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loving it
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada271 Posts
May 27 2011 03:31 GMT
#701
On May 27 2011 12:30 pikaaarrr :3 wrote:
Who's the not-Gretorp commentator?

Mr Bitter. He's known for his zerg stream and his 12 weeks with the pros program.
Stay gold.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 03:32:22
May 27 2011 03:31 GMT
#702
On May 27 2011 12:30 Tewks44 wrote:
Ok, Hate CrunCher or not, he flat out outplayed Moman that game, and if you blame it on the "OP protoss deathball" you must have missed a lot of key points in the game

lol..

He out played Moman in the sense that Moman didn't do anything so he just got to do whatever he wanted

Wasn't exactly a stellar game, I bet Cruncher was pretty confused the entire time...then was like "ok...cool" after the final battle
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 27 2011 03:32 GMT
#703
On May 27 2011 12:30 Monolithic- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 12:28 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:25 Dexington wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:22 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:21 Monolithic- wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:19 L3g3nd_ wrote:
The cruncher bashing in this thread is disgusting, TL needs to grow up

I don't see how it's disgusting. He's an uninspiring and boring player to watch.

no, everyones just mad that he outplayed IdrA and then Mondragon, so they hate him because of it. its childish and immature


No, it's because he plays the most boring style that banks on a single attack. Whether that involves a 4gate or cheese or his 3 base turtle to death ball strategy (which are the only three strats he has), the game ends one way or another based on his one attack.

Or, as Moman showed, you can kill him before he gets that chance.

if it works, why wouldnt you do it?

Because its basically using a crutch. You don't have to be a good player to execute those strategies. They won't work forever.

Then how come we dont see protoss players dominating everything? GSL protoss is still the least represented race.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
May 27 2011 03:32 GMT
#704
On May 27 2011 12:31 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 12:28 quiet noise wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:27 travis wrote:
cruncher's play is hilarious

he is doing a pretty solid heavy macro build... i dont really think you can hate on that without looking like a hypocrit. kinda slow to watch though!


I wasn't hating on it. I was saying it's a hilarious way to play. I actually like that style, it's how I mostly played in sc1(though that kind of style was so much more fun in sc1...)


And harder


:D

If MoMaN goes roach hydra corrupter in game 3, my head will explode.
quiet noise
Profile Joined May 2011
599 Posts
May 27 2011 03:32 GMT
#705
On May 27 2011 12:31 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 12:28 quiet noise wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:27 travis wrote:
cruncher's play is hilarious

he is doing a pretty solid heavy macro build... i dont really think you can hate on that without looking like a hypocrit. kinda slow to watch though!


I wasn't hating on it. I was saying it's a hilarious way to play. I actually like that style, it's how I mostly played in sc1(though that kind of style was so much more fun in sc1...)

i suspect that cruncher has very poor multitasking, wich is why he he does these passive turtlemacro into timing push builds. reminds me of me, lol.
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
May 27 2011 03:32 GMT
#706
I dont really blame Moman for not trying to micro there, its not as if its possible to micro off creep hydras and broodlords out of storm. He did play pretty badly though.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
May 27 2011 03:32 GMT
#707
On May 27 2011 12:30 GuiltyJerk wrote:
wow Cruncher played that totally differently, like on a completely different level.


You mean he played average and moman played awful?

I agree they were on different levels, but neither player played amazing.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
May 27 2011 03:32 GMT
#708
On May 27 2011 12:31 MechKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 12:30 swanny_11 wrote:
cruncher turtles to max, who wouldve thought.

So did moman... but oh wait, he's zerg so it's excusable.


Are you blind? There are just as many people here saying how bad Moman played that game.
Jtn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
444 Posts
May 27 2011 03:32 GMT
#709
Whoa, I didn't realize I just travelled back in time to November 2010 ZvP
SweetAs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
New Zealand290 Posts
May 27 2011 03:33 GMT
#710
Who is the guy commentating with gretorp? I really like this guy
CJ.sAviOr : oGsjookTo : mTwDIMAGA
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
May 27 2011 03:33 GMT
#711
So is it safe to say that Protoss can force Zerg to be in the position of having to basically all in and try to end the game quickly now? I mean that seems like the only option. Is all-in drop play simply the only option? So then it's a matter of how well protoss can defend an all in attack?

I mean I hear mrbitter criticizing momans passivity and this is the only way I can interpret what he is saying. What are the other options left to Zerg against a defensive macroing toss?
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 03:34:53
May 27 2011 03:33 GMT
#712
On May 27 2011 12:31 Ghoststrikes wrote:
Welcome to 2010 ZvP

QFT: Where are the banelings? Why are there hydralisks? Why weren't there more multi-pronged attacks and a build-up of spines, at the very least don't park your broodlords over the rest of your army to get stormed Unfortunate for Moman, hope he pulls it back in this game.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 27 2011 03:33 GMT
#713
On May 27 2011 12:32 quiet noise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 12:31 travis wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:28 quiet noise wrote:
On May 27 2011 12:27 travis wrote:
cruncher's play is hilarious

he is doing a pretty solid heavy macro build... i dont really think you can hate on that without looking like a hypocrit. kinda slow to watch though!


I wasn't hating on it. I was saying it's a hilarious way to play. I actually like that style, it's how I mostly played in sc1(though that kind of style was so much more fun in sc1...)

i suspect that cruncher has very poor multitasking, wich is why he he does these passive turtlemacro into timing push builds. reminds me of me, lol.

and why he does really nice void/phnx harras - oh wait
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
May 27 2011 03:33 GMT
#714
On May 27 2011 12:31 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 12:30 Tewks44 wrote:
Ok, Hate CrunCher or not, he flat out outplayed Moman that game, and if you blame it on the "OP protoss deathball" you must have missed a lot of key points in the game

lol..

He out played Moman in the sense that Moman didn't do anything so he just got to do whatever he wanted

Wasn't exactly a stellar game, I bet Cruncher was pretty confused the entire time...then was like "ok...cool" after the final battle


yeah, I agree entirely. I never said CrunCher played well, but Moman just wasn't playing reactive that game. CrunCher outplayed him, but Moman played so poorly that's not saying a lot..
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
May 27 2011 03:33 GMT
#715
On May 27 2011 12:30 Tewks44 wrote:
Ok, Hate CrunCher or not, he flat out outplayed Moman that game, and if you blame it on the "OP protoss deathball" you must have missed a lot of key points in the game


Like what? The only engagements was Moman running units into Crunchers Deathball or the Deathball just moving out and winning the game. Both players expanded all over the place with no pressure put on either of them. The game was very uneventful and displays next to know skill from either player. Heres hoping we get to see some high level play in game 3!
Canadium
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada171 Posts
May 27 2011 03:33 GMT
#716
Can you seriously not chat at all if you're not subscribed? I certainly hope not....
You better run Charles....
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
May 27 2011 03:34 GMT
#717
On May 27 2011 12:33 SweetAs wrote:
Who is the guy commentating with gretorp? I really like this guy
MrBitter, check out this and this thread for his other work.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Myrdraayl
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada9 Posts
May 27 2011 03:34 GMT
#718
Really poor play from Moman that game, hope he steps it up in game 3.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 27 2011 03:34 GMT
#719
Those Hydras died so fast lol
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Hollis
Profile Joined January 2011
United States505 Posts
May 27 2011 03:34 GMT
#720
Crappy game by both players, but it was crappy in a way that greatly favors Protoss so GG cruncher.
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