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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 04 2011 01:19 GMT
#1581
On June 04 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:16 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:15 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:14 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:13 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:12 Drazerk wrote:
Game One has restarted

In the Bottom right corner position is Incontrol

While located in the bottom left is Losira


2:00

Pool first then gas for losira

Forge from incontrol with a pylon at losira's natural


3:30

2 cannons in Losira's natural with one in his own

Incontrol then blocks the Third base


4:30

Losira has taken the natural at the top left position while incontrol has taken his natural


6:40

Losira takes a third base at his natural after killing the cannon contain


7:10

Lings get into incontrol's main and starts to attack probes


9:00

Incontrol cleans the attack up

Roach warren now on the way


10:00

Twilight council on the way for Incontrol along with +1 armour

Roaches and +1 melee for losira with a in base hatch
Criptos
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada128 Posts
June 04 2011 01:19 GMT
#1582
Normally I don't bitch about the lack of lan, but watching lag issues pop up at nearly every MLG, TSL3 Finals, and many other tournaments. It's starting to be a lil' too much for me to "not care". I understand they did it for pirating purposes (at least one of the major reasons). But honestly, imho, the vast majority of players that are going to purchase and play SC2 have already bought it. I

If blizz truly wants to support E-sports it's time to step it up. Could a LAN / Tournament edition not work, and just release it to established teams / tournaments.
Yeah, They call me the hiphop-potamus My lyrics are bottomless.
PSA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 01:20:39
June 04 2011 01:19 GMT
#1583
Come on inC, you got this buddy!

Drazerk you are a champ for the LR you have been doing. You rock dude!
Huge fan of EG! Go IdrA, Huk, Puma, and all others. GO ASU SUN DEVILS!
FlyingZergling
Profile Joined December 2010
81 Posts
June 04 2011 01:20 GMT
#1584
On June 04 2011 10:10 Vimsey wrote:
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On June 04 2011 10:00 Klogon wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:55 Fubi wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:42 FlyingZergling wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:37 Fubi wrote:
How does the extended series rule even remotely make any sense?

It's to ensure that a player actually wins more than the other player before he gets past them. Observe.

Idra-MC 2-0. [Bo3]
Idra has won twice.

If they meet again later and have another Bo3:
Idra-MC 2-0. [Bo3]
Idra-MC 4-0 total
Idra has won four times.

Nothing wrong there. But what if MC wins the second time?

Idra-MC 0-2. [Bo3]
Idra-MC 2-2 total
Idra has won twice and MC has won twice. Wait, they're even. Why is MC advancing?

See the logic?

Ok, now do it with the extended series rule.
Idra-MC 2-0. [Bo3]
Idra has won twice.

Idra-MC 2-0. [Bo7 Idra 2-0+]
Idra-MC 4-0 total
Idra has won four times. Ok.

And again, what happens if MC starts winning in the best of 7?

Idra-MC 2-0. [Bo7 Idra 2-0+]
Idra-MC 2-4 total
Idra has won two times. MC has won 4 times. MC won more, so he deserves to advance.

But the logic would only make sense if the whole tournament encompasses these two players. In reality you must consider the tournament as a whole.

If player A beats player B, player A is rewarded by advancing, player B is punished by being put into the loser's bracket. Player B won 0 set, lost 1, Player A won 1 set, lost 0 at this point. They are already rewarded and punished accordingly to their result at this point.

Now, if player A loses to player C in the winner's bracket, player A is punished by being put into the loser's. If player B advances in the losers to meet player A, they are now both on even grounds. Player A has 1 win 1 loss, player B has 1 win 1 loss. Why should player A get an advantage over player B at this point?


Very well put. Although the system is flawed, hopefully everything else runs smoothly.
I dont like extended series but this example player C could be the best player of the tournament and Player A has already beaten player B so that is not the same to me. The problem I have with it is where when you get to the final stages and often a loser is in the group stage or the semi final of the winners bracket. I would like a full series for the latter rounds.


Right. The logic isn't infalliable. It's simply attempting to pre-empt "who the better player" is. If A proved himself better than B a day ago, there's not much that could have changed in that time. It wouldn't be as entertaining to watch A win 4 more times. That's also one of the lines of logic.

If in a nonextended series A and B fight and go 2-0, and then they fight later and go 4-0, A had to win 6 games. If in that same universe A and B went 2-0 at first but then later fought and went 0-4, B only had to win 4 times. You see, B could have just thrown his games against A and it wouldn't have mattered. Using that logic, there's no reason for them to fight harder other than the threat of elimination faster later. If they fight their hardest, A still has to have won 6 games overall and B still has to have won 4 games overall. That's not fair- that almost punishes A for winning.

If you use the extended series logic, when A and B meet later A either wins twice and has won 4 times overall, or B wins 4 times and has won 4 times overall.
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
June 04 2011 01:20 GMT
#1585
I had to restart my internet so I was gone for 15 min, when I left it was the first game and intcontrol ahd blocked the bottoms of the zergs ramp with cannons. now that I am back it seems like time has stood still but they are in different spots... at the top is says the series is 0-0?
Lolsss
Profile Joined April 2011
England106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 01:22:08
June 04 2011 01:20 GMT
#1586
On June 04 2011 10:13 Malstriks wrote:
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On June 04 2011 10:12 Lolsss wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:10 fatkid wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:10 Lolsss wrote:
If ur keyboard breaks u shouldnt get a restart u should get a d/q.

