[GSL WC] Korea vs World (Day 1) - Page 294
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
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Thurokiir
United States779 Posts
On March 29 2011 12:34 TT1 wrote: i failed to execute the build properly, the main purpose of that build is to have 3 stalkers out to intercept the 1zeal 1stalker 1probe that your opponent sends out, you deny their proxy pylon because you have the early game unit advantage, after your 3 stalkers you make 1 gate 2 zeals 1 gate then your pylon, the 5 units u get from your gateways negates their first warpin,(if it comes to that which it shouldnt, ur supposed to deny their proxy pylon) obviously your warpgate is gonna be much slower than theirs because you have to chrono 2 stalkers out and while your doing all this your constantly building probes(which is why i had a pretty significant probe count lead) i just made an amateurish mistake by not scouting for any proxy pylons after i killed his probe, i was really behind after he killed 2 of my stalkers while i was running back to my base but luckily he overextended himself and i managed to surround his units with my probes Thank you for explaining that! =D really awesome to see what actually happened so we can take the true lesson of your build away with us. | ||
entlassen
United States139 Posts
On March 29 2011 13:17 Cyanocyst wrote: Really, i thought Tasteless seemed over 9000 percent uncomfortable. He seemed off his game. I'm, not saying he did a bad job or anything. Though he just seemed more ...out of his element. I agree. I've never really been impressed with Tasteless, as I think that even though he was in top form in the BW casting days, in SC2 he's completely subpar. That he hasn't really improved skill-wise in both playing, knowledge, and casting is not the bad part. It's that one gets the impression that he doesn't really care to improve. When they're not casting, Artosis plays the game and does things for the community like posting up interviews at team houses. The impression I get is that Tasteless just parties. Artosis is on the level of Day9 and Tasteless is on the level of Husky when it comes to understanding of the game; just a whole different tier. A couple of seasons ago, Artosis was joking about how he was like Batman, and Tasteless got irked and said "oh you think you're the Batman? I'm the head caster, you're my co-caster. You're Robin, I'm the Batman." Artosis chose not to reply and just smiled at the camera. Yet yesterday when Tasteless had to solo, he repeatedly made comments to the effect that he needed Artosis there to help him out. Like a baby pulled from his mother's teat. "It's too bad he couldn't co-coach with Artosis?" Only if you want Team World All-Stars to lose from being given third rate advice! | ||
JJH777
United States4376 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:19 entlassen wrote: Artosis is on the level of Day9 and Tasteless is on the level of Husky when it comes to understanding of the game; just a whole different tier. Rofl. I hope you are trolling. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
I would be very happy if DOA and tasteless casted tonight and left artosis to sort out the coaching stuff. Foreigners fighting!!! | ||
emecee
United States222 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:21 JJH777 wrote: Rofl. I hope you are trolling. Rofl. i hope you are trolling. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
JJH777
United States4376 Posts
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ExquisiteRed
396 Posts
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sickle
New Zealand656 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:19 entlassen wrote: I agree. I've never really been impressed with Tasteless, as I think that even though he was in top form in the BW casting days, in SC2 he's completely subpar. That he hasn't really improved skill-wise in both playing, knowledge, and casting is not the bad part. It's that one gets the impression that he doesn't really care to improve. When they're not casting, Artosis plays the game and does things for the community like posting up interviews at team houses. The impression I get is that Tasteless just parties. Artosis is on the level of Day9 and Tasteless is on the level of Husky when it comes to understanding of the game; just a whole different tier. A couple of seasons ago, Artosis was joking about how he was like Batman, and Tasteless got irked and said "oh you think you're the Batman? I'm the head caster, you're my co-caster. You're Robin, I'm the Batman." Artosis chose not to reply and just smiled at the camera. Yet yesterday when Tasteless had to solo, he repeatedly made comments to the effect that he needed Artosis there to help him out. Like a baby pulled from his mother's teat. "It's too bad he couldn't co-coach with Artosis?" Only if you want Team World All-Stars to lose from being given third rate advice! Tasteless did a really good job last night. I hate people who just diss and complain about everything. | ||
