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Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
March 14 2011 19:22 GMT
#2321
I'm not a huk fan either and i think he played poorly compared to even choya yesterday, but its really not a big deal whether or not hes "code S" material.. there are people that are not great or deserving of being in Code S every season, so if hes one of them he will get sent back to up and down matches, that simple. Unless of course he is as lucky as TSL Rain haha
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
March 14 2011 19:24 GMT
#2322
On March 15 2011 04:06 Dalavita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 01:00 Arcanefrost wrote:
On March 15 2011 00:48 Dalavita wrote:
I don't mind Huks cockiness, but I think he got extremely lucky to get his Code S-spot.

Code S means a LOT, and Huk got relatively easy drawings every single time, lost to everyone he faced there were good, Losira and Inca, but still got into Code S somehow.

I fully expect him to get manhandled in his first Code S match, but kudos to him for making it at least. Hope he can step his game up, as it is lacking in several aspects.

He'd make a great TvP training partner for Jinro Im sure.


Huk is good enough for code s, he might not win vs guys like nestea but hes definetely good enough.


Losira is good enough for Code S.

Squirtle is good enough for Code S.

I've yet to see anything from Huk that indicates that he's good enough for code S.


You seem to forget a small fact here : Actually Squirtle is in code B and HuK is in code S.

Squirtle did good in teamleagues but I don't see why he should be considered greatly superior to HuK, esp when you look at his subpar performance at IEM.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Jerax
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada189 Posts
March 14 2011 19:29 GMT
#2323
On March 15 2011 04:24 ChApFoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 04:06 Dalavita wrote:
On March 15 2011 01:00 Arcanefrost wrote:
On March 15 2011 00:48 Dalavita wrote:
I don't mind Huks cockiness, but I think he got extremely lucky to get his Code S-spot.

Code S means a LOT, and Huk got relatively easy drawings every single time, lost to everyone he faced there were good, Losira and Inca, but still got into Code S somehow.

I fully expect him to get manhandled in his first Code S match, but kudos to him for making it at least. Hope he can step his game up, as it is lacking in several aspects.

He'd make a great TvP training partner for Jinro Im sure.


Huk is good enough for code s, he might not win vs guys like nestea but hes definetely good enough.


Losira is good enough for Code S.

Squirtle is good enough for Code S.

I've yet to see anything from Huk that indicates that he's good enough for code S.


You seem to forget a small fact here : Actually Squirtle is in code B and HuK is in code S.

Squirtle did good in teamleagues but I don't see why he should be considered greatly superior to HuK, esp when you look at his subpar performance at IEM.


lol? 3rd place is subpar? Damn ur standards are high.

HowSoOnIsNow
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada480 Posts
March 14 2011 19:33 GMT
#2324
On March 15 2011 04:11 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 03:28 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
On March 15 2011 01:18 rysecake wrote:
On March 15 2011 01:00 Arcanefrost wrote:
On March 15 2011 00:48 Dalavita wrote:
I don't mind Huks cockiness, but I think he got extremely lucky to get his Code S-spot.

Code S means a LOT, and Huk got relatively easy drawings every single time, lost to everyone he faced there were good, Losira and Inca, but still got into Code S somehow.

I fully expect him to get manhandled in his first Code S match, but kudos to him for making it at least. Hope he can step his game up, as it is lacking in several aspects.

He'd make a great TvP training partner for Jinro Im sure.


Huk is good enough for code s, he might not win vs guys like nestea but hes definetely good enough.


Huk is not good enough for code s. What's the point of being in code s if you're not in it to win it? He had trouble vs mediocre code a players. Everytime a foreigner loses it's because he "got a bad draw". What do you expect? To make it to the round of 8 by beating baddies? You're eventually gonna run into good players no matter what.


I personally don`t care for foreigners myself, but saying huk`s not good enough to be at least Code S is hilarious. The guy focus on the game is a testament to why he is worthy of the prize. Maybe, he`s not asian enough for you, maybe? Nao, he cant win Code S next Season, but he lost to LosirA, to me a better Zerg then Nestea. He lost against the winner of the tournament, what`s the shame about it? Squirtle lost to Socke and im pretty sure Squirtle is a much superior player. And by the way, Revival is a very great player. He fucked up, but he`s a great player. I firmly believe that he`ll make it to the round of 8 next season.

Some players grow with the competition that are around them. It`s called Evolving. Huk is probably more than able to evolve with the competition.

People praying on huk`s downfall just because they wish they had the chance to do the same thing. Sad stuff.