Your keyboard, your problem. makes no sense :/


Seriously ?

A player can't magically repair his keyboard.


Why is it the opponents problem if u bring a shit keyboard? :/


a keyboard is like a tennis racquet. you don't just lose a tennis match if you break a racquet, you replace it.


lol?

if we are comparing it to sports...?

a keyboard is closer to a bmx - if u break it u lose lol


and even if it was like tennis - if u break ur raquet u lose the point but certainly dont restart the set... ?
mpf189
Profile Joined March 2011
332 Posts
June 04 2011 01:20 GMT
#1587
oh man, inctrol should have seen that coming...
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
June 04 2011 01:20 GMT
#1588
2 Things:

1) if that spot for incontrol was able to get a unit in, why isn't that ledge transparent?
2) Why do you restart the game for a keyboard problem? He isn't using USB?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 04 2011 01:20 GMT
#1589
On June 04 2011 10:19 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:16 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:15 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:14 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:13 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:12 Drazerk wrote:
Game One has restarted

In the Bottom right corner position is Incontrol

While located in the bottom left is Losira


2:00

Pool first then gas for losira

Forge from incontrol with a pylon at losira's natural


3:30

2 cannons in Losira's natural with one in his own

Incontrol then blocks the Third base


4:30

Losira has taken the natural at the top left position while incontrol has taken his natural


6:40

Losira takes a third base at his natural after killing the cannon contain


7:10

Lings get into incontrol's main and starts to attack probes


9:00

Incontrol cleans the attack up

Roach warren now on the way


10:00

Twilight council on the way for Incontrol along with +1 armour

Roaches and +1 melee for losira with a in base hatch



12:00

Incontrol is leaving a huge gap in incontrol's wall as he moves out

lings back into his base
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
June 04 2011 01:20 GMT
#1590
Oh no he loses the robo...
o choro é livre
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
June 04 2011 01:21 GMT
#1591
...Damn INcontrol...
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
June 04 2011 01:21 GMT
#1592
On June 04 2011 10:18 DystopiaX wrote:
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On June 04 2011 10:17 teamsolid wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:11 DystopiaX wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:09 Sceptor87 wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:58 fatkid wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:56 Jayrod wrote:
On June 04 2011 09:54 Sceptor87 wrote:
This is the second time at MLG alone that BNet has decided to take a shit.

Hey Blizzard, thanks for the fantastic game that you obviously have no fucking idea with what you're doing.

Why are you even watching?


Because he wants to WATCH the game but is frustrated by the lack of LAN support?
Bingo.

There is no reason why, at this point in the lifespan of the game, they couldn't implement LAN. Especially when Blizzard is trying to get aboard the "e-Sports" train. The whole piracy argument is stupid. People will still pirate the game if they want, which is why last year SC2 had something like 3 million illegal downloads.

At this point it's either ignorance or sloth on their end, there is no other reason.

It makes piracy a hell of a lot harder though cause you'd still need to get/fake a bnet account. That 3mil could be a lot more.

Yea, but that's Activision bullshit type thinking. BW and War3 did just fine with LAN mode being available.

And were still pirated millions of times.


Irrelevant, they both had two of the largest followings around the world. The implementation of LAN didn't lead to the pirating of those games, the games themselves did. They wouldn't have done any better without LAN, in fact they would've done worth because tournaments would have less credibility. If BW and WC3 hadn't had such followings (thanks to LAN) than SC2 wouldn't be doing NEARLY as well as it is now.
Hi.
Crisco
Profile Joined March 2011
1170 Posts
June 04 2011 01:21 GMT
#1593
losira is amazing
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 04 2011 01:21 GMT
#1594
Oh this is hard to watch.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
June 04 2011 01:21 GMT
#1595
Losira getting so much value out of his units.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 04 2011 01:21 GMT
#1596
On June 04 2011 10:20 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 10:19 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:18 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:16 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:15 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:14 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:13 Drazerk wrote:
On June 04 2011 10:12 Drazerk wrote:
Game One has restarted

In the Bottom right corner position is Incontrol

While located in the bottom left is Losira


2:00

Pool first then gas for losira

Forge from incontrol with a pylon at losira's natural


3:30

2 cannons in Losira's natural with one in his own

Incontrol then blocks the Third base


4:30

Losira has taken the natural at the top left position while incontrol has taken his natural


6:40

Losira takes a third base at his natural after killing the cannon contain


7:10

Lings get into incontrol's main and starts to attack probes


9:00

Incontrol cleans the attack up

Roach warren now on the way


10:00

Twilight council on the way for Incontrol along with +1 armour

Roaches and +1 melee for losira with a in base hatch



12:00

Incontrol is leaving a huge gap in incontrol's wall as he moves out

lings back into his base


13:30

Incontrol cleans the attack but loses the robo

Hydras on the way for Losira
tymt
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden293 Posts
June 04 2011 01:22 GMT
#1597
wheat blow your nose!
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
June 04 2011 01:22 GMT
#1598
,Losira is going to clean incontrol up.

As it should be!
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
June 04 2011 01:22 GMT
#1599
The irony:

MLG's stream is up and running smoothly so they can emphasize how much we wish Blizzard had put in LAN.
Harrow
Profile Joined November 2010
United States245 Posts
June 04 2011 01:22 GMT
#1600
Anyone else think the player cams look like Dragoon portraits from BW?
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