Jumbled
1543 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:29 FXOpen wrote: I did not like Artosis coaching and casting at same time. He was a little "overly enthusiastic'', which is bad because he already is really enthusiastic. Tasteless was great solo, very professional, showed knowledge and picked up slack where it needed to be picked up. I would be very happy if DOA and tasteless casted tonight and left artosis to sort out the coaching stuff. Foreigners fighting!!! I didn't have a problem with Artosis being overly enthusiastic, but having him divide his time between the two certainly hindered the casting. It was interesting to have extra insight from him into just what the foreign players were planning and trying to achieve, but it wasn't really worth having him absent or distracted much of the time. I agree that bringing in Doa to help cast might well have been the better option. | ||
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:34 JJH777 wrote: Tasteless has done more for the SC/2 community and understands the game more than any of you random ****s on TL ever will just give up on life dude. What has this got to do with anything? We are allowed to comment on his casting ability.. i think he was just uncomfortable because we could see his crotch :p | ||
kash2k
139 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:19 entlassen wrote: I agree. I've never really been impressed with Tasteless, as I think that even though he was in top form in the BW casting days, in SC2 he's completely subpar. That he hasn't really improved skill-wise in both playing, knowledge, and casting is not the bad part. It's that one gets the impression that he doesn't really care to improve. When they're not casting, Artosis plays the game and does things for the community like posting up interviews at team houses. The impression I get is that Tasteless just parties. Artosis is on the level of Day9 and Tasteless is on the level of Husky when it comes to understanding of the game; just a whole different tier. A couple of seasons ago, Artosis was joking about how he was like Batman, and Tasteless got irked and said "oh you think you're the Batman? I'm the head caster, you're my co-caster. You're Robin, I'm the Batman." Artosis chose not to reply and just smiled at the camera. Yet yesterday when Tasteless had to solo, he repeatedly made comments to the effect that he needed Artosis there to help him out. Like a baby pulled from his mother's teat. "It's too bad he couldn't co-coach with Artosis?" Only if you want Team World All-Stars to lose from being given third rate advice! Take it easy mate, I think you reading too much into it, take a chill pill lol. | ||
LesPhoques
Canada782 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:34 JJH777 wrote: Tasteless has done more for the SC/2 community and understands the game more than any of you random ****s on TL ever will just give up on life dude. HAHAHAHA, best post !!! Golden ! Yea, I dunno why people underestimate Tasteless' ability to analyze games, he is a fucking "Storm Observer". Nothing beats that :3 | ||
entlassen
United States139 Posts
Not trolling at all. It's clear that Artosis fills the analysis role and Tasteless is the color commentary guy. The question is, can Tasteless also do analysis when called upon? The answer is no. Did you see Tasteless duo cast with Kelly? As the senior commentator hosting the new gal, the expectation was that he would step in and do the heavy lifting, but it was clear that he was not capable of doing so. That's why those casts sucked so much, because it was basically like having two color commentators talking with no analysis; the vacuum left by Artosis was felt heavily. She was actually quite good with Artosis. And listening to the TSL casts these past couple of weekends, I honestly can't say Tasteless is much better than Husky. If I had to divide casters into two groups, I would have to lump Tasteless together in the same category as Husky/Chill/DJWheat/JP, with Day9/Artosis in a group above the rest. The alarming thing is that you can actually see DJWheat improving since he entered the scene last year, but the same can't be said for some of these other guys. | ||
rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:40 entlassen wrote: Not trolling at all. It's clear that Artosis fills the analysis role and Tasteless is the color commentary guy. The question is, can Tasteless also do analysis when called upon? The answer is no. Did you see Tasteless duo cast with Kelly? As the senior commentator hosting the new gal, the expectation was that he would step in and do the heavy lifting, but it was clear that he was not capable of doing so. That's why those casts sucked so much, because it was basically like having two color commentators talking with no analysis; the vacuum left by Artosis was felt heavily. She was actually quite good with Artosis. And listening to the TSL casts these past couple of weekends, I honestly can't say Tasteless is much better than Husky. If I had to divide casters into two groups, I would have to lump Tasteless together in the same category as Husky/Chill/DJWheat/JP, with Day9/Artosis in a group above the rest. The alarming thing is that you can actually see DJWheat improving since he entered the scene last year, but the same can't be said for some of these other guys. Did you ever watch bw? Tasteless was a very knowledgeable solo caster then, and he's a very knowledgeable solo caster now. Yes when he's with artosis he takes the backseat, someones gotta do it. | ||
Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On March 29 2011 13:50 HolyArrow wrote: I felt that Tasteless did a great job. In fact, I was impressed since he usually kind of takes the backseat when Artosis is there. This time, he did alot more analysis and in general sounded alot more knowledgeable than usual. Shows that he really knows his stuff and simply lets Artosis do most of the game analysis when they're casting together. people have a misconception that taste is not knowledgeable as artosis. he is pretty darn close. only will get better. very smart starcraft guy. | ||
AngryPolarBear
Cook Islands18 Posts
On March 29 2011 13:50 LeFroMaGe wrote: This.I can't agree with this anymore. There is no money on the line, and I don't see think the Koreans are taking this very seriously. HOWEVER, I do think it is now really raising some eyebrows to the top level players in the GSL, with the results in the TSL now this... How do you actually define taking this seriously? I can see an argument for San's weird ass 2 star carrier but he lost straight up PvP on scrap. It's not like he was eating a burger while playing or something. Same goes for Sen vs MKP where the trademark early bio aggression was just demolished. MKP was playing his standard style and lost. If you define serious as week long 10+ hours per day focusing on a single match then ya I guess they aren't taking this too seriously. How often does that type of practice ever occur? GSL finals maybe semis. Otherwise a more standard style regimen will be used. The same regimen that the korean players are on right now. When the actual tourney starts up will you consider that serious play? What is the difference between then and now? Back in WCG the koreans didn't take the tournament that seriously. Old maps that their leagues didn't use anymore and little or no practice at the site. The difference here is the maps are the GSL ones so the koreans are practicing on them daily. Also they didn't have to travel away so no lack of practice due to travel either. | ||
entlassen
United States139 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:45 rysecake wrote: Did you ever watch bw? Tasteless was a very knowledgeable solo caster then, and he's a very knowledgeable solo caster now. Yes when he's with artosis he takes the backseat, someones gotta do it. Yeah I did. Like I said in the second sentence of my first post, I thought he was in top form back in the BW days. Tasteless used to be great. Anyone could go back and pull up his old videos and see why he was called the Storm Observer. The dude was fast, had great insight and had crisp commentary. It's actually baffling how he's completely dropped down so much in the time between BW and SC2. His talking speed is so sluggish compared to before, and his voice sounds like he's gotten lung cancer. The guy's been drinking/smoking too much or something, he sounds like a totally different person. Too much partying on his off-time, not enough nose-to-the-grindstone SC2. He's nowhere near as good as he was back in the old days, not even close. | ||
ketomai
United States2789 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:53 entlassen wrote: Yeah I did. Like I said in the second sentence of my first post, I thought he was in top form back in the BW days. Tasteless used to be great. Anyone could go back and pull up his old videos and see why he was called the Storm Observer. The dude was fast, had great insight and had crisp commentary. It's actually baffling how he's completely dropped down so much in the time between BW and SC2. His talking speed is so sluggish compared to before, and his voice sounds like he's gotten lung cancer. The guy's been drinking/smoking too much or something, he sounds like a totally different person. Too much partying on his off-time, not enough nose-to-the-grindstone SC2. He's nowhere near as good as he was back in the old days, not even close. Have to agree completely with this post. SO EXCITED FOR TONIGHT. I've never even been excited for an SC2 match before but this is beyond even any SCBW OSL/MSL final. | ||
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