EPTEDIT: NVM I guess the team tourney isn't for money
[GSL WC] Korea vs World (Day 1) - Page 292
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
EDIT: NVM I guess the team tourney isn't for money | ||
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Buruguduy
Philippines238 Posts
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
What a game though. XD | ||
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beat farm
United States478 Posts
On March 29 2011 12:10 happyness wrote: They may not be taking it as seriously as say the GSL or GSTL, but the koreans are competitors and they didn't get this good at starcraft by not taking the game seriously and especially on televised tournaments. Honestly, that's still good money they are competing for, and I don't think most of them are rolling in the dough(well, maybe Nada) and thats why they are not going to reveal anything for a showmatch with zero prize money. they will mess around in that and play serious once it is for money. | ||
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
On March 29 2011 10:36 iuvenalis wrote: After watching those games, reading comments about Koreans not giving their full potential (giving up games) and not treating this seriously and after watching Sen's interview where he spoke about this issue and admitted that they do this (he wouldn't be lying or making things up) I fell SO *MEH* right now about this series. Suddenly all the beautiful spark and atmosphere is gone for me. I really think that Koreans are making fool of foreigners by playing bad on purpose in some games, which is kinda sad knowing that the world team is playing 100%. Thoughts? I feel the same =/ | ||
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kiniko
Canada163 Posts
On March 29 2011 12:12 cca1ss1e wrote: I'm just curious, did we see the new strat by TT1 to crush 4gate? He played well, but it seemed like he was in trouble until he aced that probe surround on those stalkers. What a game though. XD I think he did a good job killing the probe to deny the second pylon. Because if the warp-in was closer for San, TT1 would have gotten owned. I really don't think it was much of a 4gate counter when he barely held it and needed a miracle probe surround. | ||
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Arccotangent
519 Posts
On March 29 2011 12:12 cca1ss1e wrote: I'm just curious, did we see the new strat by TT1 to crush 4gate in his game with san? He played well, but it seemed like he was in trouble until he aced that probe surround on those stalkers. What a game though. XD Yeah, I'm also assuming a probe surround wasn't the key to stopping 4-gate here, though it would be funny if it actually was. I'm guessing it was the 3 stalker early map control part, but it got negated when TT1 didn't spot the high ground pylon. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
On March 29 2011 11:16 kiniko wrote: would help if you tell me what minute  that's a 2hr videoat 9:00 | ||
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Flaunt
New Zealand784 Posts
On March 29 2011 12:12 cca1ss1e wrote: I'm just curious, did we see the new strat by TT1 to crush 4gate in his game with san? He played well, but it seemed like he was in trouble until he aced that probe surround on those stalkers. What a game though. XD yes = =. watch carefully at his build. san just put his probe back to the hiding spot after he built the pylon. this is a massive mind game. tt1 thought that he hadnt yet built the pylon. U NEED TO WATCH CLOSELY AT EVERY LITTLE DETAIL! san wanted to lose that probe on purpose to make tt1 think that he had not yet ubilt the pylon. | ||
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
Add to that the fact that Sen, like a lot of people from Asian countries, is overly modest and saying his opponents only lost because they weren't playing 100% could be his way of showing humility and respect for them. I certainly didn't see anything at all while watching live that suggested the Koreans weren't playing seriously, it was only afterwards when people started talking about it that it even crossed my mind. Also none of the other foreigners said that they were just messing around. Newsflash: failed all-ins and wacky builds happen in every tournament, serious or not, watch the GSL or TSL if you don't believe me, there was nothing that happened here to suggest the Koreans weren't taking the game seriously. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
On March 29 2011 12:14 beat farm wrote: and thats why they are not going to reveal anything for a showmatch with zero prize money. they will mess around in that and play serious once it is for money. woops I'm wrong, but still, there's no reason for them to not play there normal solid style. Yes, they will hide unusual builds(except San didn't) but it's not like any of them do unusual builds that often anyways | ||
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zor.au
Australia270 Posts
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JJH777
United States4415 Posts
On March 29 2011 12:23 Wargizmo wrote: Well you have to realise that Sen's opinion is that of one person, based on the fact that he saw one or two unusual builds from the Koreans. You could use the same logic to say that TLO wasn't playing to win in the TSL because he went for unorthodox builds. Add to that the fact that Sen, like a lot of people from Asian countries, is overly modest and saying his opponents only lost because they weren't playing 100% could be his way of showing humility and respect for them. I certainly didn't see anything at all while watching live that suggested the Koreans weren't playing seriously, it was only afterwards when people started talking about it that it even crossed my mind. Also none of the other foreigners said that they were just messing around. Well just think about looking at the defeated teams in the GSTL's compared to looking at the korean time after this series. In the TLs every time a team was defeated the team looked pretty dang sad/depressed. The Korean looked pretty dang happy/confident even after getting 4-2'd. Granted this is slightly different since they obviously still have the better half of their team to play while in the TLs once you lost you were done there were no two day matches but still. | ||
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Deleted User 109835
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Sumwar
Canada199 Posts
Tomorrow looks exciting, Korea is down 4-2 but they clearly saved their best 4 for last. | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On March 29 2011 12:31 Vezex wrote: As a foreigner I think its cool that the world team is winning some games. As a spectator I want the koreans to demolish everyone in their path. As educated SC2 spectators i think we all need to realise to take the games in this tournament with a grain of salt.. | ||
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
On March 29 2011 12:12 cca1ss1e wrote: I'm just curious, did we see the new strat by TT1 to crush 4gate in his game with san? He played well, but it seemed like he was in trouble until he aced that probe surround on those stalkers. What a game though. XD i failed to execute the build properly, the main purpose of that build is to have 3 stalkers out to intercept the 1zeal 1stalker 1probe that your opponent sends out, you deny their proxy pylon because you have the early game unit advantage, after your 3 stalkers you make 1 gate 2 zeals 1 gate then your pylon, the 5 units u get from your gateways negates their first warpin,(if it comes to that which it shouldnt, ur supposed to deny their proxy pylon) obviously your warpgate is gonna be much slower than theirs because you have to chrono 2 stalkers out and while your doing all this your constantly building probes(which is why i had a pretty significant probe count lead) i just made an amateurish mistake by not scouting for any proxy pylons after i killed his probe, i was really behind after he killed 2 of my stalkers while i was running back to my base but luckily he overextended himself and i managed to surround his units with my probes | ||
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-Ziggy-
Sweden97 Posts
No, I checked the effort thermometer and it clearly says 52.5% | ||
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bigjenk
United States1543 Posts
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s3raph
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On March 29 2011 12:23 Wargizmo wrote: Add to that the fact that Sen, like a lot of people from Asian countries, is overly modest and saying his opponents only lost because they weren't playing 100% could be his way of showing humility and respect for them. As someone who watched the interview and is a native Mandarin speaker, he's definitely not phrasing his comments in a necessarily overly modest nature. I really think he honestly believes that the Koreans weren't playing their best. He even mentions that the entire team talked it over and feels the same way, so it's not just one person. I have to say that it doesn't matter, though. A loss is a loss. Sure, there's not much on the line except bragging rights, but the Koreans still lost. I'm pretty disappointed by that; I want to see more games where the players really take it seriously and go all-out. | ||
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