He's not asian enough for me? I don't have anything against white people. Jinro is a skilled, talented, humble guy. I like him. Huk hasn't proven anything special is all. I don't have anything against him personally (besides the stuck up attitude sometimes). Saying I wish I could have the same chance is a stupid insult. I play this game for fun, I'm not playing for a living. I couldn't care less about being a top player. For me personally, if he fixes the attitude and shows strong play, then I have no reason to not like him.



When i was a budding guitar players,i could shred so fast in my room, that yngwie malmsteem pieces were easy to me. I moved to Thailand, and i joined a band. First few shows i was playing like pure garbage. I was afraid, i didnt know how to deal with the crowd, i looked awkward. I suddenly felt like, you what man, im a good guitar player, i have a great style, and im an handsome muthafucka, i can do this. I started to play solidly in front of the crowd, and the band knew it would happen, it just take a while to process the fact that the crowd is not against you, and it just take time to adapt . If you look at Huk`s stream, he`s just the same. Good alone, but he needs to adapt to the playing in public part. You just take a look at his face when he was playing and it was evident that he was nervous as hell. When he`s going to be able to master that aspect of playin pro SC2, he`s going to be a very solid player.

I didnt want to aggregate the part where i talk about forum dwellers hating because they wish they could go pro, to you,so im sorry if i inducted you in error. And i`ll agree with you on a point: People here have an obsession with Foreigners, and they dream of the day when Europe or wherever else that is not Korea would dominate the Scene. I`ve read quite a few opinions on the TSL section that flirted with blatant xenophobia.

I personally gave no chance to Ret, Moonglade or Haypro to make it. Foreigners simply dont have the discipline, and as i always, that`s a symptom of white suburbia ( and i feel that asians that lives in the west are pretty much similar). But i pretty much thought that Huk had a chance because he isnt like that. It`s actually sad that you cant even perceive that.
Real mens play Zerg.. Startale fighting.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
March 14 2011 19:34 GMT
#2325
I think its obvious that Huk still has nerves issues on stage at GSL (and who wouldnt, biggest gaming moment of his life last night!) but when we watch him on stream/in other games, Hes pretty damn solid.. so last night was clearly nerves making him play abit worse, yet still good enough to get into Code S.

Once he gets over that, we should see him at the top of Code A / bottom of Code S for a long time. He's a good solid protoss.
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
HowSoOnIsNow
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada480 Posts
March 14 2011 19:35 GMT
#2326
On March 15 2011 04:29 Jerax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 04:24 ChApFoU wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:06 Dalavita wrote:
On March 15 2011 01:00 Arcanefrost wrote:
On March 15 2011 00:48 Dalavita wrote:
I don't mind Huks cockiness, but I think he got extremely lucky to get his Code S-spot.

Code S means a LOT, and Huk got relatively easy drawings every single time, lost to everyone he faced there were good, Losira and Inca, but still got into Code S somehow.

I fully expect him to get manhandled in his first Code S match, but kudos to him for making it at least. Hope he can step his game up, as it is lacking in several aspects.

He'd make a great TvP training partner for Jinro Im sure.


Huk is good enough for code s, he might not win vs guys like nestea but hes definetely good enough.


Losira is good enough for Code S.

Squirtle is good enough for Code S.

I've yet to see anything from Huk that indicates that he's good enough for code S.


You seem to forget a small fact here : Actually Squirtle is in code B and HuK is in code S.

Squirtle did good in teamleagues but I don't see why he should be considered greatly superior to HuK, esp when you look at his subpar performance at IEM.


lol? 3rd place is subpar? Damn ur standards are high.



That`s what i was going to reply lol. Idra was technically a Code S player when he went to iem. Squirtle crushed him. Squirtle is technically a Code B player. What`s happening now. Your logic is failing Chap. Yep!
Real mens play Zerg.. Startale fighting.
MarryMeSeanPlott
Profile Joined April 2010
United States42 Posts
March 14 2011 19:35 GMT
#2327
I feel like I'm missing a joke here. According to votes, game 2 of "Loser" vs. Choya might be a masterpiece? Are people voting ironically, or did I miss something big in that game?
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
March 14 2011 19:37 GMT
#2328
On March 15 2011 03:15 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
Some people dont do well under stress, Huk might be one of them, but he`s still in Code S, and some people will need to start talking less bullshit.

And poor Leenock. He deserves a place in Code S. I hope the kid doesnt give up, he`s talented.

Yeah Leenock made a werid comment after taking out Yughio in the Ro32. Saying that he would have quit Sc2 had he been nocked down to code B. Given his age its really odd to hear him talk like that.

