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xbankx
703 Posts
I bet the same zergs that are saying "its hard to deal but no worries you can so try this and that" will start the ff imba thread as soon as MC plays a Zerg. LOL Ill even throw in the best zerg whiner line "show me a replay where a terran and a zerg of EQUAL SKILL where terran was able to beat zerg when zerg has gone broodlord infest corruptor" HINT: there is no winning that argument. Congratz to morrow, I liked him as a terran but I loved NADA more  . | ||
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Sixes
Canada1123 Posts
This matchup is still being worked on by both sides and from some recent games vikings are not the only alternative for countering broodlords, ghosts deal with infestors and consequently enable marines to kill the broodlords (or kill the corruptors that are trying to kill the vikings that are killing the broodlords). I am not sure why Nada went for thors as they do very poorly against armored air, 2 ghosts for each of those thors may have done much better (cloak, emp, then run in the marines and start sniping). I remember a thread yesterday about how emp vs mass infestor was OP. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
Such a sick baller, bad luck for Nada to meet him in the playoffs bracket. :bow | ||
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Shalaiyn
Netherlands2735 Posts
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On June 17 2011 11:41 57 Corvette wrote: Honestly, I am not going to watch the second game. I believe NaDa will win it convincingly, and will move on to the final tournament. Goodbye until tommorow. Damnit... How did I know I was going to be wrong... | ||
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antelope591
Canada820 Posts
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bootoo
United States23 Posts
Where the hell are InControl and Gretorp? Gretorp is always high and incontrol takes care of business. Thats what i paid my $25 for Cut it out NASL, cut it out | ||
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antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
On June 17 2011 21:45 bootoo wrote: Look - i never post, but what the hell is going on with NASL? i paid my $25 and i have to sit and watch mclovin and the fat kid from superbad do horrible commentary? They dont even remember what happened during the game and always sum it up completely wrong. and who the hell are they to tell these players what they should have done? according to their summary and analysis of the games they JUST WATCHED they shouldnt help with the single player let alone tell a pro what he SHOULD have done Where the hell are InControl and Gretorp? Gretorp is always high and incontrol takes care of business. Thats what i paid my $25 for Cut it out NASL, cut it out They have a email for contact. TL isn't here so we can read your rant. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On June 17 2011 13:02 tdt wrote: Yeah true, but Terran supposed to be stronger than Zerg 200 vs 200 not the other way around which seems like it w/ brood/infestor/corruptor combo. That's the difference. According to blizzard 200 vs 200 P>T>Z so of course the weaker have to harass stronger. Ultra/Crackling/Defiler with scourge support was quite able to deal with a fully operational terran in BW too. Zerg have good high tech units, they always had. But the fact that they need to have a lot of them ( 1 or 2 infestor/BL is garbage, their power grow with the number) is limitting that. Terran play vs zerg will always be a game of timings, and how to catch them. Harassing zerg to not let them get a high tech army need to be their main focus. | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2012 Posts
HOLY CREEP | ||
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
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anatem
Romania1369 Posts
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On June 17 2011 13:26 Scila wrote: That's not the point. The point is Terran doesn't even HAVE a true strong late-game composition. Good. Marines are easily massable, hellions are great for harass, dropship harass is strong, and Terran has very strong defensive options. There are plenty of ways to play TvZ, sitting on 3 bases with a tank / turret like and waiting until you're maxed is no longer one of them. I think it's better for the game that Zerg has a lategame composition that's extremely effective but also difficult to tech to. We need something that can actually punish an opponent for doing nothing and abusing the fact that we can never saturate more than 4 bases. Otherwise we get TvZ before the infestor buff, where Terran could turtle with tanks / turrets and a planetary while maxing out even if he got a big econ disadvantage, and there was literally nothing Zerg could do about it other than suicide a muta / ling / baneling army over and over. Then Terran has a 200 / 200 army you can't touch, and you just lose the game. So yea, Zerg having a viable way to punish a Terran that sits on his ass is a good thing. Also, try using some ghosts ffs. don't just theorycraft with "its difficult" and "its counterable", actually try using them in a variety of games first. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
ok "morrow stop toying with nada" so you mean when im far ahead i shouldnt go for the safe win instead attack and if it fails dont have a backup plan to guarantee my win? i would never toy with nada. hes pretty much the best terran in the world among with mvp imo (judging from gsl). hes such a nice guy online and in person aswell "zvt imba" maybe, but you cant judge it off of these games where nada play on lag and when hes very sleepy. he let me scout whats going on (saw reaper coming, saw the hellions coming, saw the 3rd cc building in the natural) on metal and his early game harasses didnt work out so i ended up ahead alot and after that the game was passive, it should look pretty much like this then. i was just answering to everything i scouted and if you let zerg know whats up theres no reason not to make only drones and right amounts of units to stop it your goal in tvz is to keep up fairly good army trades while keeping nice economy and surviving zergs rebuild counter attacks. if you keep killing gas units of zerg and force zerg to make units he wont afford 200food infestor broodlord corruptor. its like 200 food colossus voidray, sentry, high templar vs zerg. id like to see a zerg beat that head on lol so i think a keypart about tvz is not letting zerg figure out shit ur doing, then he must blindly prepare (if hes a safe player) or take risks of not building enough units but then this harass or attack might come and kill u or put u far behind if i can play tvz in nasl i would. im race picker now for about a week :p On June 17 2011 22:47 nihlon wrote: I have a feeling, "make more ghosts" is the new "make more nydas." the difference is that ghost is actually awesome vs zerg midlate and late while aggressive nydusihopehedoesntlookattheminimap is just relying on your opponent fucking up | ||
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Treemonkeys
United States2082 Posts
I'm still a little confused about the "grand finals"... it will be 10 players? Is that correct? | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
On June 17 2011 21:45 bootoo wrote: Look - i never post... Gretorp is always high and incontrol takes care of business. Thats what i paid my $25 for You paid $25 for Gretorp to always be high? | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On June 17 2011 22:48 MorroW wrote: "morrow can only baneling bust vs terran" ok "morrow stop toying with nada" so you mean when im far ahead i shouldnt go for the safe win instead attack and if it fails dont have a backup plan to guarantee my win? i would never toy with nada. hes pretty much the best terran in the world among with mvp imo (judging from gsl). hes such a nice guy online and in person aswell "zvt imba" maybe, but you cant judge it off of these games where nada play on lag and when hes very sleepy. he let me scout whats going on (saw reaper coming, saw the hellions coming, saw the 3rd cc building in the natural) on metal and his early game harasses didnt work out so i ended up ahead alot and after that the game was passive, it should look pretty much like this then. i was just answering to everything i scouted and if you let zerg know whats up theres no reason not to make only drones and right amounts of units to stop it your goal in tvz is to keep up fairly good army trades while keeping nice economy and surviving zergs rebuild counter attacks. if you keep killing gas units of zerg and force zerg to make units he wont afford 200food infestor broodlord corruptor. its like 200 food colossus voidray, sentry, high templar vs zerg. id like to see a zerg beat that head on lol so i think a keypart about tvz is not letting zerg figure out shit ur doing, then he must blindly prepare (if hes a safe player) or take risks of not building enough units but then this harass or attack might come and kill u or put u far behind if i can play tvz in nasl i would. im race picker now for about a week :p the difference is that ghost is actually awesome vs zerg midlate and late while aggressive nydusihopehedoesntlookattheminimap is just relying on your opponent fucking up morrow ft fucking dubs your a beast you deserve the grand finals | ||
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