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Players such as Jinro, HuK, and Adelscott did not apply for this tour, so don't ask why they aren't on this list. DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLush turned applications in late so they will not appear either. Please take some time to learn who exactly applied. Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't. |
On March 30 2011 06:36 NightEnD wrote:
Anyone put in my place for 1 second you played wc3 for almost 3 years and u never had 1 chance to go to an offline event and then u have it by placing top 4 on europe at blizzard ladder tournament (top 6 would get invited ) after u put so much effort in to the game u love almost 3 years day by day and u take a 4 th place on europe and u get qualified for it blizzard tells u that u cant come becouse there is a law in romania that dosent allow u to play in blizzard tournaments ( my team back then check it with a lawyer and he said that's a lie ) i asked blizzard like 5 6 times wich law is that blizzard only told me there is a law ... (ofc it wasnt any ) and back then i cryed becouse i didnt understand why i got threated like that and i was hoping i will never get threated with souch disrespect .And now i dont get invited becouse they assumed i could not take visa . How can i not be sad when i see how i always get threated .. BDL invited 8 players and for next 8 they had a qualy ... did i qualy for it ? yes i did and im rank 4 after winning whitera 2-1 last matchday , did i qualy for TSL 3? yes i did always when there is somthing based on invitation i get a big FU and a bulshit answer .. how can i not be sad and mad? and pls dont judge me
I am with you Nightend. I think you should have received an invite and better, more timely communication channels should have been established. I have been watching every popular sc2 tournament and I can safely say you are one of the best protoss.
Also, if what Demuslim said is true then I believe he was treated unfairly as well.
And lastly, it was a big mistake not to invite thorzain
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If they didn't invite Demuslim because of a video in front of a hospital and didn't actually contact him for an update on his health / status that is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. :o
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I bet all of the foreigners were stoked for NASL until they saw today's additions lol
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Glad to see the good Koreans on there..Disappointed to see Attero, Inca, Minigun not on the list..
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It is a fantastic lineup.
Slightly surprised that there were only 74 valid applications after the bureaucracies were sorted out, that's a big chunk of players who didn't manage to comply with the necessary rules. Oh well.
Now that we have the final list and the reasoning (which is pretty solid, btw), I can post my own criticism. 
I think they must have something really special planned for incontrol to choose him over Minigun as far as NA protosses are concerned. I think, as competitive and ambitious a guy/player incontrol is, he would have to admit that Minigun has posted the better results recently. Really unfortunate for him that there are so many top EU/KR Protosses already.
I know who I'm cheering for in the open qualifiers!
All that said, good job NASL. Very much looking forward to the league.
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I think this quote is very appropriate now :
"All I ask is one thing, and I’m asking this particularly of young people: please don’t be cynical. I hate cynicism, for the record, it’s my least favorite quality and it doesn’t lead anywhere. Nobody in life gets exactly what they thought they were going to get. But if you work really hard and you’re kind, amazing things will happen."
— Conan O'Brien
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Overall really nice list, but no Demuslim makes me sad.
I think he would own a lot of players from NASL even after this break. He was the Terran to beat in Europe before his Injury and also a very well spoken guy and fan favorite over here. Would have thought Demuslim's invite is a given, considering he's also the only top player from the UK and has also alot of fans here in Germany.
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Out of interest, what kind of Visa does a gamer actually need for an event like this?
Is it something like a standard business visitor Visa, more like the Athlete/Artist/Entertainers Visa, or something else entirely?
Just interested since I'm fairly positive there's a fee of about $150 for the first two which is a pretty sizeable investment to even get your application considered, but I have very little idea about how this works asides from the Athelete/Artist/Enteratiners one (having just helped a friend sort hers) ^^
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On March 30 2011 06:53 BALIstik916 wrote:
I bet all of the foreigners were stoked for NASL until they saw today's additions lol
If they have a shred of competitive spirit and professional pride, they'll be even more stoked to play in this right now. :D
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Really disappointed at the decision to not include minigun, who imo is better than a few of the protoss chosen.
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This is going to be an amazing tourney... unprecedented in NA, so I will take what I am given, and love every minute of StarCraft....
