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On March 21 2011 06:25 Kazzabiss wrote:what are you talking about, it's 1-1 Tyler beat Strelok
Hasu beat Huk, MorroW beat Jinro
I love Jinro man, but it's ridiculous to see people being disparaging towards MorroW for baneling busting a CC first build twice. If you've ever watched MorroW you will know that his macro games are typically his main strength; he's incorporated this July-esque aggression to his game because he is smart enough to adapt his play to current trends, and he used it in textbook fashion to punish greedy builds from his opponent today.
I know for some people these upsets spoiled a bit of their fun, but I have to say for me this was an absolutely amazing day of play, incredibly exciting with some great games, can't wait until next weekend!
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On March 21 2011 06:32 Laids wrote:
Terran 2 raxes to victory = " Amazing play "
Zerg baneling busts= "OMG SUCH A ONE TRICK PONY"
Okay guys.
Indeed. fanboy glasses can really skew a realistic interpretation of the games played.
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Making Banelings is a usefull skill toi have
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Morrow was awesome Terran player but his switch to Zerg even made him stronger than he was as a Terran.
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On March 21 2011 06:32 ccHaZaRd wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2011 06:31 Vindicate wrote:
You're right, everyone. When Jinro 14 cc'd, MorroW should have sat back and done nothing. That was clearly the correct counter, instead of using aggression to push back against Jinro's econ-heavy openings. If your opponent is better than you, as is the case of Jinro being better than MorroW, you have to do something that makes your opponent step outside his comfort zone. You have to make him step sideways and adapt to you, instead of letting him set up his gameplan and roll over you. If you wanted to win a game against a superior opponent, you would have done the same thing. It's strategy 101. take a quick third and more drones instead of making 50 lings and banelings? Thats what he should have done instead of playing like a all in newb
Considering he was droning up before the second attack it wasn't even an all in. It was a perfect time. It sucks to see Jinro lose, but Morrow countered him perfectly.
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On March 21 2011 06:31 Tsubbi wrote:
The 3rd game baneling bust worked because of the fake 3rd, i guess Jinro would've bunkered up had he not seen the drone moving in the beginning. Exciting series, exciting day, loving the tsl!
Indeed. I also saw Morrow doing that little mindtrick.
And it was not a complete all in. Do not forget that there were 35 drones in the back. Even if he didn't finish of Jirno, he could easily bring that number to 50 in a couple minutes + taking his third.
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Morrow's most impressive game was game #2... Ironically the one he lost.
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This is a huge upset. I had Jinro win the whole thing in my bracket ;(. But Morrow is a fantastic player too. And Jinro should have changed his build after the first game.
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On March 21 2011 06:32 Laids wrote:
Terran 2 raxes to victory = " Amazing play "
Zerg baneling busts= "OMG SUCH A ONE TRICK PONY"
Okay guys.
I think the issue is that MorroW baneling busted 3 games in a row...
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On March 21 2011 06:32 grinTOR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2011 06:30 Zozo wrote:
WHY? WHY are you people bashing Morrow?
Read Thorzain's interview on how he says that build is completly vulnerable, and it's pretty much auto-win for the zerg. Try to do it against an experienced player that knows terran inside and out and he's gonna roll over you.
There is no way you can recover from that point, lifting is indeed the best option so you don't lose production. Props to Morrow for doing the right thing, this reaction should be as normal as bunkering/wall after seeing a 6pool Which interview is this?? WTB
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203077
Q: For the game on Terminus, you came out with an interesting but seemingly risky double expansion strategy. How much time and effort went into this build?
The map is so huge that I felt that I would dare to take the risk. It's obviously vulnerable to early pools and such but I felt that I needed to take the risk to have a good chance in the game. I did find out just like an hour before the game that it's really vulnerable against a certain strategy though, but I didn't have time to change my build and just prayed that FD wouldn't use it against me.
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On March 21 2011 06:27 tofucake wrote:
"Morrow being a fucking badass"? Really? All he did was baneling busts, and Jinro was not playing at his usual level.
People really go mad over some pretty boring games don't they :/ I suppose it was exciting just to see the result of what happens and a GSL player get eliminated but still.
I've always had a lot of respect for MorroW and how good he is but he's not even showing it off here.
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On March 21 2011 06:26 eluv wrote:
That ultra-aggressive build pisses me off, and this is why. A bunker rush is a huge micro fight, where the better player can come out hugely ahead. There's no micro fighting a baneling bust. There's no clutch play letting you hold that off. Zergs can hatch first and depend on good micro to minimize damage from the bunker rush, but it just doesn't look like T can 1 rax FE every again, no matter how good their mechanics are, and that makes me sad for the future of the game.
If Jinro would have made 2 bunkers behind his wall i think he would have been fine. Also, he could have skipped that early stim and put up another baracks instead. His plan war probably to put on some pressure with the marines when stim finished, but he never got it up.
Morrow dont have many choices against a FE terran. He can double expand fast but thats risky cuz the 3racks stim marine push is probably gonna do alot of dmg then. So he pretty much has to go baneling bust or roach push.
If he just plays 2base vs 2base hes gonna get way behind cuz of those damn mules ^^
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i feel for TL -.-
at least spare the mods a shitstorm about baneling balance!
gnaw now that my favorite player is gone i will root for my country, luckily we have quite alot in the tournament!
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On March 21 2011 06:32 Quotidian wrote:if morrow getting his ass handed to him in the only straight up game in the match and having to fall back to lame, abusive strats to win, then sure, morrow's a "fucking badass"
2-rax bunker rush is 'Straight-Up?'
Okay then. Glad that's settled.
g.g. Morrow
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On March 21 2011 06:33 Zarahtra wrote: Not only did the most fun player to watch drop out early, but got dropped out by a TvZ strat that plagued the GSL and made it pretty crap -.- Think us terrans really need to wall off better though, making sure those blings aren't hitting the 2nd tier of the wall(like the engi bay was almost dead from the stuff hitting the front).
Actually such strats are very needed to re-balance TvZ...imo if terrans are forced to play more safely then metagame will make the matchup overall more interesting.
I'm protoss btw.
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On March 21 2011 06:32 Quotidian wrote:if morrow getting his ass handed to him in the only straight up game in the match and having to fall back to lame, abusive strats to win, then sure, morrow's a "fucking badass"
how was it straight up when jinro got way ahead thanks to the initial bunkers (even tho jinro let his macro take a big hit during it) ?
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Morrow did what Idra could not do.
Also, banelingsbusts are like bunkerrushes but better. kk? ^^
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On March 21 2011 06:32 Nuttyguy wrote:
shouldnt of jinro sent his factory out to see if there was banelings?
Yeah, I was wondering about that too, maybe he just forgot about it because he even lifted the factory. It was so close to spotting all those morphing banelings.
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Baneling's seem like a pretty logical response to 3 raxes. What else would you have done in the same situation?
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Great games, great production value as well one more time, nice cast by hd and djwheat. ANd so entertaiment. Morrow Back into shape in my opinion, reading the game so well, and abusing it in purpose.
Just waiting for the next weekend to kick.
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