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Dac
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada538 Posts
June 17 2011 14:24 GMT
#1541
On June 17 2011 22:48 MorroW wrote:
"morrow can only baneling bust vs terran"
ok

"morrow stop toying with nada"
so you mean when im far ahead i shouldnt go for the safe win instead attack and if it fails dont have a backup plan to guarantee my win?

i would never toy with nada. hes pretty much the best terran in the world among with mvp imo (judging from gsl). hes such a nice guy online and in person aswell

"zvt imba"
maybe, but you cant judge it off of these games where nada play on lag and when hes very sleepy. he let me scout whats going on (saw reaper coming, saw the hellions coming, saw the 3rd cc building in the natural) on metal and his early game harasses didnt work out so i ended up ahead alot and after that the game was passive, it should look pretty much like this then. i was just answering to everything i scouted and if you let zerg know whats up theres no reason not to make only drones and right amounts of units to stop it

your goal in tvz is to keep up fairly good army trades while keeping nice economy and surviving zergs rebuild counter attacks. if you keep killing gas units of zerg and force zerg to make units he wont afford 200food infestor broodlord corruptor. its like 200 food colossus voidray, sentry, high templar vs zerg. id like to see a zerg beat that head on lol

so i think a keypart about tvz is not letting zerg figure out shit ur doing, then he must blindly prepare (if hes a safe player) or take risks of not building enough units but then this harass or attack might come and kill u or put u far behind

if i can play tvz in nasl i would. im race picker now for about a week :p


Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 22:47 nihlon wrote:
I have a feeling, "make more ghosts" is the new "make more nydas."


the difference is that ghost is actually awesome vs zerg midlate and late while aggressive nydusihopehedoesntlookattheminimap is just relying on your opponent fucking up


:O you are going to race pick T against Z? are you worried about July's crazy micro in ZvZ ;P?

GL! you are awesome.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
June 17 2011 14:26 GMT
#1542
All of these people who are saying terran has no late game options, have you ever seen a proper pure mech vs Zerg?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Dandy_Moustachu
Profile Joined July 2010
France422 Posts
June 17 2011 14:27 GMT
#1543
if :
"As an important note the PDD *does* stop broodlings fired from broodlords"
is true,

why aren't they used ?
Pif Paf Pouf
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
June 17 2011 14:42 GMT
#1544
On June 17 2011 12:13 Panzamelano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 12:12 antilyon wrote:
On June 17 2011 12:10 Ahelvin wrote:
80 drones...

How Morrow has been under the radar recently? He is like a macro beast...

Morrow always was a very macro oriented player, but most of people just got the impression that he was a cheeser from his match against IdrA at IEM finals and vs Jinro on TSL3.


or from when he all-ined every game when he played terran maybe.


Except HE DIDN'T all-in every game as a terran. Far from it actually. The person you quoted is correct actually, most people got that impression from IEM where he used reapers like a mad man and even that was more abusing the game rather than all-inning (even if reaper harass failed terrans was not in that bad of a position).
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 14:51:11
June 17 2011 14:46 GMT
#1545
Thank you for stating your opinions MorroW, that was great to see what you thought.


Oh yeah, and PDD does not stop broodlings. That was patched .
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
June 17 2011 14:50 GMT
#1546
Morrow you played amazing vs Nada. No need to explain your decision making during the games as a lot of the ppl are sad/angry that Nada lost.
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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
June 17 2011 14:52 GMT
#1547
On June 17 2011 22:48 MorroW wrote:


Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 22:47 nihlon wrote:
I have a feeling, "make more ghosts" is the new "make more nydas."


the difference is that ghost is actually awesome vs zerg midlate and late while aggressive nydusihopehedoesntlookattheminimap is just relying on your opponent fucking up


You are probably right, i didn't mean for it to sound like I equate the two things. I just find it somewhat funny that people so many people feel the need to tell terrans (or zerg or protoss) how to play when they don't play terran themselves. Be it ghosts/infestors/whatever it just irks me a bit, at least when people provide with so little context.

On June 17 2011 23:27 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:
if :
"As an important note the PDD *does* stop broodlings fired from broodlords"
is true,

why aren't they used ?


I think that was patched in the last patch.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
June 17 2011 14:52 GMT
#1548
On June 17 2011 23:27 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:
if :
"As an important note the PDD *does* stop broodlings fired from broodlords"
is true,

why aren't they used ?


I believe they patched it not 100% sure though.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
June 17 2011 14:52 GMT
#1549
On June 17 2011 23:52 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 23:27 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:
if :
"As an important note the PDD *does* stop broodlings fired from broodlords"
is true,

why aren't they used ?


I believe they patched it not 100% sure though.


And I'd rather have 2 ghosts for that 200 gas ><
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Daimai
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden762 Posts
June 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#1550
On June 17 2011 15:45 Koshi wrote:
Wait. Are Terrans actually whining about heir race being UP? Really? Fucking REALLY?
The infestor is a great unit. But it doesn't make zerg unbalanced.


EDIT. I almost forgot to post Big Gratz to Mr. Morrow


Yes, it does.
To pray is to accept defeat.
toadyy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom179 Posts
June 17 2011 14:58 GMT
#1551
On June 17 2011 23:26 GGzerG wrote:
All of these people who are saying terran has no late game options, have you ever seen a proper pure mech vs Zerg?