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Xeris, you say you didnt accept NightEnD because he didn't already have a VISA. Did you even let the players know this was a requirement before or during the application process? Based on what it sounds like, you didn't. If not having a passport is a legitimate concern and is cause for disqualification you should have let NightEnD and all players know that BEFOREHAND so they could actually obtain one or fail to. Then you'd have a valid reason for disqualifying them. Sounds like you disqualified him for something that could easily have been remedied if you had let him know ahead of time.
edit: Also disagree with the cruncher over minigun. Minigun is clearly the better toss. And if beating IdrA is validation or sign of skill, Minigun did it first in the Justin tv invitational.
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I don't get why there is so much fuzz about who is in and who is not in the NASL from the start. There will always be hard decisions whose results are not equally accepted by everyone. On the other hand, there are without a doubt, really great players in right now to give an awesome league and time and progress of the league will sort out the ones that do not deserve to be in and put in the one who deserve to be in.
Its not like it was an one time chance to participate in the NASL and it is not like there no other tournaments to be part of. Quite the opposite...
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On March 30 2011 06:44 LaLuSh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2011 05:10 Xeris wrote:
Enjoy~~
North American Star League – The Players
We hope that this will shed some light to the community about our application and selection process. On February 1st I contacted as many teams as I could and allowed them to begin preparing. These are the people/teams that fell under the category of “direct approach.” When we opened the application process, I contacted those teams again to allow them to officially submit their players. Anyone whose team manager was not directly contacted was part of the “public application” pool.
Because we were running at a fairly tight deadline, we had to close the application period at March 16th – we were not able to consider all the “public applications” received after this time. This applies to players such as DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLuSh, for example. Now, to clarify: the “application” is not just the video. The application is complete when the contract has been signed. The process for a public application was for them to send their application video along with manager contact information to apply@nasl.tv . After receiving their info, I would then send the contracts out to be signed. LaLuSh, DIMAGA, and Kas did not follow this application process.
Mostly I've only got myself and bad communication within our team to blame for screwing up the application. I do however accept the explanation of late applications not being considered as I think it's reasonable to stick to your deadlines/rules/process. But I've got a question regarding the explanation you provided. You wrote that you had to close the application period at March 16th. Did you mean March 11th, when player applications from public approach were due (according to your deadlines and process thread), or did you really mean March 16th? Checking my sent mail folder, you should have received the delayed application March 13th at around ~1pm PST. As I understand it player videos for public approach would also have been due March 11th, together with the mailed applications? I see alot of delayed videos having been uploaded, some even considerably later than Dimagas, implying more players were delayed in sending in their applications. Now I don't know how important the different deadlines are for your application process (maybe the video deadline wasn't as important as the other deadlines, and you cut people some slack on that). It does however seem there were a couple of exemptions to the deadlines based on the upload dates of many of the videos. So, questions: 1. Which of the deadlines were the most important? 2. Did you consider applications all the way until March 16th? How come? Wasn't that after the deadline? I didn't expect to get a slot in NASL either way. But as it is now -- my application wasn't even considered. And I'm eager to have you explain some of the discrepancies in that explanation you provided.
Sure I will respond:
"Application Deadlines
Team & Player Contracts (direct approach) due: MARCH 10th, 2011 11:59 p.m. PST
Player Applications (public) due: MARCH 11th, 2011 11:59 p.m. PST
Player Videos (direct approach) due: MARCH 13th, 2011 11:59 p.m. PST
Team & Player Contracts (from public application) due: MARCH 16th, 2011 11:59 p.m. PST"
Taken from this thread. (NASL Deadlines).
We absolutely closed applications on the 16th -- I.E. all contracts not signed then were not considered. The deadline for public applications was March 11th as per our thread & public announcement. Yes, some people submitted their videos late, as I stated before, the video =/= the application. The actual application is complete when the contract has been signed. We understand that players have different reasons for being a bit late on videos, I.E. language problems, not having a webcam / camera, etc... so were more lenient with the videos, as long as the contracts were signed.
I hope that clears it up -- sorry if there was any confusion in my post!
