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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 06:40:38
March 29 2011 06:40 GMT
#5881
I get the feeling that Tasteless is actually too busy with other things, which prevents him from playing and keeping up with the SC2 as much as Artosis is. I mean, he is hands down the best English BW caster, but there's a noticeable decrease in his SC2 knowledge. But I think he's pretty okay on his own. Of course, solo casting can get pretty boring.

PS: It was quite amusing how he kept calling Forcefields Stasis for the longest time ever and even calling Alive Light[alive], just shows how great(and long lasting) his SC1 knowledge is.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
March 29 2011 06:56 GMT
#5882
On March 29 2011 09:10 cheesemaster wrote:
Sooo did MC ruin the results for the TSL, when they were interviewing the players at the group picks the translation that tastless said was that mc said this "I lost to a foreigner in the TSL so i dont want to underistimate them" do you think hes already played the game for the next round and he spoiled the results? or do you think it was a mistranslation and he was talking about the FXOPEN?


I can assure you he didn't ruin the results for the TSL.
He hasn't even played his next match yet.

They don't play 2 weeks in advance.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
March 29 2011 06:58 GMT
#5883
It's serious business tonight, boys. The bigshot koreans are coming out to play.
Lanaia is love.
Gospadin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States84 Posts
March 29 2011 07:01 GMT
#5884
I thought Tasteless did great given the situation. Do most of you realize how hard it is to fill 90 minutes of "dead" time between matches? (6 matches, ~15 minutes between each one, plus the long intro time)
double1185
Profile Joined May 2010
Vietnam211 Posts
March 29 2011 07:03 GMT
#5885
On March 29 2011 14:48 AngryPolarBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 13:50 LeFroMaGe wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:34 bkrow wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:31 Vezex wrote:
As a foreigner I think its cool that the world team is winning some games.

As a spectator I want the koreans to demolish everyone in their path.

As educated SC2 spectators i think we all need to realise to take the games in this tournament with a grain of salt..

This.I can't agree with this anymore. There is no money on the line, and I don't see think the Koreans are taking this very seriously. HOWEVER, I do think it is now really raising some eyebrows to the top level players in the GSL, with the results in the TSL now this...


How do you actually define taking this seriously? I can see an argument for San's weird ass 2 star carrier but he lost straight up PvP on scrap. It's not like he was eating a burger while playing or something. Same goes for Sen vs MKP where the trademark early bio aggression was just demolished. MKP was playing his standard style and lost. If you define serious as week long 10+ hours per day focusing on a single match then ya I guess they aren't taking this too seriously. How often does that type of practice ever occur? GSL finals maybe semis. Otherwise a more standard style regimen will be used. The same regimen that the korean players are on right now.
When the actual tourney starts up will you consider that serious play? What is the difference between then and now?

Back in WCG the koreans didn't take the tournament that seriously. Old maps that their leagues didn't use anymore and little or no practice at the site. The difference here is the maps are the GSL ones so the koreans are practicing on them daily. Also they didn't have to travel away so no lack of practice due to travel either.

I dont see the point of the argument here, they are all playing at quite usual pace, Sen in MKP game play incredibly well and even Nestea or JulyZ would do something similarly. I agree that there was some intent to entertain the crowd in their strategy still they still very focus in the game. In term of the gap, during early time of BW, there are times when guys like PJ or Androide can beat top Korean players at WCG. At the moment when BW still standing, I dont think in SC2 Korea can retain such an enormous gap as they do in BW. So as long as the game is delivered in no lag situation, every result should be well received without the moaning about who serious or not
Starcraft FTW
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 07:31:04
March 29 2011 07:07 GMT
#5886
All I can say is, seeing Cella in a suit was quite possibly the best part of last night for me.

He's a really good speaker.. Not bad-looking either. He should try going on some variety shows..
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
MeruFM
Profile Joined February 2010
United States167 Posts
March 29 2011 07:08 GMT
#5887
After all the flak being thrown here against tasteless, I looked at a couple videos with a more critical eye on his commentary.

He seems just as knowledgeable as in SC1. Artosis likes to go more in depth as opposed to Tasteless's mainstream commentary (which is what he did in SC1 commentary anyways).

