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Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
May 27 2011 03:34 GMT
#721
Shut it, Cruncher haters=Idra fanboys =)

It isn't like Idra is a creative player who comes up with new strategies. He is a freaking study cow that you see in every college, will study the book all the time, with little brain. Not to say Cruncher is anything special, but all this Cruncher hate and Idra love is over the top.

My God, how can words of a player can change perspective of so many people.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 27 2011 03:34 GMT
#722
On May 27 2011 12:32 quiet noise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 12:31 travis wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:28 quiet noise wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:27 travis wrote:
cruncher's play is hilarious

he is doing a pretty solid heavy macro build... i dont really think you can hate on that without looking like a hypocrit. kinda slow to watch though!


I wasn't hating on it. I was saying it's a hilarious way to play. I actually like that style, it's how I mostly played in sc1(though that kind of style was so much more fun in sc1...)

i suspect that cruncher has very poor multitasking, wich is why he he does these passive turtlemacro into timing push builds. reminds me of me, lol.


I had pretty bad multitasking as far as sc1 players went too
pretty slow in general actually
quiet noise
Profile Joined May 2011
599 Posts
May 27 2011 03:34 GMT
#723
On May 27 2011 12:33 jdseemoreglass wrote:
So is it safe to say that Protoss can force Zerg to be in the position of having to basically all in and try to end the game quickly now? I mean that seems like the only option. Is all-in drop play simply the only option? So then it's a matter of how well protoss can defend an all in attack?

I mean I hear mrbitter criticizing momans passivity and this is the only way I can interpret what he is saying. What are the other options left to Zerg against a defensive macroing toss?

Mid game mutalisk-transitions destroy this robo based macro build.
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
May 27 2011 03:34 GMT
#724
Cruncher please win to save my LB.
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
May 27 2011 03:34 GMT
#725
On May 27 2011 12:32 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 12:30 Monolithic- wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:28 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:25 Dexington wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:22 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:21 Monolithic- wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:19 L3g3nd_ wrote:
The cruncher bashing in this thread is disgusting, TL needs to grow up

I don't see how it's disgusting. He's an uninspiring and boring player to watch.

no, everyones just mad that he outplayed IdrA and then Mondragon, so they hate him because of it. its childish and immature


No, it's because he plays the most boring style that banks on a single attack. Whether that involves a 4gate or cheese or his 3 base turtle to death ball strategy (which are the only three strats he has), the game ends one way or another based on his one attack.

Or, as Moman showed, you can kill him before he gets that chance.

if it works, why wouldnt you do it?

Because its basically using a crutch. You don't have to be a good player to execute those strategies. They won't work forever.

Then how come we dont see protoss players dominating everything? GSL protoss is still the least represented race.


because zerg have learnt how to play the matchup and dont let them get to the deathball now. Moman was just playing bad and a bad style like bitter said.

Like that style he did was the very beggining of the roach/hydra/corrupter era. Even at the end of it people learnt u had to attack with burrowed roaches when the 3rd was going up(hard to on that map) or drop
Monolithic-
Profile Joined February 2011
United States83 Posts
May 27 2011 03:34 GMT
#726
On May 27 2011 12:32 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 12:30 Monolithic- wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:28 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:25 Dexington wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:22 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:21 Monolithic- wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:19 L3g3nd_ wrote:
The cruncher bashing in this thread is disgusting, TL needs to grow up

I don't see how it's disgusting. He's an uninspiring and boring player to watch.

no, everyones just mad that he outplayed IdrA and then Mondragon, so they hate him because of it. its childish and immature


No, it's because he plays the most boring style that banks on a single attack. Whether that involves a 4gate or cheese or his 3 base turtle to death ball strategy (which are the only three strats he has), the game ends one way or another based on his one attack.

Or, as Moman showed, you can kill him before he gets that chance.

if it works, why wouldnt you do it?

Because its basically using a crutch. You don't have to be a good player to execute those strategies. They won't work forever.

Then how come we dont see protoss players dominating everything? GSL protoss is still the least represented race.

