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Come on TL, time to live report in the live report threads, instead of endless whining.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
March 14 2011 16:50 GMT
#2281
poor leenock but i'm happy for huk
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 16:56:26
March 14 2011 16:50 GMT
#2282
On March 14 2011 23:33 APurpleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 22:12 Dalavita wrote:
Is it just me or did Huk have a really easy way into the code S?

Did he defeat anyone strong, ever?


Uh, it's pretty clear from the games that Choya and Inca are easily top 2 control in the world.

He had probably the hardest group.

Hahahaha, so good

On March 15 2011 01:37 meowmasta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 01:18 rysecake wrote:
On March 15 2011 01:00 Arcanefrost wrote:
On March 15 2011 00:48 Dalavita wrote:
I don't mind Huks cockiness, but I think he got extremely lucky to get his Code S-spot.

Code S means a LOT, and Huk got relatively easy drawings every single time, lost to everyone he faced there were good, Losira and Inca, but still got into Code S somehow.

I fully expect him to get manhandled in his first Code S match, but kudos to him for making it at least. Hope he can step his game up, as it is lacking in several aspects.

He'd make a great TvP training partner for Jinro Im sure.


Huk is good enough for code s, he might not win vs guys like nestea but hes definetely good enough.


Huk is not good enough for code s. What's the point of being in code s if you're not in it to win it? He had trouble vs mediocre code a players. Everytime a foreigner loses it's because he "got a bad draw". What do you expect? To make it to the round of 8 by beating baddies? You're eventually gonna run into good players no matter what.


Huk had to go through Code A players like the rest of the people coming up, and he eventually made it. So yes I would say he is indeed a Code S player. You can be in Code S, and not win it. You think, and no offense to the players about to be listed, players like Rain, Anypro, Lyn have a good chance at actually winning Code S? They are still Code S players, just doesn't mean they will win it all, even though their intent is to win it. And even they have a small chance since SC2 is still so volatile and so dependent on good scouting. But that's another topic.

"Almost" like the rest of the people coming up, he did not have to pass through the qualification to code A. Well, whatever he played pretty good I think and has the luck with him (you always need luck, SC2 is not stable enough for the better player to win without a big margin of error).
I'm still a bit worried for his playstyle, I'm not sure he fit well with the current protoss wave (turtle). He is a bit agressiv and maybe take too many risks.
But please, I don't want to see any cocky ceremony in code S, HuK need to manner up a bit, that's so awkward and it does not fit with his status.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Zoia
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States419 Posts
March 14 2011 16:52 GMT
#2283
Yay HuK Fighting!
www.twitch.tv/starcraftsquad - Caster for Playhem.tv
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
March 14 2011 16:53 GMT
#2284
On March 15 2011 01:18 rysecake wrote:
Huk is not good enough for code s. What's the point of being in code s if you're not in it to win it? He had trouble vs mediocre code a players. Everytime a foreigner loses it's because he "got a bad draw". What do you expect? To make it to the round of 8 by beating baddies? You're eventually gonna run into good players no matter what.


In the first rounds HuK admitted that he was quite nervous. Then he lost to LosirA.
And you shouldn't underestimate code A players. MVP lost to Squirtle in GSTL, Squirtle is not even Code A now. It`s too early to judge about Huk just from a few games. He is consistent in the ladder, if he gets more comfortable on stage, I think, he will stay in Code S.
leakingpear
Profile Joined March 2006
United Kingdom302 Posts
March 14 2011 16:55 GMT
#2285
On March 15 2011 01:47 namedplayer wrote:
guys, who is this guy?

http://www.playxp.com/news/read.php?news_id=2681814

heosat? nazgul?


Nazgul.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
March 14 2011 17:06 GMT
#2286
Just watched the VODs, Inca is so good at PvP!! Surprised oGs did not send Inca to snipe out IMSeed during GSTL. Huk looks a bit shaky, but CONGRATZ! Not the most terrible PvP tonight.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 14 2011 17:08 GMT
#2287
Inca looking good as usual. Glad Choya is out. HuK is going to have to step it up though, if he continues the play we saw this season I'll worry for him.
And so sad for leenock =(, but thats the luck of the draw
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
March 14 2011 17:13 GMT
#2288
Woooh TL fighting!
Liquid FIGHTING!!!
Owii
Profile Joined July 2010
United States357 Posts
March 14 2011 17:20 GMT
#2289
Soo....many....PvPs....
Avalain
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada308 Posts
March 14 2011 17:23 GMT
#2290
On March 15 2011 01:25 Mailing wrote:
They need to do something about how stacked this was...