I think tasteless not having his own camera control definitely hurts any deeper analysis. The observer missed a couple things that Artosis would catch and Artosis would be able to look the more mundane but informational stuff like which buildings are being chronoboosted so his commentary can be more in depth.

Tasteless is just looking at the observer camera so that his commentary is in tune with what we're watching.
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
March 29 2011 07:25 GMT
#5888
kinda sad to see sanzenith go down to a short pvp again. i love all the sanzenith pvz and pvt long games. too bad he always looses in pvp games
entlassen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States139 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 07:54:07
March 29 2011 07:30 GMT
#5889
On March 29 2011 15:56 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 09:10 cheesemaster wrote:
Sooo did MC ruin the results for the TSL, when they were interviewing the players at the group picks the translation that tastless said was that mc said this "I lost to a foreigner in the TSL so i dont want to underistimate them" do you think hes already played the game for the next round and he spoiled the results? or do you think it was a mistranslation and he was talking about the FXOPEN?


I can assure you he didn't ruin the results for the TSL.
He hasn't even played his next match yet.

They don't play 2 weeks in advance.



It's not out of the realm of possibility. Day9 & Wheat mentioned on their TSL cast last weekend that one of the Ro32 matches was played back in January. I imagine that once players know who their next-round opponents are already, they can pick a mutually-convenient time to play their matches whenever they want as long as they submit their replays before a designated deadline. Since both MC and WhiteRa both had their Ro32 results released on TSL Day 2 (two weekends ago), it is entirely possible that the two have already played their Ro16 match against each other. Just because the public cast of the replays isn't for another two weeks doesn't mean the matches haven't already been played.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
March 29 2011 07:33 GMT
#5890
On March 29 2011 16:08 MeruFM wrote:
After all the flak being thrown here against tasteless, I looked at a couple videos with a more critical eye on his commentary.

He seems just as knowledgeable as in SC1. Artosis likes to go more in depth as opposed to Tasteless's mainstream commentary (which is what he did in SC1 commentary anyways).

I think tasteless not having his own camera control definitely hurts any deeper analysis. The observer missed a couple things that Artosis would catch and Artosis would be able to look the more mundane but informational stuff like which buildings are being chronoboosted so his commentary can be more in depth.

Tasteless is just looking at the observer camera so that his commentary is in tune with what we're watching.


Ya that is definitely understandable... plus he needs to cover play by play, whether he is alone or with Artosis. That being said, I wish he would offer more insight as he did in BW. I know that he often leaves the insight for Artosis... but I still wish he would offer more (which he does sometimes) I'm not sure why.

Either way, I am not really complaining. I love Tastosis and I think they do a great job the way it is, though there is always room for improvement.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 07:54:55
March 29 2011 07:51 GMT
#5891
On March 29 2011 16:08 MeruFM wrote:
After all the flak being thrown here against tasteless, I looked at a couple videos with a more critical eye on his commentary.

He seems just as knowledgeable as in SC1. Artosis likes to go more in depth as opposed to Tasteless's mainstream commentary (which is what he did in SC1 commentary anyways).

I think tasteless not having his own camera control definitely hurts any deeper analysis. The observer missed a couple things that Artosis would catch and Artosis would be able to look the more mundane but informational stuff like which buildings are being chronoboosted so his commentary can be more in depth.

Tasteless is just looking at the observer camera so that his commentary is in tune with what we're watching.

I gotta disagree that he's just as knowledgeable in SC2 than SC1. In BW, Tasteless actually could call builds before they came (ironically even without all the observer features in SC2) and the likes. In SC2, while not often, he makes a lot of mistakes which Artosis sometimes has to correct.

Understandably though, as he hadn't been playing SC2 competitively for as long as he has in SC1.

On March 29 2011 16:30 entlassen wrote:
It's not out of the realm of possibility. Day9 & Wheat mentioned on their TSL cast last weekend that one of the Ro32 matches was played back in January. I imagine that once players know who their next-round opponents are already, they can pick a mutually-convenient time to play their matches whenever they want as long as they submit their replays before a designated deadline. Since both MC and WhiteRa both had their Ro32 results released on TSL Day 2 (two weekends ago), it is entirely possible that the two have already played their Ro16 match against each other. Just because the public cast isn't for another two weeks doesn't mean the matches haven't already been played.

