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JonSki
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom126 Posts
December 09 2011 09:07 GMT
#4601
Got to be dbling for the win got to stay true to a fellow english man (even if Marineking is there) Gogogogo dbling do it for the Brits
"Keep St. George in my heart keep me English"
Enearde
Profile Joined February 2011
France265 Posts
December 09 2011 09:08 GMT
#4602
Please guys, i'm not used to starcraft 1 things and i'm wondering, if normal overlord have detection, how DTs can be of any use? (no criticism here, just asking)
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
December 09 2011 09:08 GMT
#4603
On December 09 2011 18:08 Enearde wrote:
Please guys, i'm not used to starcraft 1 things and i'm wondering, if normal overlord have detection, how DTs can be of any use? (no criticism here, just asking)

corsairs open up the skies for the dt.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
December 09 2011 09:09 GMT
#4604
On December 09 2011 18:08 Enearde wrote:
Please guys, i'm not used to starcraft 1 things and i'm wondering, if normal overlord have detection, how DTs can be of any use? (no criticism here, just asking)

Because corsairs are good ! (you systematically get them in modern PvZ)
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 09 2011 09:09 GMT
#4605
On December 09 2011 18:08 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:08 Enearde wrote:
Please guys, i'm not used to starcraft 1 things and i'm wondering, if normal overlord have detection, how DTs can be of any use? (no criticism here, just asking)

corsairs open up the skies for the dt.


yup, watch Bisu versus Savior finals to find out why!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
December 09 2011 09:09 GMT
#4606
On December 09 2011 18:08 Enearde wrote:
Please guys, i'm not used to starcraft 1 things and i'm wondering, if normal overlord have detection, how DTs can be of any use? (no criticism here, just asking)


Usually Protoss opens with corsairs (similar to Phoenixes) so he takes out overlords, but the maps are way bigger than in SC2, so if you control them well enough and split the DTs, they can do lots of damage.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
December 09 2011 09:09 GMT
#4607
SK's jackets are so baller.
eSports for life.
Enearde
Profile Joined February 2011
France265 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 09:14:09
December 09 2011 09:10 GMT
#4608
On December 09 2011 18:08 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:08 Enearde wrote:
Please guys, i'm not used to starcraft 1 things and i'm wondering, if normal overlord have detection, how DTs can be of any use? (no criticism here, just asking)

corsairs open up the skies for the dt.


Oh, that's smart

Thanks guys !
hansel01
Profile Joined December 2011
47 Posts
December 09 2011 09:10 GMT
#4609
Have NFI about BW as well, hoping to learn a few things!
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 09 2011 09:10 GMT
#4610
On December 09 2011 18:08 Enearde wrote:
Please guys, i'm not used to starcraft 1 things and i'm wondering, if normal overlord have detection, how DTs can be of any use? (no criticism here, just asking)


Corsairs kill/chase Overlords, Overlords aren't that fast, and Zergs tend to not have too many units at that time either.
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 09:13:04
December 09 2011 09:10 GMT
#4611
On December 09 2011 18:08 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:08 Enearde wrote:
Please guys, i'm not used to starcraft 1 things and i'm wondering, if normal overlord have detection, how DTs can be of any use? (no criticism here, just asking)

corsairs open up the skies for the dt.


Also, zerg will typically have at least 3 bases by the time DT's show up, if not 4. Usually the 3rd or 4th will have fewer ovies, which sairs can easily kill or force out if there aren't hydra's present.
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
December 09 2011 09:11 GMT
#4612
oh wow SC2 results couldn't be closer to what I wanted to see (maybe morrow over huk but snute, darkforce, mkp, bling and supernova are through. Kiwikaki too :D)
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
December 09 2011 09:11 GMT
#4613
Hooray for SC2 people checking out BW in an intelligent manner and BW people giving good responses to questions.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
Lamphead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada241 Posts
December 09 2011 09:11 GMT
#4614
Y U MIRROR MATCH SO MUCH TOMORROW D:
We didn't lose the game. We just ran out of time. - Vince Lombardi
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 09:12:55
December 09 2011 09:12 GMT
#4615
On December 09 2011 18:10 deafhobbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:08 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
On December 09 2011 18:08 Enearde wrote:
Please guys, i'm not used to starcraft 1 things and i'm wondering, if normal overlord have detection, how DTs can be of any use? (no criticism here, just asking)

corsairs open up the skies for the dt.


Also, zerg will typically have at least 3 bases by the time DT's show up, if not 4. Usually the 3rd or 4th will only have a fewer ovies, which sairs can easily kill or force out if there aren't hydra's present.



That and ovies without speed are sitting ducks.

+1 air upgrade on corsairs are lethal too.

corsairs/reavers w/ shuttles are common practice too.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
December 09 2011 09:12 GMT
#4616
On December 09 2011 18:08 Enearde wrote:
Please guys, i'm not used to starcraft 1 things and i'm wondering, if normal overlord have detection, how DTs can be of any use? (no criticism here, just asking)

Corsairs rape overlords. Also, DTs don't require separate tech structure (same tech structure for both DTs and HTs) so it's not a huge investments to get a couple of DTs. Also, it gives protoss map control until zerg gets overlord speed.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
December 09 2011 09:13 GMT
#4617
So corsair is the equivalent of phoenix or did I get that wrong? Thought I only saw them hitting air units.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 09 2011 09:14 GMT
#4618
On December 09 2011 18:13 Mouzone wrote:
So corsair is the equivalent of phoenix or did I get that wrong? Thought I only saw them hitting air units.

Kinda, yeh. They do splash damage too though, so they're much more awesome.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
December 09 2011 09:14 GMT
#4619
On December 09 2011 18:12 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:08 Enearde wrote:
Please guys, i'm not used to starcraft 1 things and i'm wondering, if normal overlord have detection, how DTs can be of any use? (no criticism here, just asking)

Corsairs rape overlords. Also, DTs don't require separate tech structure (same tech structure for both DTs and HTs) so it's not a huge investments to get a couple of DTs. Also, it gives protoss map control until zerg gets overlord speed.


Yup. Bigger maps + slower overlords = crazy map control from just a few DT's. And since HT's are essential tech for protoss, it's somewhat common to see toss get a few DT's for just this purpose.
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 09 2011 09:14 GMT
#4620
On December 09 2011 18:14 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:13 Mouzone wrote:
So corsair is the equivalent of phoenix or did I get that wrong? Thought I only saw them hitting air units.

Kinda, yeh. They do splash damage too though, so they're much more awesome.


D WEBU TOO.
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