Your blind fanboyism is compromising your brain functioning. Protoss players WERE dominating everything and then zerg players discovered ways to beat the death ball. CrunCher is playing an old abusive style that doesn't work against his betters.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 27 2011 03:34 GMT
#727
On May 27 2011 12:30 Tewks44 wrote:
Ok, Hate CrunCher or not, he flat out outplayed Moman that game, and if you blame it on the "OP protoss deathball" you must have missed a lot of key points in the game


this. the naivity in this thread is unbelievable.
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TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
May 27 2011 03:34 GMT
#728
Mr Bitter is completely right with these rants, Zergs who still play this style deserve to lose. Even if it is to a 200/200 deathball A move.
mholden02
Profile Joined October 2010
387 Posts
May 27 2011 03:35 GMT
#729
Mr Bitter is excellent at casting. He's much better than both InControl and Gretorp. NASL should hire him.
Redman
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada88 Posts
May 27 2011 03:35 GMT
#730
I hope we get to the point where games dont end on one push or battle.
SC2 just gets depressing after a while.
Its a good day to expo
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
May 27 2011 03:35 GMT
#731
While I don't enjoy crunchers turtling style, I sure do hope he wins. Gotta make up for white-ra losing for my liquibets.
jackdaleaper
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines1216 Posts
May 27 2011 03:36 GMT
#732
On May 27 2011 12:33 jdseemoreglass wrote:
I mean I hear mrbitter criticizing momans passivity and this is the only way I can interpret what he is saying. What are the other options left to Zerg against a defensive macroing toss?


Multi-prong drops, nydus, getting a more cost efficient compo, even trading armies would have been better since he had the better economy early game.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
May 27 2011 03:36 GMT
#733
Incoming Roach/Ling
Jtn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
444 Posts
May 27 2011 03:36 GMT
#734
Loving the Mr.Bitter commentary, did he ever get a chance to cast with Incontrol?
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
May 27 2011 03:36 GMT
#735
On May 27 2011 12:35 DoomsVille wrote:
While I don't enjoy crunchers turtling style, I sure do hope he wins. Gotta make up for white-ra losing for my liquibets.


im 1-2 right now...moman better win!
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
May 27 2011 03:36 GMT
#736
On May 27 2011 12:33 jdseemoreglass wrote:
So is it safe to say that Protoss can force Zerg to be in the position of having to basically all in and try to end the game quickly now? I mean that seems like the only option. Is all-in drop play simply the only option? So then it's a matter of how well protoss can defend an all in attack?

I mean I hear mrbitter criticizing momans passivity and this is the only way I can interpret what he is saying. What are the other options left to Zerg against a defensive macroing toss?


Don't max out on roaches and hydras versus an army that costs twice as much? Actually attack when you see your opponent throwing up a third when he has four gates? He criticized Moman's passivity because he sat there and let Cruncher go to four base protoss versus four base zerg before taking a couple more useless bases.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
May 27 2011 03:37 GMT
#737
On May 27 2011 12:34 Xxavi wrote:
Shut it, Cruncher haters=Idra fanboys =)

It isn't like Idra is a creative player who comes up with new strategies. He is a freaking study cow that you see in every college, will study the book all the time, with little brain. Not to say Cruncher is anything special, but all this Cruncher hate and Idra love is over the top.

My God, how can words of a player can change perspective of so many people.


Can you read the last few pages? Cruncher haters = people who like exciting games. Cruncher has yet to be involved in one.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
May 27 2011 03:37 GMT
#738
On May 27 2011 12:34 Xxavi wrote:
Shut it, Cruncher haters=Idra fanboys =)

It isn't like Idra is a creative player who comes up with new strategies. He is a freaking study cow that you see in every college, will study the book all the time, with little brain. Not to say Cruncher is anything special, but all this Cruncher hate and Idra love is over the top.

My God, how can words of a player can change perspective of so many people.


I think you overestimate IdrA's influence on the community.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
quiet noise
Profile Joined May 2011
599 Posts
May 27 2011 03:37 GMT
#739
On May 27 2011 12:34 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 12:32 quiet noise wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:31 travis wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:28 quiet noise wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:27 travis wrote:
cruncher's play is hilarious

he is doing a pretty solid heavy macro build... i dont really think you can hate on that without looking like a hypocrit. kinda slow to watch though!


I wasn't hating on it. I was saying it's a hilarious way to play. I actually like that style, it's how I mostly played in sc1(though that kind of style was so much more fun in sc1...)

i suspect that cruncher has very poor multitasking, wich is why he he does these passive turtlemacro into timing push builds. reminds me of me, lol.


I had pretty bad multitasking as far as sc1 players went too
pretty slow in general actually

When i watch cruncher i play i always get the "i could do that too" feeling. does anyone know what his APM is like?
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 03:38:05
May 27 2011 03:37 GMT
#740
wait wait wait Whitera lost against Incontrol in a bo3? wow... I got a lot of respect for Incontrol and whitera but this is... I'm speechless.
I guess either PvP is a joke, either I should start practicing seriously cause I may have a shot at winning something
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