Group A was a joke compared to B. Leenock deserves Code S just as much as Inca or Huk

User was temp banned for this post.


They DO "do something" about it. If you get to the finals you get to choose your opponents.

I mean, hey, it sucks and all that Leenock got the most difficult group, but SOMEONE had to get it. Are you going to say the exact same thing when Sangho has to go up against Zenio and Boxer? Or Alicia against MVP and Genius? Do you think that Leenock could beat MVP and Genius if him and Alicia were switched? After all, he lost of Genius in the previous season.

Remember, Leenock is in this position in the first place because he lost against Genius and Rainbow in the group match last season, and then lost to both Byun and LiveForever in the up&down. This season he lost to Losira or he'd have been able to choose his opponents (and we assume he wouldn't have chosen Nestea and MKP because, uh, he's not crazy).

I guess my point is that at this point an argument can be made for more than the 32 players allowed in Code S. Not everyone is going to be able to make it in and in some cases it can be as a result of bad luck. However, every season is going to see more incredibly strong Code A players (perhaps Bomber next season?) pushing out some of the questionable Code S players. Very soon every up/down group is going to look rather stacked.
You know what unit really has balance problems? Colossi. Why, they look like they could be blown over in a stiff wind!
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
March 14 2011 17:37 GMT
#2291
On March 15 2011 02:23 Avalain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 01:25 Mailing wrote:
They need to do something about how stacked this was...

Group A was a joke compared to B. Leenock deserves Code S just as much as Inca or Huk

User was temp banned for this post.


They DO "do something" about it. If you get to the finals you get to choose your opponents.

I mean, hey, it sucks and all that Leenock got the most difficult group, but SOMEONE had to get it. Are you going to say the exact same thing when Sangho has to go up against Zenio and Boxer? Or Alicia against MVP and Genius? Do you think that Leenock could beat MVP and Genius if him and Alicia were switched? After all, he lost of Genius in the previous season.

Remember, Leenock is in this position in the first place because he lost against Genius and Rainbow in the group match last season, and then lost to both Byun and LiveForever in the up&down. This season he lost to Losira or he'd have been able to choose his opponents (and we assume he wouldn't have chosen Nestea and MKP because, uh, he's not crazy).

I guess my point is that at this point an argument can be made for more than the 32 players allowed in Code S. Not everyone is going to be able to make it in and in some cases it can be as a result of bad luck. However, every season is going to see more incredibly strong Code A players (perhaps Bomber next season?) pushing out some of the questionable Code S players. Very soon every up/down group is going to look rather stacked.


NesTea and MarineKing are easily on another level from Zenio and Boxer. I would go as far as to say anyone from Group B this time around could have rolled anyone from Group A, although HuK might have given Leenock a run for his money.

I agree that every up/down group will look more stacked in future seasons. This one was somewhat odd with previous finalists being in up and downs, along with people who actually should have been there.
NesTea | LosirA | MVP | CoCa | Nada | Ryung | DRG | YongHwa
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 14 2011 17:43 GMT
#2292
I'm so glad the four people I thought would make it made it, I was so worried MKP wouldn't make it out for some reason.

Feel kinda bad for Leenock though.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
ChThoniC
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States536 Posts
March 14 2011 17:46 GMT
#2293
I'm a really big Leenock fan. He's definitely borderline Code S, though, he'll get another chance soon enough.
i c u
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 17:48:19
March 14 2011 17:47 GMT
#2294
LOL top 2 in the world...give me a break....anyone that has better control that HuK is "top" in the world? Talk about fanboyism...Tastosis hype up Huk's control like crazy, but nothing he exhibits in his live matches backs the talk up. His control is good, but not so exceptionally good that they have to harp on that for half the cast. It feels like whenever Tastosis runs out of good things to say about HuK, they go to "LOOK AT HIS CONTROL! WOOOWWW"
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 17:49:58
March 14 2011 17:49 GMT
#2295
Didn't watch the games. Glad to see HuK in code S. Disappointed that Leenock got 0-2'd twice. He should've went with the easy route to code S instead of going after the GSL finalists (aside from Fruitdealer).
Jeremy Reimer
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 14 2011 17:51 GMT
#2296
On March 15 2011 01:50 WhiteDog wrote:
"Almost" like the rest of the people coming up, he did not have to pass through the qualification to code A.