Give this a rest will ya. Hot_Bid (one of the tournament admins) said they don't play their games 2 weeks in advanced. Whether he's lying or not is up to you to decide. But just don't bother speculating on it.

Speaking of which they could never play matches back in January because the brackets and all the qualifiers weren't known. What are you talking about?
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 08:00:14
March 29 2011 07:56 GMT
#5892
On March 29 2011 16:30 entlassen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 15:56 TheBanana wrote:
On March 29 2011 09:10 cheesemaster wrote:
Sooo did MC ruin the results for the TSL, when they were interviewing the players at the group picks the translation that tastless said was that mc said this "I lost to a foreigner in the TSL so i dont want to underistimate them" do you think hes already played the game for the next round and he spoiled the results? or do you think it was a mistranslation and he was talking about the FXOPEN?


I can assure you he didn't ruin the results for the TSL.
He hasn't even played his next match yet.

They don't play 2 weeks in advance.



It's not out of the realm of possibility. Day9 & Wheat mentioned on their TSL cast last weekend that one of the Ro32 matches was played back in January. I imagine that once players know who their next-round opponents are already, they can pick a mutually-convenient time to play their matches whenever they want as long as they submit their replays before a designated deadline. Since both MC and WhiteRa both had their Ro32 results released on TSL Day 2 (two weekends ago), it is entirely possible that the two have already played their Ro16 match against each other. Just because the public cast of the replays isn't for another two weeks doesn't mean the matches haven't already been played.


When I say "They don't play 2 weeks in advance" I'm quoting Hot_Bid, except he added a "lol".
He should know.

Edit: MC was talking about losing to Cloud in the FXOpen, lost in translation.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
blAke139
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Switzerland199 Posts
March 29 2011 08:09 GMT
#5893
Will there be a day 2 LR thread? Shouldn't it begin in like about, 1 minute? Or didn't I read well enough?
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seph`
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria329 Posts
March 29 2011 08:12 GMT
#5894
in 1 hour.
entlassen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States139 Posts
March 29 2011 08:13 GMT
#5895
On March 29 2011 16:56 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 16:30 entlassen wrote:
On March 29 2011 15:56 TheBanana wrote:
On March 29 2011 09:10 cheesemaster wrote:
Sooo did MC ruin the results for the TSL, when they were interviewing the players at the group picks the translation that tastless said was that mc said this "I lost to a foreigner in the TSL so i dont want to underistimate them" do you think hes already played the game for the next round and he spoiled the results? or do you think it was a mistranslation and he was talking about the FXOPEN?


I can assure you he didn't ruin the results for the TSL.
He hasn't even played his next match yet.

They don't play 2 weeks in advance.



It's not out of the realm of possibility. Day9 & Wheat mentioned on their TSL cast last weekend that one of the Ro32 matches was played back in January. I imagine that once players know who their next-round opponents are already, they can pick a mutually-convenient time to play their matches whenever they want as long as they submit their replays before a designated deadline. Since both MC and WhiteRa both had their Ro32 results released on TSL Day 2 (two weekends ago), it is entirely possible that the two have already played their Ro16 match against each other. Just because the public cast of the replays isn't for another two weeks doesn't mean the matches haven't already been played.


When I say "They don't play 2 weeks in advance" I'm quoting Hot_Bid, except he added a "lol".
He should know.

Edit: MC was talking about losing to Cloud in the FXOpen, lost in translation.


Thanks for clarifying; I dug through the thread and found his post buried on page 272.
GOM.Sam
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)210 Posts
March 29 2011 08:30 GMT
#5896
On March 29 2011 17:09 blAke139 wrote:
Will there be a day 2 LR thread? Shouldn't it begin in like about, 1 minute? Or didn't I read well enough?


40 minutes from now.

If you follow our twitter or facebook you will know when the broadcast starts each day.
Roll Tide.
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
March 29 2011 08:32 GMT
#5897
Can someone please make a thread for day 2? I am so hyped I have been sitting waiting for 5 hours already.
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
March 29 2011 08:44 GMT
#5898
Fortunately I'm not as busy as I thought. But I still got a bit to do. Will start one if no one has got a thread up in 5-10 minutes.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
March 29 2011 08:46 GMT
#5899
Stream online. We need a Day2 LR Thread.
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
March 29 2011 08:48 GMT
#5900
wonder what this song is talking about haha.
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