EPTBut guys, comon don't hate on MC so much. He's a cocky guy but he's not actually an asshole like Idra or something. Everyone who knows him says he's like the nicest guy they've ever met lol, he just has a strong "personality" in game lol. He doesn't hesitate to say wow, that guy is really good and give respect where its due when he loses. Let him trash talk a little lol, he did win two GSL's. Don't you guys all trash talk your friend's when you play?
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GhettoSheep
United States150 Posts
But guys, comon don't hate on MC so much. He's a cocky guy but he's not actually an asshole like Idra or something. Everyone who knows him says he's like the nicest guy they've ever met lol, he just has a strong "personality" in game lol. He doesn't hesitate to say wow, that guy is really good and give respect where its due when he loses. Let him trash talk a little lol, he did win two GSL's. Don't you guys all trash talk your friend's when you play? | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On April 06 2011 01:57 mols0n wrote: I'm hoping MKP takes it even though I like MVP as well. So many ppl have given MKP flak and saying he won't last... I mean I was a little worried about him dropping off after his style seemed to get solved in GSL season 5.. he was getting beat pretty consistently in the team league and had to play an up and down match. But here he is in another final, guy just has heart Its kind of unfortunate that TT1 lost to MKP cuz he would have won the entire tournament. I mean to deal with all that stuff and still take a game off MKP.. think he was jetlegged, had a bad computer, SARS, H1N1, and anthrax. He still made some pretty sloppy plays and payed the consequences. Don't really know if hes good enough to have won the entire tournament. | ||
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HowSoOnIsNow
Canada480 Posts
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ElusoryX
Singapore2047 Posts
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IVN
534 Posts
On April 05 2011 23:30 Sami` wrote: So you are trying to create scenarios that MM doesn't stutter step and use that as your justification for why P micro isn't easier than T bio micro? Problem is that anyone who actually plays/watches the game knows that MM stutter step in nearly every game. P micro is in fact much, much harder, than anything a T has to do in a battle. And this is true, cause doing fast AND precise actions, like placing FFs is simply much harder to do than clicking and then pressing S. Thats also the reason, why there is only one player that can do "MC FFs", namely MC himself, and why every T can do the same stutter step micro. And micro is generally easier when your units move much faster and have much higher DPS. Which is the case with stimed MM. | ||
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lurked
Canada918 Posts
On April 05 2011 23:57 yandere991 wrote: It's funny when one race thinks their race is harder in a certain aspect and is extremely dogmatic about it. Never thought the day would come when terrans would be doing it considering the 5 raxx reaper BS as the start of the game. Meh, probably no use arguing about it further. My race is the hardest, no joke. Don't even try to argue with me, because it's MY race, I know it BETTER than you! Her Derp! Are you bronze level or what? I told you MY race is the hardest, and other races are easier by far. The only reason why I haven't won GSL yet, is because MY race is way HARDER to play! What? You're telling me all races won the GSL at least once? Well, they won when the race was easy to play! It's a lot harder now! | ||
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shakenbake
United States207 Posts
On April 06 2011 02:23 IVN wrote: P micro is in fact much, much harder, than anything a T has to do in a battle. And this is true, cause doing fast AND precise actions, like placing FFs is simply much harder to do than clicking and then pressing S. Thats also the reason, why there is only one player that can do "MC FFs", namely MC himself, and why every T can do the same stutter step micro. And micro is generally easier when your units move much faster and have much higher DPS. Which is the case with stimed MM. In the deathball battle toss just A moves and spams FFs and prepatch press t on the MM. T's have to snipe the cols, emp the temps,stim and kite the zeals. its not that ez. | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On April 05 2011 23:51 Sami` wrote: I agree you don't need a high level of micro to win with Protoss, the ceiling is much lower. No it is not, there is no achievable ceiling for any race, the micro ceiling and skill ceiling in general in SC 2 is far beyond human capabilities, so there is no reason to argue about ceilings. And as for does players with similar results where one is protoss and other terran need different micro skills to achieve it, I did not see any good argument to point one way or another. And you have to also note that there are terrans that do not use bio that much. | ||
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IVN
534 Posts
On April 06 2011 01:30 Arwanto wrote: why should protoss whines when they got better units and mechanics ? lol ... anyway nice back and forth games by MKP though he's gonna lose but he manages to get it back into the game especially in g3 when the void & proxy pylon spawns zealots ... he manages to escape from the deathly GG Give me stim for my zealots and stalkers, and you can have the colossus and HTs, deal? | ||
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dala
Sweden477 Posts
Anyhow, those two round of 4 matches were sickly good. Especially MC vs MKP. As Artosis stated: "Nerd chills served!" | ||
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StarscreamG1
Portugal1653 Posts
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lurked
Canada918 Posts