I mean with him being so young, and so good at the game while not truly being able to play full time (and on a team where he's pretty much the best, rather than learning from elders. )

He didnt play well enough today, but hopefully he will continue on.
|| Fruit Dealer | Leenock | Yughio | Coca | Sniper | True | Solar | Dark |
InRainbows
Profile Joined October 2010
United States57 Posts
March 14 2011 19:37 GMT
#2329
holy shit Leenock got shafted so hard. that was an up and down match lmao. if that was a Code S round of 32 it would be considered a death group even then lol. not to mention there would be one other gosu in there.
Dalavita
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 20:04:51
March 14 2011 19:49 GMT
#2330
On March 15 2011 04:24 ChApFoU wrote:
You seem to forget a small fact here : Actually Squirtle is in code B and HuK is in code S.

Squirtle did good in teamleagues but I don't see why he should be considered greatly superior to HuK, esp when you look at his subpar performance at IEM.


Squirtle being in Code B yet again reinforces that there is a great deal of luck in these placements.

Subpar performance at the IEM... He only got third or fourth place, beating Sjow, Idra, Socke while being jetlagged.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 19:57:34
March 14 2011 19:54 GMT
#2331
On March 15 2011 04:35 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 04:29 Jerax wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:24 ChApFoU wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:06 Dalavita wrote:
On March 15 2011 01:00 Arcanefrost wrote:
On March 15 2011 00:48 Dalavita wrote:
I don't mind Huks cockiness, but I think he got extremely lucky to get his Code S-spot.

Code S means a LOT, and Huk got relatively easy drawings every single time, lost to everyone he faced there were good, Losira and Inca, but still got into Code S somehow.

I fully expect him to get manhandled in his first Code S match, but kudos to him for making it at least. Hope he can step his game up, as it is lacking in several aspects.

He'd make a great TvP training partner for Jinro Im sure.


Huk is good enough for code s, he might not win vs guys like nestea but hes definetely good enough.


Losira is good enough for Code S.

Squirtle is good enough for Code S.

I've yet to see anything from Huk that indicates that he's good enough for code S.


You seem to forget a small fact here : Actually Squirtle is in code B and HuK is in code S.

Squirtle did good in teamleagues but I don't see why he should be considered greatly superior to HuK, esp when you look at his subpar performance at IEM.


lol? 3rd place is subpar? Damn ur standards are high.



That`s what i was going to reply lol. Idra was technically a Code S player when he went to iem. Squirtle crushed him. Squirtle is technically a Code B player. What`s happening now. Your logic is failing Chap. Yep!

Did you actually watch his matches against idra because that was definitely not "crushing", even disregarding the fact the series was 3-2 and it was the easiest matchup in the game
Bellygareth
Profile Joined October 2010
France512 Posts
March 14 2011 19:56 GMT
#2332
Just to confirm guys, but didn't huk killed one of his own probes with a dt at the last second of the first game?

I'm not looking to make him look bad as he played well and was sure of winning at that point, but I found that fun.
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
March 14 2011 20:06 GMT
#2333
On March 15 2011 04:35 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 04:29 Jerax wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:24 ChApFoU wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:06 Dalavita wrote:
On March 15 2011 01:00 Arcanefrost wrote:
On March 15 2011 00:48 Dalavita wrote:
I don't mind Huks cockiness, but I think he got extremely lucky to get his Code S-spot.

Code S means a LOT, and Huk got relatively easy drawings every single time, lost to everyone he faced there were good, Losira and Inca, but still got into Code S somehow.

I fully expect him to get manhandled in his first Code S match, but kudos to him for making it at least. Hope he can step his game up, as it is lacking in several aspects.

He'd make a great TvP training partner for Jinro Im sure.


Huk is good enough for code s, he might not win vs guys like nestea but hes definetely good enough.


Losira is good enough for Code S.

Squirtle is good enough for Code S.

I've yet to see anything from Huk that indicates that he's good enough for code S.


You seem to forget a small fact here : Actually Squirtle is in code B and HuK is in code S.

Squirtle did good in teamleagues but I don't see why he should be considered greatly superior to HuK, esp when you look at his subpar performance at IEM.


lol? 3rd place is subpar? Damn ur standards are high.



That`s what i was going to reply lol. Idra was technically a Code S player when he went to iem. Squirtle crushed him. Squirtle is technically a Code B player. What`s happening now. Your logic is failing Chap. Yep!


Squirtle defeated Idra 3-2 and went 18-16 in the whole tournament. For a korean progamer that's a subpar performance, esp when Ace, who's also code B, went 16-2 loosing only to Moon.

