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oPPRoBe
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States199 Posts
March 17 2011 07:14 GMT
#2081
Something does not feel right...

Ominous times are coming ... not everyone is going to be accepted and I feel like there's going to be a lot of drama :/

Hopefully I'm wrong.
lmlm
doihy
Profile Joined August 2010
668 Posts
March 17 2011 07:14 GMT
#2082
On March 17 2011 16:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 07:12 Redox wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:07 Zzoram wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:04 KaiserReinhard wrote:
I'm confused, hasn't the deadline for the videos passed? It's awesome that we have these Korean apps but aren't they technically too late?


Yep they're late. Dimaga is late too.

I really wonder how something like this can happen.
It really seems like "pros" are not planing their tournaments like they should. Every fan knew about NASL for weeks now.
I can somewhat understand it in case of Koreans, but here the managers should take care of such issues or in case of oGs the Liquid guys should have told them earlier.
It all comes across as incredibly disorganised.

We told them a long time ago about this tournament, but the opening post of the NASL thread has that bit about "Korean teams have been contacted", so that meant we werent sure what they were supposed to do, as oGs had NOT been contacted.

Obviously something went wrong somewhere when they were contacting the Kor teams.


Well looks like Xeris and Incontrol have some explaining to do. If a top team like Ogs did not get contacted, what about other teams like prime, slayers, and im? Wondering if Wemade and Startale were contacted by NASL admins or they just found out by them selves. Are they trying to limit the amount of better players in the league on purpose?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
March 17 2011 07:15 GMT
#2083
On March 17 2011 16:12 bennyaus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 16:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:12 Redox wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:07 Zzoram wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:04 KaiserReinhard wrote:
I'm confused, hasn't the deadline for the videos passed? It's awesome that we have these Korean apps but aren't they technically too late?


Yep they're late. Dimaga is late too.

I really wonder how something like this can happen.
It really seems like "pros" are not planing their tournaments like they should. Every fan knew about NASL for weeks now.
I can somewhat understand it in case of Koreans, but here the managers should take care of such issues or in case of oGs the Liquid guys should have told them earlier.
It all comes across as incredibly disorganised.

We told them a long time ago about this tournament, but the opening post of the NASL thread has that bit about "Korean teams have been contacted", so that meant we werent sure what they were supposed to do, as oGs had NOT been contacted.

Obviously something went wrong somewhere when they were contacting the Kor teams.


Maybe it was just bullshit, and they didn't want Koreans to apply, whilst simultaneously not wanting the TL community to explode from saying that out aloud, and this isn't just an assumption. SlayerS and oGs weren't contacted, so who was?


Second point would be the right one if i'd have to choose. Though, i wouldn't be surprised if something went wrong with the contacting.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
March 17 2011 07:24 GMT
#2084
When will we be seeing HuK's NASL video???
"En taro adun, Executor."
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 07:36:21
March 17 2011 07:34 GMT
#2085
On March 17 2011 16:24 Chriscras wrote:
When will we be seeing HuK's NASL video???


From couple pages back, "Jinro and Huk focusing on GSl so they are not applying this season."

No idea how reliable the source is.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
March 17 2011 07:38 GMT
#2086
On March 17 2011 06:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 06:39 yoshi_yoshi wrote:
Awesome.

One thing I don't get though - I thought Jinro/Huk didn't apply because they needed to leave room for GSL Code S. How can the Code S OGS guys do this and Jinro/Huk not?

I wasnt comfortable with the times in combination with playing Code S games, on potentially the same day... Im not sure how I feel about the decision given how many koreans signed up anyway, but my reasoning was that Im not nearly as good at falling asleep at random times as most every korean Ive ever met seems to be (i.e they can play until 7, sleep 5 hours, wake up, play, sleep 2 hours after dinner and just be fine... Id end up with a wasted day).

Anyway, I dunno, its too late to change anything now and I have lots of tournaments going anyway.



Here's a Jinro quote about why he's not entering NASL.

Sound reasoning imo. I find people who can function above 50% with disrupted sleep schedules to be freaks of nature. If i don't get my 8 hours or whatever every night, i'm a walking corpse.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Nalesnik
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada51 Posts
March 17 2011 07:48 GMT
#2087
On March 17 2011 16:14 oPPRoBe wrote:
Something does not feel right...

Ominous times are coming ... not everyone is going to be accepted and I feel like there's going to be a lot of drama :/

Hopefully I'm wrong.