While this is true, I seem to recall that Huk was within a single game of qualifying for Code A in the previous GSL season, after having gone through the same brutal process as everyone else.

So it's not like he just came out of nowhere, got a lucky draw and now he's in Code S. He's been practicing and working really hard, and should be proud of his achievement.
"Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere." -- Carl Sagan
Aaayaaa
Profile Joined December 2010
United States88 Posts
March 14 2011 18:03 GMT
#2297
The HuK hate in this thread is pretty lolzy. Like, come on people, he's clearly pretty good. Who cares that he said he has top 3 control in the world. "OMG LOLOL HuK, the professional video game player, said something cocky, lol1!11!!!!." Get over it. H8ers gonna h8. HuK's in Code S, he deserves it too.
Everything is exactly right.
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
March 14 2011 18:03 GMT
#2298

But please, I don't want to see any cocky ceremony in code S, HuK need to manner up a bit, that's so awkward and it does not fit with his status.


None of his ceremonies were bad mannered at all. They were funny and they had meanings but nothing to do with the people he was competing with. At the end of the day, it just contributes to the drama/interest of e-sports.

Seriously, lighten up.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
March 14 2011 18:05 GMT
#2299
OMG HuK!!! WHATAPLAYAAAA!!
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
Avalain
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada308 Posts
March 14 2011 18:05 GMT
#2300
On March 15 2011 02:37 Clog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 02:23 Avalain wrote:
On March 15 2011 01:25 Mailing wrote:
They need to do something about how stacked this was...

Group A was a joke compared to B. Leenock deserves Code S just as much as Inca or Huk

User was temp banned for this post.


They DO "do something" about it. If you get to the finals you get to choose your opponents.

I mean, hey, it sucks and all that Leenock got the most difficult group, but SOMEONE had to get it. Are you going to say the exact same thing when Sangho has to go up against Zenio and Boxer? Or Alicia against MVP and Genius? Do you think that Leenock could beat MVP and Genius if him and Alicia were switched? After all, he lost of Genius in the previous season.

Remember, Leenock is in this position in the first place because he lost against Genius and Rainbow in the group match last season, and then lost to both Byun and LiveForever in the up&down. This season he lost to Losira or he'd have been able to choose his opponents (and we assume he wouldn't have chosen Nestea and MKP because, uh, he's not crazy).

I guess my point is that at this point an argument can be made for more than the 32 players allowed in Code S. Not everyone is going to be able to make it in and in some cases it can be as a result of bad luck. However, every season is going to see more incredibly strong Code A players (perhaps Bomber next season?) pushing out some of the questionable Code S players. Very soon every up/down group is going to look rather stacked.


NesTea and MarineKing are easily on another level from Zenio and Boxer. I would go as far as to say anyone from Group B this time around could have rolled anyone from Group A, although HuK might have given Leenock a run for his money.

I agree that every up/down group will look more stacked in future seasons. This one was somewhat odd with previous finalists being in up and downs, along with people who actually should have been there.



Well, yes, this is true. Of course, Inca beat MKP in their group matches and probably could have taken Leenock as well. Nestea can probably roll anyone in the Up/down matches (except MVP), but it's crazy that he's even here in the first place. So really, anyone from Group B can beat anyone from Group A, except Inca who beat MKP and HuK who could beat Leenock. In other words, Nestea is very strong, Choya isn't as strong, and everyone else fits around the middle there.

I'm a fan of Leenock and I feel bad for him getting the group he did, but he could have had just as much trouble in other groups (like group E).
You know what unit really has balance problems? Colossi. Why, they look like they could be blown over in a stiff wind!
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