On April 06 2011 02:27 shakenbake wrote: In the deathball battle toss just A moves and spams FFs and prepatch press t on the MM. T's have to snipe the cols, emp the temps,stim and kite the zeals. its not that ez. Well, obviously you play terran, because to simplify the fight that much, you don't see all that's going on... Throw the force fields down, spread at least 2-3sentries then use guardians shield, so they get your whole army. Micro on the colossi so it doesn't get sniped at the first second by vikings, use stalkers to either snipe vikings or to surround MM ball, makes sure zealots aren't dancing behind your ball, not attacking anytihng, cast storms on the MM ball, or feedback on the medivacs/ghosts(but hurry, because a single EMP and ALL of your templars are doomed and wont be of any use until turned into Archons... I'm not saying Protoss is in any way easier or harder to control/micro/fight than terran, or the other way around. I'm only saying that you guys a f.ing dumb for arguing that your race is harder to micro than the other one, when you should be practicing to get better at the game, so then you wont need stupid arguing to make you feel like there's a reason why you aren't better than you are right now. Also, of course if you compare the amount of micro in a fight of 2 bronze-diamond level players, the options seem quite rares...(At least, that's what the quoted post made me think... I don't know about terran, but the protoss has a lot more to do in a fight than what you wrote...) | ||
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IVN
534 Posts
On April 06 2011 02:27 shakenbake wrote: In the deathball battle toss just A moves and spams FFs and prepatch press t on the MM. T's have to snipe the cols, emp the temps,stim and kite the zeals. its not that ez. OK, this is not an imbalance QQ, but in the early game T is much more powerful than P, and the stim research time increase has not changed that. And since most games in SC2 dont last to late game, most of the time T has more firepower and way faster units, and its up to the toss to perform brilliant FFs, trap the T units and slaughter them. And brilliant FFs demand much more than fast reflexes, you also have to think about positioning (since FFs are useless in the open) and precise action for not to waste mana by overlapping FFs. I just dont see t + klick + s as much demanding in comparison to all the thing that a P player has to do right. | ||
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nofacej
Australia164 Posts
On April 06 2011 02:33 IVN wrote: Give me stim for my zealots and stalkers, and you can have the colossus and HTs, deal? Pretty sure that would make Terran invincible. | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On April 05 2011 23:19 Big J wrote: from the TSL3 interview: Q: Your opponent is ieS-Ciara, a Zerg from Denmark. Do you know anything about him? MC: All I know is that he’s not that great a player. Q: How do you feel the Koreans will do against the best international players? MC: I think the Korean players will win every match. and I remember something he said after he won the last GSL when he was like he doesn't want to play in the Korean Team, as the Foreign Team will be so weak, that Korea doesn't need him. I dont mind if he says he is the best and he will win against someone, but the way he speaks of other pros, especially the nonkorean ones just shows that he is an arrogant, ignorant person. Did you note that unlike some unnamed American Zerg player he has no problem to step out of his persona (and it is just that) and acknowledge that foreigners are better than he thought. And if you listen to what he says it is just an act and you can clearly see it is such. And I say that as not really his biggest fan, I like his persona mostly (except when he sometimes goes overboard) and I don't like his playstyle too much. | ||
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underdawg
United States399 Posts
such potentially epic cheese...then he wins straight up MMV. also, look MC clearly tries to have a showman's personality. in his twitter, he was the first to recognize that foreigners were actually good (even though it turned out that they got rolled when the games mattered + no lag). i think he mentions MKP and MVP as some of the best players in the world. but yeah he's cocky too. but you can tell he's somewhat playing it up, unlike idra, who sincerely seems to believe that he's the best player in the world, based on nothing. in other words, 1) MC has the right to be cockier than idra; 2) MC is NOT cockier than idra, it's clearly mostly an act. If idra is an "act," then kudos for never breaking that persona ever. not everyone can be as humble as MKP. MC took back what he said against foreigners. when has idra taken back anything? also, he rolled ciara so lolingly that his comments about ciara were 100% deserved. that was the most lol pro series i've ever seen. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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sqrt
1210 Posts
On April 06 2011 02:13 HowSoOnIsNow wrote: MKP is the new YellOw, the king of silvers, he's not gonna the championship, as usual. Great matches against MC. Now, we just need a Zerg to do the same... If he is going to be YellOw he has to win the gold here, don't forget, YellOw is the "Special Event King", if he takes silvers everywhere then he'll be Stork. | ||
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ScythedBlade
308 Posts
On April 06 2011 02:27 shakenbake wrote: In the deathball battle toss just A moves and spams FFs and prepatch press t on the MM. T's have to snipe the cols, emp the temps,stim and kite the zeals. its not that ez. Actually it is generally accepted that P micro for the most part is harder than Terran micro in PvT games. It's mostly because the only thing you do have to dodge is storms. Where Terran micro goes crazy is only in TvZ games when you can actually make marines spread out against banelings. Also, the forcefields are what Protoss have to force to do to prevent Terran from kiting, and it's much easier to kite than place Forcefields in an open field, while in a semi close space, it's still possible to kite. Don't troll by saying Terran micro is ever harder than Protoss in a PvT game. It's simply not. (Positioning skills are what you use to win against Toss) =P | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On April 05 2011 21:51 IVN wrote: So, not one Toss is QQing about imba Terra/stim/MMM... I bet, had MC rolled MKP 3:0, this thread would be 500+ pages long, and at least 80% of the posts would have been whining about FFs, Colossi, warpgates, and so on. I'm really proud for being a Protoss player. Protoss = guys with balls. T/Z = constantly whining "old wives". Guess I imagined the endless toss whine between release and MC's first GSL win. Why is it that people feel the need to create divisions and bicker with eachother based on what race they happened to pick? The total inability of so many people to be even a little objective is getting pretty tiresome. | ||
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