All the the conditions are set in place, the elements have been combined. Looming just beyond the horizon, biding its time. Lo yonder! The perfect shitstorm brews. The question is not if but when it strikes...

=p
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
March 17 2011 07:55 GMT
#2088
I don't care what happens as long as MC and Nada's interviews remain on interwebs.

<3
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
DizzyDrone
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 08:10:09
March 17 2011 08:08 GMT
#2089
On March 17 2011 16:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 07:12 Redox wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:07 Zzoram wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:04 KaiserReinhard wrote:
I'm confused, hasn't the deadline for the videos passed? It's awesome that we have these Korean apps but aren't they technically too late?


Yep they're late. Dimaga is late too.

I really wonder how something like this can happen.
It really seems like "pros" are not planing their tournaments like they should. Every fan knew about NASL for weeks now.
I can somewhat understand it in case of Koreans, but here the managers should take care of such issues or in case of oGs the Liquid guys should have told them earlier.
It all comes across as incredibly disorganised.

We told them a long time ago about this tournament, but the opening post of the NASL thread has that bit about "Korean teams have been contacted", so that meant we werent sure what they were supposed to do, as oGs had NOT been contacted.

Obviously something went wrong somewhere when they were contacting the Kor teams.


Wouldn't surprise me if they only contacted Startale and WeMade Fox, as those are the teams that have sent their players to compete outside of Korea in the IEM.

Would be very dissapointing if that's the case, as players like MC clearly deserve a spot - if not for his skill alone, then for entertaining the foreigner community with his awesome interviews.
Mise
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland580 Posts
March 17 2011 08:09 GMT
#2090
On March 17 2011 17:08 DizzyDrone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 16:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:12 Redox wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:07 Zzoram wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:04 KaiserReinhard wrote:
I'm confused, hasn't the deadline for the videos passed? It's awesome that we have these Korean apps but aren't they technically too late?


Yep they're late. Dimaga is late too.

I really wonder how something like this can happen.
It really seems like "pros" are not planing their tournaments like they should. Every fan knew about NASL for weeks now.
I can somewhat understand it in case of Koreans, but here the managers should take care of such issues or in case of oGs the Liquid guys should have told them earlier.
It all comes across as incredibly disorganised.

We told them a long time ago about this tournament, but the opening post of the NASL thread has that bit about "Korean teams have been contacted", so that meant we werent sure what they were supposed to do, as oGs had NOT been contacted.

Obviously something went wrong somewhere when they were contacting the Kor teams.


Wouldn't surprise me if they only contacted Startale and WeMade Fox, as those are the teams that have sent their players to compete outside of Korea in the IEM.
oGs sent their players to Dreamhack
DizzyDrone
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
March 17 2011 08:10 GMT
#2091
On March 17 2011 17:09 Mise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 17:08 DizzyDrone wrote:
On March 17 2011 16:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:12 Redox wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:07 Zzoram wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:04 KaiserReinhard wrote:
I'm confused, hasn't the deadline for the videos passed? It's awesome that we have these Korean apps but aren't they technically too late?


Yep they're late. Dimaga is late too.

I really wonder how something like this can happen.
It really seems like "pros" are not planing their tournaments like they should. Every fan knew about NASL for weeks now.
I can somewhat understand it in case of Koreans, but here the managers should take care of such issues or in case of oGs the Liquid guys should have told them earlier.
It all comes across as incredibly disorganised.

We told them a long time ago about this tournament, but the opening post of the NASL thread has that bit about "Korean teams have been contacted", so that meant we werent sure what they were supposed to do, as oGs had NOT been contacted.

Obviously something went wrong somewhere when they were contacting the Kor teams.


Wouldn't surprise me if they only contacted Startale and WeMade Fox, as those are the teams that have sent their players to compete outside of Korea in the IEM.
oGs sent their players to Dreamhack


hm... completely forgot about dreamhack. I guess I'm as surprised as anyone then :s
Nevarix
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden294 Posts
March 17 2011 08:18 GMT
#2092
Who's the guy Zenio calling the best terran in Europe? To me it sounds something like "Jelo", and maybe it's my bad imagination, but I have no idea who he's talking about.
jonathan1
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
March 17 2011 08:19 GMT
#2093
On March 17 2011 17:18 Nevarix wrote:
Who's the guy Zenio calling the best terran in Europe? To me it sounds something like "Jelo", and maybe it's my bad imagination, but I have no idea who he's talking about.

jinro!
Nevarix
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden294 Posts
March 17 2011 08:21 GMT
#2094
Oh, well of course. >.< In my defence, I thought he meant a player in Europe right now.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 17 2011 08:21 GMT
#2095
On March 17 2011 16:14 doihy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 16:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:12 Redox wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:07 Zzoram wrote:
On March 17 2011 07:04 KaiserReinhard wrote:
I'm confused, hasn't the deadline for the videos passed? It's awesome that we have these Korean apps but aren't they technically too late?


