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quiet noise
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and i usualy dont like to bash casters. they really sound like they dont really like starcraft 2 at heart. or they are just afraid of showing emotions | ||
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NickelStarCraft
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
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doihy
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akalarry
United States1978 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:33 TheHova wrote: You compliment your army with the ghosts. How is that so hard to do? Cloaked ghosts are extremely difficult to deal with as a Zerg. show me a replay of effective use of cloaked ghosts, unless you're just theorycrafting of course | ||
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:29 StarscreamG1 wrote: I don't give a sh** cause I'm protoss, but the last times I saw Terrans win TvZ was with bunker push... Really hard matchup. Don't watch a lot then do you? MLG finals... | ||
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Chainfire99
Canada474 Posts
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proxY_
United States1561 Posts
I generally agree with that, Dimaga doesn't seem to play in an as many of these tournaments but I think hes definitely up there skill wise particularly going off how he played in Korea during the world championships. I'd probably throw Ret and Sheth in the conversation too though I wouldn't say that they're definitely above idrA. Idra isn't particularly adept at figuring out new innovative strategies, he has absolutely top tier mechanics but his game sense, unit control, and honestly mental stability just aren't at a level where you can say that hes the best. | ||
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GwSC
United States1997 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:31 drox22 wrote: Why is it so hard to understand that if you go for mass ghosts you will just get rolled by ling baneling later on? You don't need to mass Ghosts to negate Infestors, which is the main idea. They also do well sniping broodlords. On top of that, without fungals Vikings are far more effective against broods+corruptors. Also, Morrow DID NOT need Brood Infestor to win that. He easily could have simply massed banelings/zerglings at that point, he was so far ahead. | ||
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:32 Azarkon wrote: Sen needs to learn from Morrow or Dimaga in ZvT. Morrow needs to learn from Dimaga or Sen in ZvZ. Dimaga needs to learn from Sen or Morrow in ZvP. Then they'll all be unstoppable power houses. As for Idra, he seems to have other priorities in life at the moment, so it's really up to him whether he wants to try to conquer his weaknesses or not. As for Nerchio, unfortunately he doesn't play in many big tournaments, as someone above said, but I think he's definitely an excellent player and up there in terms of foreigner Zergs. Should also mention Vibe, an up-and-coming NA Zerg, as well as Sheth, Slush, etc. for runner ups. Idra's weakness is being on an American team and only being able to practice regular on the Na ladder =/ | ||
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:29 mikyaJ wrote: No he doesn't He's like Kas, no big tournaments yet. What did Sen and Dimaga do in big tournaments? Nerchio did win bigger online tournaments (Dailymotion, Shoutcraft), he has not played LANs yet - afaik. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:34 quiet noise wrote: Im begging to god that moletrap+diggity wont cast any other series tbh and i usualy dont like to bash casters.Meh, I think they did a good job, and I typically don't like Moletrap... but that's fine that you have your own opinion since you're not being a dick about it.  | ||
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DeltruS
Canada2214 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:27 DoomsVille wrote: I'm starting to feel like IdrA is being left behind in the metagame. Morrow looks stronger than him in ZvP and ZvT. The only matchup that IdrA seems to have an advantage over him is in ZvZ. A few months ago IdrA was stronger in all matchups. He's starting to be slip a fair bit. I'm starting to think Morrow is the best foreigner zerg. Wrong use of metagame. MorroW has his own ZvP style that he made personally, along with his team. I imagine the same thing can be said with his ZvT style. MorroW is even better at ZvT because he used to be terran. IdrA isn't behind compared to everyone else, MorroW is just ahead. | ||
Mordiford
4448 Posts
David Kim said that Blizzard is looking at Brood Lord/Infestor late game to see if it's overpowered right now, if they find that it is, it'll get nerfed, otherwise Terrans will find a way to deal with it. | ||
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SuperStyle
United States976 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:25 blade55555 wrote: I can't wait till terrans start using ghosts and then realize how good they are lol. They already are on the korean server, one day you'll see but that day isn't today as if you think nada played those macro games good I would disagree, he was way to passive, let morrow take like 3 bases and did 0 pressure. Why should the terran be the one that has to be aggressive and not let zerg get 3 bases, why shouldnt the zerg be the one that is afraid of terran late game. Why shouldnt zerg need to be aggressive and not let terran get 3 bases, thats the point in this game. The better player should win the game and not "you didnt pressure zerg early game and now you will get roflstomped" because there is no "you didnt pressure the terran early game and now you will get roflstomped" The thing is that terran NEEDS to do early damage in order to stay equal to the zerg, while zerg on the other hand will always be ahead of the terran and doesnt need to do early damage to terran to be or stay ahead. I know that Morrow is a better player and i did expect that if he passes Socke that he would 2-0 Nada, its just that late game terran cant win against the zerg, only zerg can lose to terran by their own mistakes. | ||
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akalarry
United States1978 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:34 Mailing wrote: Idra's weakness is being on an American team and only being able to practice regular on the Na ladder =/ that's his weakness? LOL.... yah ok.. | ||
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drox22
129 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:33 Cryhavoc wrote: he just needed 2 ghosts to emp whole infestors what mass ghost are you talking about And the broodlords are going to magically explode or what? | ||
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Chainfire99
Canada474 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:34 doihy wrote: TBH I've never seen a terran win against a late game zerg unless they are miles ahead (ogs top vs line). Even SlayersMMA or bomber cannot beat the late game zerg. Sure, MMA doesn't let you get to lategame, but the mentality that you have to kill the zerg before late game is design flaw. If it's a design flaw then I see no fix for it. Zerg is the passive/reactive race (for the most part), it makes sense that their late game army is effective. | ||
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:32 cyclone25 wrote: http://www.justin.tv/totalbiscuit/b/287939062 Go to 0:55:00 and see how nicely MorroW plays TvZ even if he's been practicing it for a few days only. Seriously what's with all this Terran QQ? Are you guys unhappy that only 6 terrans made it to top 8 in GSL? MorroW has ahead 3 bases vs NaDa, you can't complain about Broodlords/Infestors in this situation. L2p please and stop QQing. lol morrow killing his own composition | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
I really would have liked to see Ravens in the games, though. Seeker Missiles are good, no? It would probably have been incredibly difficult to get them in the situation he was in, but I feel like his overall composition from the get-go wasn't the greatest. His Marine/Tank army looked SO vulnerable at all stages of the game, and he did absolutely no damage in comparison to what he needed. Oh well. Still rooting for him :D | ||
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