EPT[GSL WC] Korea vs World (Day 1) - Page 291
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
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iuvenalis
Poland88 Posts
Suddenly all the beautiful spark and atmosphere is gone for me. I really think that Koreans are making fool of foreigners by playing bad on purpose in some games, which is kinda sad knowing that the world team is playing 100%. Thoughts? | ||
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Looky
United States1608 Posts
On March 29 2011 10:36 iuvenalis wrote: After watching those games, reading comments about Koreans not giving their full potential (giving up games) and not treating this seriously and after watching Sen's interview where he spoke about this issue and admitted that they do this (he wouldn't be lying or making things up) I fell SO *MEH* right now about this series. Suddenly all the beautiful spark and atmosphere is gone for me. I really think that Koreans are making fool of foreigners by playing bad on purpose in some games, which is kinda sad knowing that the world team is playing 100%. Thoughts? dont worry if they keep losing im sure they will try next time lmao. should be a wake up call after those games though. im sure nestea , mvp, mc will take it seriously today. | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
Well i guess it wasn't just his play that was ON FIRE!! On March 29 2011 07:06 Zck. wrote: Slightly off-topic I guess but the Korean "dominance" seeming to be slipping, have we considered that most of these Koreans were never great in Brood War other than Nada, Boxer and July (sure im missing a few)? They were either barely on A-team or on B-team. Some like NesTea was just a 2v2er if I'm correct. What if Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, Stork, and Fantasy would come over to sc2? Believe it or not SC2 and BW are 2 completely different games; obviously Flash, Bisu, JD etc have a fundamental skill level higher than most people. Their multitasking and decision making would put them a level above the rest; but they haven't played SC2, the mechanics are different and there are so many more variables; i am sure they would win a lot - but i doubt they would maintain any crazy win %. I'd love to see it happen though  | ||
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
I mean, they already know that foreigners like Jinro and Huk can compete with them in the GSL, so it's not like they think foreigners are terrible or something... it's likely that they just aren't taking the showmatch too seriously because it's supposed to just be a fun, friendly thing. Just because lots of people think it's about honor and pride doesn't mean that the players see it the same way - maybe it's just about having fun and being casual before the main 16-person tournament. | ||
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pieman819
Australia457 Posts
On March 29 2011 10:26 Logo2010 wrote: I agree the builds they used kinda sucked. But Cella said at the beginning he wanted quick games and for it to be over quickly, which doesn't make sense in a competition. It was amusing and exciting when san or anypro (can't remember) went for carriers and had a long long game. Either way I think the Koreans should of given their all as a sign of respect for the competition. That Carrier build was kinda cool, if he didnt lose so many sentries to sens counterattacking zerglings he could have zoned out the zerg army on the relatively narrow Metalopolis attack corridoors and used their huge range and dps to snipe at the main/expos and keep zerg on his side until too many corruptors popped. Ether way it forced alotta corruptors and sen was slow to make them into broods but San already had blink stalkers and double stargate so even if he switched quicker I dont think it would have changed the result | ||
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ballasdontcry
Canada595 Posts
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kiniko
Canada163 Posts
On March 29 2011 10:36 iuvenalis wrote: After watching those games, reading comments about Koreans not giving their full potential (giving up games) and not treating this seriously and after watching Sen's interview where he spoke about this issue and admitted that they do this (he wouldn't be lying or making things up) I fell SO *MEH* right now about this series. Suddenly all the beautiful spark and atmosphere is gone for me. I really think that Koreans are making fool of foreigners by playing bad on purpose in some games, which is kinda sad knowing that the world team is playing 100%. Thoughts? where's this sen interview you were talking about? | ||
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iuvenalis
Poland88 Posts
On March 29 2011 11:03 kiniko wrote: where's this sen interview you were talking about? http://de.justin.tv/kellymilkies/b/282503920 | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
Sen is great, nicely done. XD | ||
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kiniko
Canada163 Posts
would help if you tell me what minute  that's a 2hr video | ||
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-Ziggy-
Sweden97 Posts
On March 29 2011 10:36 iuvenalis wrote: After watching those games, reading comments about Koreans not giving their full potential (giving up games) and not treating this seriously and after watching Sen's interview where he spoke about this issue and admitted that they do this (he wouldn't be lying or making things up) I fell SO *MEH* right now about this series. Suddenly all the beautiful spark and atmosphere is gone for me. I really think that Koreans are making fool of foreigners by playing bad on purpose in some games, which is kinda sad knowing that the world team is playing 100%. Thoughts? No, the world team is playing at 52.5% Counter-thoughts? | ||
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iuvenalis
Poland88 Posts
On March 29 2011 11:16 kiniko wrote: would help if you tell me what minute that's a 2hr videoIt's first interview, so somewhere in the beginning. | ||
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iuvenalis
Poland88 Posts
On March 29 2011 11:20 -Ziggy- wrote: No, the world team is playing at 52.5% Counter-thoughts? No, the world team is playing at 100%. | ||
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tsularesque
Canada226 Posts
On March 29 2011 11:20 -Ziggy- wrote: No, the world team is playing at 52.5% Counter-thoughts? I don't think you understand. I'm not sure if the KR team is trying to lol off the foreigner efforts, but it's giving the World team a chance to get some confidence in the booths. It'll be an awesome wakeup call when they lose the top prizes. | ||
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joshie0808
Canada1023 Posts
On March 29 2011 11:16 kiniko wrote: would help if you tell me what minute that's a 2hr videoThe particular part where Sen talks about how he (and the World team?) feels that the Koreans were not playing their full potential starts at the 8:57 min mark till the 9:54 minute mark. The interview is conducted in Mandarin Chinese and is translated after Sen replies. | ||
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kiniko
Canada163 Posts
Honestly I feel he's half right, IMO. Koreans are actually very prideful people and I doubt they would like to lose to foreigners on TV, so I think all of them tried to win but they most likely did not prepare and just winged their builds. You can tell when you see all those all-in's and weird builds like the carrier. Tomorrow will be different though, because their reps are on the line. | ||
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KoshkaTV
United States430 Posts
On March 29 2011 10:36 iuvenalis wrote: After watching those games, reading comments about Koreans not giving their full potential (giving up games) and not treating this seriously and after watching Sen's interview where he spoke about this issue and admitted that they do this (he wouldn't be lying or making things up) I fell SO *MEH* right now about this series. Suddenly all the beautiful spark and atmosphere is gone for me. I really think that Koreans are making fool of foreigners by playing bad on purpose in some games, which is kinda sad knowing that the world team is playing 100%. Thoughts? Ur crazy if you think Nada wanted to lose on TV | ||
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macil22
United States14 Posts
They play this game professionally and they are all individuals with their own egos and ambitions. It doesn't make sense that they would essentially throw away games in order to give foreigners "a chance". If this was was the case then they would obviously see the foreigners are bad players who pose no threat. Why would MarineKing who was considered a top tier player want to lose to some barely known "bad" foreigner on televison after getting slapped down in the ro32 in the last gsl? Some people are talking about the Koreans as if they are a single minded entity. Sure the Koreans have a reputation, but so don't the individuals. I could believe that the Koreans underestimated the world players and made poor decisions as a result. It looked like marineking was just being a cocky ass assuming he would roll into an easy victory and he got his shit pushed in for it. And it is also different to play a team vs team style match than the normal gsl where you have time to practice against a specific opponent. Is it better when a player can beat someone when they play at the drop of a hat or when he can win after both players have prepared for a week? I have no idea but its two different things. Didn't code S players get stomped in the first GSTL by players who weren't even in code A? I know mvp lost and I didn't see anyone saying that he was just fooling around. | ||
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