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This thread is derailing really fast. No one was going to get their top 50 choices, I don't see how you can expect that. But I'm pretty dam sure every single poster here was quite a few players he likes that are in the tournament. Yeah it sucks not everyone could get in, but thats life, maybe the NASL will consider doing some kind of sub/demotion program after a season or two, who knows.
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To those negatively critizing the nasl...
Does everyone realize how big e-sports can get in the NA if this booms?
It will be huge, it's getting huge as we speak.
It's a list of 50 people. Unfortunately that means not every top player can get it.
They need to make money off it as well. So not only do they invite top players, but people the community favorites.
If there are players that don't belong, then they will be weeded out pretty fast. They may have taken your favorite players spot, but there's always next season, and if they really deserve to be there, then they will probably be able to get through using the qualifier. I'm not sure how well I would have done if they threw me in there now. I can't say I would be confident playing someone like ogsmc in a tournament. Although I would love the chance too (favorite protoss player <3)
Nasl is a business. I want to watch it grow. Am I little disappointed I didn't get in? Ofc..but will there be other chances to get in, other turnys (especially if the NASL takes off) ? Yes.
Starcraft 2 is so close to becoming huge in the NA. Instead of negatively criticizing one of the first businesses to actually try and expand E-sports in the west. Lets give it our unconditional support. Starcraft 2 can be huge, but only if the community supports it.
Buy your ticket, sit back, with some food and coke, and enjoy the show. I know I will.
Oh btw, thanks for the support to me guys, it means a lot.
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On March 30 2011 06:30 StoLiVe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2011 06:09 Lz wrote:On March 30 2011 05:59 abominable wrote:
after watching LzGamer stream for the last 3 hours... wtf happened?
lol... he's better than at least half of the US players in the tournament, and he wasn't even important enough to mention in the "why players weren't invited" section. lol thats how I feel.. atlest a reason why i was not "mentioned" in the section.. I guess im not Good enough for the league.. for laugh's go look at my recent games list EGLzGaMeR 327 .. lol its funny Im obviously sad i did not even get apparently thought about during this process.. but I will still watch and support the NASL! and of course cheer on my teammates ~ EG FIGHTING The thing who disapointing me the most is that one of you team mate who choose people in the NASL and he didn't bother to mentioned his name in "why players weren't invited"
No I didn't have any say in who was chosen and I also didn't make the post explaining why the NASL selected who they did.
wtf?
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Nice list of players, but for now seems like the communication between NASL and community is pretty bad.
5 players a day just created this mass-flame topic. Wasn't it better to make a 2 hour show with some casters announcing the names, like TSL did with Chill and Wheat?
I also find the self-interview videos pretty useless. Most of them are really bad and we got a lot of information of those player anyway.
The matches are going to be good and that's the most important thing anyway.
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On March 30 2011 06:36 NightEnD wrote:
Anyone put in my place for 1 second you played wc3 for almost 3 years and u never had 1 chance to go to an offline event and then u have it by placing top 4 on europe at blizzard ladder tournament (top 6 would get invited ) after u put so much effort in to the game u love almost 3 years day by day and u take a 4 th place on europe and u get qualified for it blizzard tells u that u cant come becouse there is a law in romania that dosent allow u to play in blizzard tournaments ( my team back then check it with a lawyer and he said that's a lie ) i asked blizzard like 5 6 times wich law is that blizzard only told me there is a law ... (ofc it wasnt any ) and back then i cryed becouse i didnt understand why i got threated like that and i was hoping i will never get threated with souch disrespect .And now i dont get invited becouse they assumed i could not take visa . How can i not be sad when i see how i always get threated .. BDL invited 8 players and for next 8 they had a qualy ... did i qualy for it ? yes i did and im rank 4 after winning whitera 2-1 last matchday , did i qualy for TSL 3? yes i did always when there is somthing based on invitation i get a big FU and a bulshit answer .. how can i not be sad and mad? and pls dont judge me
you def deserved a spot..ive always been impressed by your replays..sry to hear u didnt make it
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Reading the OP I almost jizzed in my pants.
Best day ever. And my mum suffered a heartattack thismorning
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