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dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 09:16:02
December 09 2011 09:14 GMT
#4621
On December 09 2011 18:13 Mouzone wrote:
So corsair is the equivalent of phoenix or did I get that wrong? Thought I only saw them hitting air units.


They're like slightly slower-moving phoenixes with splash. Rather than graviton beam though, they get a skill that stops ranged ground units attacking in an area. Like the viper's new "blinding cloud" ability.
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
December 09 2011 09:15 GMT
#4622
On December 09 2011 18:14 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:14 Holgerius wrote:
On December 09 2011 18:13 Mouzone wrote:
So corsair is the equivalent of phoenix or did I get that wrong? Thought I only saw them hitting air units.

Kinda, yeh. They do splash damage too though, so they're much more awesome.


D WEBU TOO.


Doesn't count unless your Horang2
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
hansel01
Profile Joined December 2011
47 Posts
December 09 2011 09:15 GMT
#4623
Psi storm seems more powerful / harder to dodge compared to SC2
Enearde
Profile Joined February 2011
France265 Posts
December 09 2011 09:15 GMT
#4624
Is forcing hydra good for the protoss, i heard they are much more powerful than in SC2 so it's just a matter of "economical indirect damage" i guess?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 09 2011 09:15 GMT
#4625
On December 09 2011 18:15 deafhobbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:14 StarStruck wrote:
On December 09 2011 18:14 Holgerius wrote:
On December 09 2011 18:13 Mouzone wrote:
So corsair is the equivalent of phoenix or did I get that wrong? Thought I only saw them hitting air units.

Kinda, yeh. They do splash damage too though, so they're much more awesome.


D WEBU TOO.


Doesn't count unless your Horang2


But that was PvT

Common practice in PvZ w/ reavers ;D
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
December 09 2011 09:16 GMT
#4626
On December 09 2011 18:12 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:08 Enearde wrote:
Please guys, i'm not used to starcraft 1 things and i'm wondering, if normal overlord have detection, how DTs can be of any use? (no criticism here, just asking)

Corsairs rape overlords. Also, DTs don't require separate tech structure (same tech structure for both DTs and HTs) so it's not a huge investments to get a couple of DTs. Also, it gives protoss map control until zerg gets overlord speed.


I didn't really get how the Protoss got the advantage in this game.
Seemed like both the Corsairs and DTs did very little. Was it the Zerg overmaking Hydra/Scourge at one point?
Or am I completely oblivious?
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
December 09 2011 09:16 GMT
#4627
On December 09 2011 18:15 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:15 deafhobbit wrote:
On December 09 2011 18:14 StarStruck wrote:
On December 09 2011 18:14 Holgerius wrote:
On December 09 2011 18:13 Mouzone wrote:
So corsair is the equivalent of phoenix or did I get that wrong? Thought I only saw them hitting air units.

Kinda, yeh. They do splash damage too though, so they're much more awesome.


D WEBU TOO.


Doesn't count unless your Horang2


But that was PvT

Common practice in PvZ w/ reavers ;D

bisu vs jaedong was it ? :p awesome game
Stork[gm]
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
December 09 2011 09:16 GMT
#4628
On December 09 2011 18:15 hansel01 wrote:
Psi storm seems more powerful / harder to dodge compared to SC2

Yeah it does more damage and has a bigger area of effect (that was nerfed in sc2 beta if I remeber well). Harder to cast though.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 09:17:18
December 09 2011 09:16 GMT
#4629
GAME 2
SK SENDS OUT BISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU (p)
KT SENDS OUT Action (z)
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 09 2011 09:16 GMT
#4630
Fuck yeah, BW on WCG mainstage, although I've been playing SC2 since release, my heart like many others belong to SC:BW.
For SC2 players with no BW experience: What's best about SC:BW is it put players to the limit, like many had mentioned before. There are 12 units per control group, no smart casting, no smart rally point, no mbs, and most important of all is matches are not decided in one big fight.
KT go go go, Flash will kill you all!!!
Terran
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 09 2011 09:16 GMT
#4631
On December 09 2011 18:15 hansel01 wrote:
Psi storm seems more powerful / harder to dodge compared to SC2

Psi storm is sick good, but you gotta remember that there is no smartcasting, so you've got to individually click each HT and cast a storm. So it makes it harder to use as well.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Shiroyasha
Profile Joined December 2009
Australia9 Posts
December 09 2011 09:17 GMT
#4632
BISU!!!
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
December 09 2011 09:17 GMT
#4633
hope to catch the action from nevake's when I get back, have missed tow days of pl action


Why dont they have pro league on weekends, was hoping to watch live this weekend.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 09 2011 09:17 GMT
#4634
On December 09 2011 18:16 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:15 hansel01 wrote:
Psi storm seems more powerful / harder to dodge compared to SC2

Yeah it does more damage and has a bigger area of effect (that was nerfed in sc2 beta if I remeber well). Harder to cast though.

Much harder to cast due to no smart casting. If you group 4 HT and cast they will cast all for storm at the same place!
Terran
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
December 09 2011 09:17 GMT
#4635
(P)Bisu vs (Z)Action EZ GAME GOGOGO 2-0 SKT
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
December 09 2011 09:17 GMT
#4636
Bisu join the darkside, come play StarCraft II. LOVE!
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
December 09 2011 09:18 GMT
#4637
On December 09 2011 18:13 Mouzone wrote:
So corsair is the equivalent of phoenix or did I get that wrong? Thought I only saw them hitting air units.

Sort of. But they do splash damage, so if you have 6-7 corsairs, you can massacre a mutalisk army. However, zerg has scourge (they're like flying banelings) which are great for sniping corsairs, so corsairs vs. muta/scourge produces some interesting air battles.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
December 09 2011 09:18 GMT
#4638
On December 09 2011 18:16 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:12 DarkMatter_ wrote:
On December 09 2011 18:08 Enearde wrote:
Please guys, i'm not used to starcraft 1 things and i'm wondering, if normal overlord have detection, how DTs can be of any use? (no criticism here, just asking)

Corsairs rape overlords. Also, DTs don't require separate tech structure (same tech structure for both DTs and HTs) so it's not a huge investments to get a couple of DTs. Also, it gives protoss map control until zerg gets overlord speed.


I didn't really get how the Protoss got the advantage in this game.
Seemed like both the Corsairs and DTs did very little. Was it the Zerg overmaking Hydra/Scourge at one point?
Or am I completely oblivious?

Corsairs had a fair few kills. Bad engagement from zerg who also did not drone enough I think. It's sometimes hard to tell in bw, strategy is in fact extremely complicated (even though that game was standard build from both sides).
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
December 09 2011 09:18 GMT
#4639
On December 09 2011 18:17 Grettin wrote:
(P)Bisu vs (Z)Action EZ GAME GOGOGO 2-0 SKT

Action was one of the few zergs to beat Bisu last season.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 09:19:06
December 09 2011 09:18 GMT
#4640
This is going to be rape.

I don't think thunder will strike twice.
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