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You have won more than anyone else, please don't call unbalance.[NASL] Playoffs Day 2 - Page 76
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superjoppe
Sweden3694 Posts
You have won more than anyone else, please don't call unbalance. | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
Not saying there is any balance issue at all. I think the game is balanced fairly well. Just wanted to put forth those questions for the terran whiners. Morrow played GREAT, don't take that away from him. Grats Morrow, see you in Ontario, live!  | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On June 17 2011 15:33 Wuster wrote: From what I recall, the hp regeneration timer on zerg units still counts down, but won't actually tick until the unit actually takes damage. So zerg units effectively take -1 damage on the first attack as long as they don't get one-shot. So two snipes on an Infestor at full health do 44 + 45 damage no matter how fast you do them. At least this is how it's been explained to me. PS - Congrats on the Tactic3D tourney (just watched the finals this afternoon). Yea he was being sarcastic. I'm quite sure he knows about zerg instant regen  Anyways, the theorycrafting in here is getting awful. No one is denying that broodlord/infestor/corruptor is hard to deal with. We are just saying stop using tank/marine/medivac/viking... it clearly is not effective at all. The most obvious place for exploration is mixing in some ghosts. I don't care if its hard to do it, it is better than rolling over to zerg late game. Once again, there are plenty of terrans incorporating ghosts. Go watch some of their games and tell me ghosts are useless. Best example is Morrow vs. Nerchio in the shoutcraft finals. Hell I will even link it: http://www.justin.tv/totalbiscuit/b/287939062 The first match starts at 54:40. Anyways, end the balance discussion. It's gone too far in this thread now. | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On June 17 2011 15:45 Koshi wrote: Wait. Are Terrans actually whining about heir race being UP? Really? Fucking REALLY? The infestor is a great unit. But it doesn't make zerg unbalanced. EDIT. I almost forgot to post Big Gratz to Mr. Morrow It's not about UP OP. Everyone knows Terran is deadly with timing attacks and dominates, ladders, touneys, etc but this late matchup tilts the otherway. One can argue balance at different points in game without saying race is UP. Take for example protoss when zealots were 33 seconds and nothing could hold a proxy 2 gate. Didnt mean protoss was OP but that point in time was and needed fixing. | ||
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
 Well played | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10383 Posts
I'm sad nada lost though, would have loved to see nada vs july again xD | ||
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Art_of_Kill
Zaire1232 Posts
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
I'll tune in tonight to watch the matches! | ||
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Eeevil
Netherlands359 Posts
5Z base vs 3T base is imba. Morrow took an economic advantage and he played out his advantage perfectly. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
On June 17 2011 18:47 Probe1 wrote: I fell asleep before this game and it's killing me not to know what happened to cause this ire against brood lord infestor. Did NaDa not make enough ghosts? Try didn't make one the entire game, and also let MorroW have over a 30 drone lead in the mid game and build up to 100 drones late game. His harass was poorly executed and did absolutely nothing and people wonder why the composition was so strong against him. People don't like seeing their race lose. So whine about balance, especially because David Kim mentioned it in an interview. My god do i wish he never mentioned anything now because i just know i'm gonna get assholes on the ladder proclaiming it as some sort of excuse on the ladder for losing. He also said in the same interview that they don't like making these sort of changes because people learn new things and what was once an unbeatable army can easily change as people learn new things themselves to counter it. They're also convinced it will be changed soon too, despite him saying they'll most likely be no more balance patches until HotS is released and that the game seems pretty well balanced right now. For example the Protoss death ball against Zerg. Zerg have learnt that they have to either split it up, get something different to roach hydra corrupter, never let them get to that stage or harass to beat it. Terran's for months told Zerg to use infestors, a lot of Zergs said they'd tried them, didn't work bla bla bla because they'd not found a good way to use them, couldn't afford the gas because then they can't have as many muta's or can't have banelings anymore and didn't know how many to get tbh. With Zerg's expanding a lot quicker now than previously though, their 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th gas come so much quicker. So getting a bigger amount of infestors and skipping muta tech has become viable. But now it's made the Terran's feel like they're the weaker race. So Zerg's tell them what to do to beat it. What they've seen from some players actually effectively beat the composition. But Terran's just theory craft and refuse to believe it can work, and completely dismiss the examples of people who use it. A bit like Zerg did in the past. When really, it's just their turn to learn how to develop their game, just like the other races have had to for months. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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DoubleB
Germany870 Posts
I am really exicted to see Nada vs Morrow and then (for me unbelievable) Morrow wins Gonna be a good day, hehe | ||
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
. The noooooooo button has been pressed more than once today. | ||
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em0rej007
France36 Posts
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