Yep they're late. Dimaga is late too.

I really wonder how something like this can happen.
It really seems like "pros" are not planing their tournaments like they should. Every fan knew about NASL for weeks now.
I can somewhat understand it in case of Koreans, but here the managers should take care of such issues or in case of oGs the Liquid guys should have told them earlier.
It all comes across as incredibly disorganised.

We told them a long time ago about this tournament, but the opening post of the NASL thread has that bit about "Korean teams have been contacted", so that meant we werent sure what they were supposed to do, as oGs had NOT been contacted.

Obviously something went wrong somewhere when they were contacting the Kor teams.


Well looks like Xeris and Incontrol have some explaining to do. If a top team like Ogs did not get contacted, what about other teams like prime, slayers, and im? Wondering if Wemade and Startale were contacted by NASL admins or they just found out by them selves. Are they trying to limit the amount of better players in the league on purpose?

Its entirely possible its not their fault - it could be something as simple as them being given an incorrect email.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
March 17 2011 08:23 GMT
#2096
On March 17 2011 13:40 Vorlik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 12:45 ambientmf wrote:
I like a lot of the VODs, I just wanted to add that I think the NASL is going to be looking for not only tip-top players but personalities. Watching videos like CatZ, Artosis, FXOSheth, TT1, KiWiKaKi, PainUser or Tyler (lol best one) make me look forward to the NASL. I won't name names of the ones I did not care for, but I just think that some of these players need to be themselves and show some personality in their applications. That's just my two cents though, hope to see a lot of these amazing players in the league.


Yeah but would you rather see personality or better games? I'm sure the organizers realize we ultimately just care about the quality of games. If they can have personality AND good games, even better.


Higher level of games doesn't neccesarily mean more entertaining (better?) games. I've seen many people express opinions that NA and EU tournaments are more fun, generally, to watch than the average gsl game. I'm not saying I agree or dissagree with those people but it's not as easy just to put the best players out there and say it's better. Take soccer for instance, often when you put two of the worlds best teams out against each other, they often cancel each other out and you'll get to see an incredible boring game. I think many people would rather have Catz in the tournament than a Korean playing straight up each and every game without any flare even if he's better. But I do agree with you that if you can have both, the choice isn't very hard but it's also quite subjective what is better and entertaining so NASL have their work cut out for themselves.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
March 17 2011 08:25 GMT
#2097
Moon vs. Grubby would be sweet
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 08:46:41
March 17 2011 08:28 GMT
#2098
Lets remember though, if all things go well for the NASL, there will be plenty of more opportunities down the road for foreign and Korean players to play in the NASL and GSL as well as other major tournaments. This is not a one shot deal. So I think even if not everyone was invited this round, there is still a huge pot of high quality players to compete and drawn in views/money for the NASL. Regardless of who is finally picked in the end, just because your favorite didn't make it in the first season doesn't mean you should start flipping out and what not.

Gotta support and cradle this bundle of SC2 joy. Even if its dropped on its head from time to time its still our responsibility to make sure its fed its mashed yams. If we don't WHO WILL?!
Inky87
Profile Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
March 17 2011 08:32 GMT
#2099
On March 17 2011 16:48 Nalesnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 16:14 oPPRoBe wrote:
Something does not feel right...

Ominous times are coming ... not everyone is going to be accepted and I feel like there's going to be a lot of drama :/

Hopefully I'm wrong.


All the the conditions are set in place, the elements have been combined. Looming just beyond the horizon, biding its time. Lo yonder! The perfect shitstorm brews. The question is not if but when it strikes...

=p


Most funny if read in Gandalf's voice.
Doraemon.doraemon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States335 Posts
March 17 2011 08:34 GMT
#2100
I'd say no more than 15 Koreans... maybe 10 is ideal. It's just if I want to see Koreans play, I'd go watch the GSL. I want the NASL to be more focused on Western players.
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