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underdawg
United States399 Posts
On March 29 2011 07:40 worldchrisis wrote: Did MC really say he lost in the TSL? Did he get confused with the FXOpen Invitational? Sorry if this has already been answered. he's not that dumb man | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
Sen's response to 2 base 5 gate + Show Spoiler + 5 spine crawlers and all larva into zerglings Idra's response to 2 base 6 gate + Show Spoiler + turns 7 larva into drones | ||
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Clog
United States950 Posts
It's a small sample size, and the meta game between servers is obviously going to be somewhat different. Just keep watching games, korean vs foreigner or not, and decide for yourself. You don't have to blindly assume players winning Bo1's, Bo3's, etc are better than their opponent. | ||
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KobeLobster
70 Posts
On March 29 2011 08:01 udgnim wrote: watched G2 between Anypro and Sen Sen's response to 2 base 5 gate + Show Spoiler + 5 spine crawlers and all larva into zerglings Idra's response to 2 base 6 gate + Show Spoiler + turns 7 larva into drones To be fair, Sen was going for muta's, hence the need for spines to defend 5/6gates, while idra was going roach ling, with speed/burrow upgrading if I recall correctly - which should be sufficient to defend if controlled properly. Not defending idra for his blunder, just saying its different circumstances. | ||
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
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worldchrisis
United States45 Posts
On March 29 2011 07:55 Tanatos wrote: He only metioned it as "one online tournament". I am sure he was refering FXOpen Invi. Ok. I thought Tasteless said TSL when he was translating, but perhaps it was a mistranslation. | ||
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pieman819
Australia457 Posts
On March 29 2011 08:05 KobeLobster wrote: To be fair, Sen was going for muta's, hence the need for spines to defend 5/6gates, while idra was going roach ling, with speed/burrow upgrading if I recall correctly - which should be sufficient to defend if controlled properly. Not defending idra for his blunder, just saying its different circumstances. If burrow was finnished Idra wouldn't have lost those 5 roaches to the forcefield trap without doing damage and probably could have held the push eventually with reinforcements. | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On March 29 2011 08:05 KobeLobster wrote: To be fair, Sen was going for muta's, hence the need for spines to defend 5/6gates, while idra was going roach ling, with speed/burrow upgrading if I recall correctly - which should be sufficient to defend if controlled properly. Not defending idra for his blunder, just saying its different circumstances. Well, a problem Morrow and Idra had against their recent opponents in the GSL and TSL respectively is right when they scouted their opponents pushing with a 5-6 gate, they split half their drones and half their larvae. This is questionable to me, since they're supposed to be progamers and play against 4-6 gates all the time....why not convert all larvae to units since their opponent is going all-in anyways? | ||
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
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raf3776
United States1904 Posts
On March 29 2011 08:23 worldchrisis wrote: Ok. I thought Tasteless said TSL when he was translating, but perhaps it was a mistranslation. Yeah hot bid or nazgul? one of those stated that he was talking about the FXOpen as TSL games werent played yet | ||
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kash2k
139 Posts
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emesen
United States256 Posts
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/xO3oF.png) | ||
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Fyrex
Canada102 Posts
I laughed when that happened, poor TT1 =[ He learned his lesson when he won the second game lol. | ||
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Proko
United States1022 Posts
Instead I found people complaining about how SC2 isn't BW and complaining about all sorts of things. The foreigners were supposed to get smashed and they played very well and won a bunch of games. It was exciting and they are awesome. I'm not saying foreigners have overtaken Korea or anything like that. What I am saying is that was great to watch. Way to win us some pride! | ||
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Ludwigvan
Germany2373 Posts
GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO team RestOfTheWorld! | ||
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Snaphoo
United States614 Posts
On March 29 2011 09:13 raf3776 wrote: Yeah hot bid or nazgul? one of those stated that he was talking about the FXOpen as TSL games werent played yet Also, I doubt he would tell MVP and NesTea "you need to practice more" in the interview after having already lost a game in TSL. Mostly likely referring to FXOpen Invitational. | ||
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luckybeni2
Germany1065 Posts
On March 29 2011 07:06 Zck. wrote: Slightly off-topic I guess but the Korean "dominance" seeming to be slipping, have we considered that most of these Koreans were never great in Brood War other than Nada, Boxer and July (sure im missing a few)? They were either barely on A-team or on B-team. Some like NesTea was just a 2v2er if I'm correct. What if Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, Stork, and Fantasy would come over to sc2? Nada was actually still decent. He left on a 3 game winstreak against good opponents(turn,Flying and Hiya). July pretty much did not play at all any more and he didn't practice very much (and he was not really at the top when he started sc2. He played very sloppy the first couple of sets). And in Sc2 the skill set of the more creative players is much more valuable than those of mechanical monsters. Stork would by far have the best style of those to go over. It is a different game and I think yo should stop saying x will be the best if he would come over. MC was never even remotely on the level of Nada or MVP even to the end of their BW carriers. | ||
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Logo2010
509 Posts
On March 29 2011 07:18 Hierarch wrote: You're not saying that the foreigners wouldn't have won, you're just implying it by stating that the koreans weren't giving 100%. They didn't need to do new strats, but cmon NaDa doing a 1 base all in basically? Or Marine King doing basically a 2 base all in. They could easily have played safely and like so many people have stated "Since they are so much better than the foreigners they would have won a standard macro game." But the koreans made poor decisions on builds and strategies. The koreans didn't need to use anything amazingly new or unique, but standard macro play would have been better than gimmick builds. I agree the builds they used kinda sucked. But Cella said at the beginning he wanted quick games and for it to be over quickly, which doesn't make sense in a competition. It was amusing and exciting when san or anypro (can't remember) went for carriers and had a long long game. Either way I think the Koreans should of given their all as a sign of respect for the competition. | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
The interviews were so entertaining, even though I couldn't understand, haha. That Korean woman commentator is hilarious. I'm jealous of the archon! XD also: the Zerg music (right?) playing for the games is rockin', should always be the Zerg music.. seems appropriate :D | ||
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