Its because Terran really dont, Infestor Broodlord Ling is way too strong. Infestors counter any bio or vikings you manage to mass, they can also neural your big hitters like Thors. Broodlords shit all over mech everyone knows that. When broodlords are on the map you instantly lose your position with tanks and then he can just a move a handful of zerglings in and start fucking you up. Because you cant seige him or your tanks die and if you try and engage the Broodlords you get fungaled before you reach them.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
June 17 2011 15:05 GMT
#1552
On June 17 2011 23:56 Daimai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 15:45 Koshi wrote:
Wait. Are Terrans actually whining about heir race being UP? Really? Fucking REALLY?
The infestor is a great unit. But it doesn't make zerg unbalanced.


EDIT. I almost forgot to post Big Gratz to Mr. Morrow


Yes, it does.

Use ghosts? A top Zerg player who now race picks TvZ (therefore knowing about both sides of the matchup) is heavily endorsing the use of ghosts. Maybe there's something to it
Dodge arrows
Daimai
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden762 Posts
June 17 2011 15:12 GMT
#1553
On June 18 2011 00:05 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 23:56 Daimai wrote:
On June 17 2011 15:45 Koshi wrote:
Wait. Are Terrans actually whining about heir race being UP? Really? Fucking REALLY?
The infestor is a great unit. But it doesn't make zerg unbalanced.


EDIT. I almost forgot to post Big Gratz to Mr. Morrow


Yes, it does.

Use ghosts? A top Zerg player who now race picks TvZ (therefore knowing about both sides of the matchup) is heavily endorsing the use of ghosts. Maybe there's something to it



Oh I am a protoss player, dont mind me.
To pray is to accept defeat.
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
June 17 2011 15:14 GMT
#1554
Congratulations to MorroW :D
Very solid~
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
June 17 2011 15:31 GMT
#1555
This whole NASL thing is very confusing. Does this mean that Nada is out of the ro16 and out of NASL for good? And Idra as well??
Marines > everything
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
June 17 2011 15:33 GMT
#1556
On June 18 2011 00:31 vnlegend wrote:
This whole NASL thing is very confusing. Does this mean that Nada is out of the ro16 and out of NASL for good? And Idra as well??

Yep, they're both out till next season now.
Dodge arrows
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
June 17 2011 15:36 GMT
#1557
Always enjoy watching Morrow slap the faces of all the haters, durrrrrrrrrr all he ever does i bling busts. If anything he has proved to the people that he is capable of beating the top players out there in a straight up game.

Well done, Morrow! good luck in the future!!
We make signature, then defense it.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
June 17 2011 15:42 GMT
#1558
On June 17 2011 23:46 Probe1 wrote:
Thank you for stating your opinions MorroW, that was great to see what you thought.


Oh yeah, and PDD does not stop broodlings. That was patched .

Unfortunately. I thought it makes a lot of sense
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
June 17 2011 15:49 GMT
#1559
On June 17 2011 23:26 GGzerG wrote:
All of these people who are saying terran has no late game options, have you ever seen a proper pure mech vs Zerg?


Have you heard of n. parasite? Even Idra said pure mech sucks versus zerg cause you due to mutas in large numbers since they magic box your thors, you die to neutral parasite and you ust die to mass roaches if you siege too slow.

xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
June 17 2011 15:51 GMT
#1560
On June 17 2011 22:48 MorroW wrote:
"morrow can only baneling bust vs terran"
ok

"morrow stop toying with nada"
so you mean when im far ahead i shouldnt go for the safe win instead attack and if it fails dont have a backup plan to guarantee my win?

i would never toy with nada. hes pretty much the best terran in the world among with mvp imo (judging from gsl). hes such a nice guy online and in person aswell

"zvt imba"
maybe, but you cant judge it off of these games where nada play on lag and when hes very sleepy. he let me scout whats going on (saw reaper coming, saw the hellions coming, saw the 3rd cc building in the natural) on metal and his early game harasses didnt work out so i ended up ahead alot and after that the game was passive, it should look pretty much like this then. i was just answering to everything i scouted and if you let zerg know whats up theres no reason not to make only drones and right amounts of units to stop it

your goal in tvz is to keep up fairly good army trades while keeping nice economy and surviving zergs rebuild counter attacks. if you keep killing gas units of zerg and force zerg to make units he wont afford 200food infestor broodlord corruptor. its like 200 food colossus voidray, sentry, high templar vs zerg. id like to see a zerg beat that head on lol

so i think a keypart about tvz is not letting zerg figure out shit ur doing, then he must blindly prepare (if hes a safe player) or take risks of not building enough units but then this harass or attack might come and kill u or put u far behind

if i can play tvz in nasl i would. im race picker now for about a week :p


Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 22:47 nihlon wrote:
I have a feeling, "make more ghosts" is the new "make more nydas."


the difference is that ghost is actually awesome vs zerg midlate and late while aggressive nydusihopehedoesntlookattheminimap is just relying on your opponent fucking up



Why didn't you stay as terran? Why did you have to go to the dark side.....
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