I wasn't trying to prove that HuK is better than Squirtle or that code S player cannot lose against code B players. If they were to play a bo5 tomorrow maybe HuK would loose. I just don't understand why HuK gets so much flak and so little support on these boards.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
March 14 2011 20:11 GMT
#2334
On March 15 2011 04:49 Dalavita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 04:24 ChApFoU wrote:
You seem to forget a small fact here : Actually Squirtle is in code B and HuK is in code S.

Squirtle did good in teamleagues but I don't see why he should be considered greatly superior to HuK, esp when you look at his subpar performance at IEM.


Squirtle being in Code B yet again reinforces that there is a great deal of luck in these placements.

Subpar performance at the IEM... He only got third or fourth place, beating Sjow, Idra, Socke while being jetlagged.


Actually Squirtle has a loosing record against Socke, he did rape SjoW though but as good as SjoW is in the foreign scene he's no MVP yet, and Squirtle probably wasn't the only dude suffering from jetlag at IEM.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
HowSoOnIsNow
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada480 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 20:19:12
March 14 2011 20:16 GMT
#2335
On March 15 2011 05:06 ChApFoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 04:35 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:29 Jerax wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:24 ChApFoU wrote:
On March 15 2011 04:06 Dalavita wrote:
On March 15 2011 01:00 Arcanefrost wrote:
On March 15 2011 00:48 Dalavita wrote:
I don't mind Huks cockiness, but I think he got extremely lucky to get his Code S-spot.

Code S means a LOT, and Huk got relatively easy drawings every single time, lost to everyone he faced there were good, Losira and Inca, but still got into Code S somehow.

I fully expect him to get manhandled in his first Code S match, but kudos to him for making it at least. Hope he can step his game up, as it is lacking in several aspects.

He'd make a great TvP training partner for Jinro Im sure.


Huk is good enough for code s, he might not win vs guys like nestea but hes definetely good enough.


Losira is good enough for Code S.

Squirtle is good enough for Code S.

I've yet to see anything from Huk that indicates that he's good enough for code S.


You seem to forget a small fact here : Actually Squirtle is in code B and HuK is in code S.

Squirtle did good in teamleagues but I don't see why he should be considered greatly superior to HuK, esp when you look at his subpar performance at IEM.


lol? 3rd place is subpar? Damn ur standards are high.



That`s what i was going to reply lol. Idra was technically a Code S player when he went to iem. Squirtle crushed him. Squirtle is technically a Code B player. What`s happening now. Your logic is failing Chap. Yep!


Squirtle defeated Idra 3-2 and went 18-16 in the whole tournament. For a korean progamer that's a subpar performance, esp when Ace, who's also code B, went 16-2 loosing only to Moon.

I wasn't trying to prove that HuK is better than Squirtle or that code S player cannot lose against code B players. If they were to play a bo5 tomorrow maybe HuK would loose. I just don't understand why HuK gets so much flak and so little support on these boards.


oh....well i was actually defending Huk myself so now im confused. but let`s remember that Ace got eliminated from code A and crushed IEM. Ace, Squirlte and a countless of other progammers that arent in code a are actually better than alot of guy in Code S, guys like Bomber, Yongwha, ImHorror, Happy, DongraeGu ect.
Real mens play Zerg.. Startale fighting.
CheeseGrater
Profile Joined August 2010
United States290 Posts
March 14 2011 20:20 GMT
#2336
Congratulations Huk!

I hate to say it, but I secretly hope IMMVP loses 2 nights from now just to see him mercilessly smash through Code A. (99.9% sure it won't happen though but you never know)
akaname
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom599 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 20:37:00
March 14 2011 20:36 GMT
#2337
hmmm Group B, and what everyone's saying, reminds me of this song (sorry i cannot figure out how to embed)
Poor Leenock

happy about group a result though, very tense.
There can be only none
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
March 14 2011 20:44 GMT
#2338
Interesting with your stats that Terran has a greater win% than Zerg on Scrap Station.
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
March 14 2011 20:58 GMT
#2339
On March 15 2011 05:44 FabledIntegral wrote:
Interesting with your stats that Terran has a greater win% than Zerg on Scrap Station.


I am using the TLPD for statistics. You can find the rest of the numbers here.
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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
March 14 2011 20:58 GMT
#2340
On March 15 2011 05:44 FabledIntegral wrote:
Interesting with your stats that Terran has a greater win% than Zerg on Scrap Station.

well it is quite a terrible map for zerg really, its better than the maps at the time, but theres no really wide open areas, tank pushing through the rocks is so effective, then seiging just outside the natural and main is so strong
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