On March 02 2011 21:28 Vorenius wrote: They should probably chose some more straight up questions for the koreans. I feel bad for the translator when it takes TLO 5 minutes to ask the question...
The Translator is a korean living in Germany for many years speaking perfect german & english - so he can handle it - he probably condenses the questions though^^.
I speak english pretty good, but if I had to listen to an almost minute long sentence, you can be sure I'm not gonna be able to translate it even close to 100% accurate. So if the translator can condense the question the interviewer might as well just formulate the question shorter in the first palce
On March 02 2011 21:30 rO_Or wrote: I think people simply had WAY too high of expectations for Moon. He was still playing WC3 competitively at the start of his SC2 career and he does not come from a strong SC1 background like many of the other korean pros. Moon is not the only former WC3 player who struggled early on. He's obviously making huge strides in his play and now hes showing what hes really made of. We all should realize that there is a pretty big difference in gameplay style between WC3 and SC2.
Moon was a solid SC1 player. I pretty much think people are just too hard on GSL code A player. It seems like GSL is so much harder, everytime a random code A player comes out of GSL, we witness a sick play. Having Moon winning IEM does not mean he is better and will instantly GG in next code A (see squirtle in GSTL loosing first round of code A...).
lol moon was a sc1 player?
He had more than 50% winning in FOX intern tournament, and played SC1 before WC3.
On March 02 2011 21:30 rO_Or wrote: I think people simply had WAY too high of expectations for Moon. He was still playing WC3 competitively at the start of his SC2 career and he does not come from a strong SC1 background like many of the other korean pros. Moon is not the only former WC3 player who struggled early on. He's obviously making huge strides in his play and now hes showing what hes really made of. We all should realize that there is a pretty big difference in gameplay style between WC3 and SC2.
Moon was a solid SC1 player. I pretty much think people are just too hard on GSL code A player. It seems like GSL is so much harder, everytime a random code A player comes out of GSL, we witness a sick play. Having Moon winning IEM does not mean he is better and will instantly GG in next code A (see squirtle in GSTL loosing first round of code A...).
lol moon was a sc1 player?
He had more than 50% winning in FOX intern tournament, and played SC1 before WC3.
On March 02 2011 20:33 teacash wrote: lol this ceremony sh*t with the girls is almost as awkward as when TaKe hired a stripper for his home tourney
Wait, what?
WTF is that, that's so low. IEM is so retarded with those chicks and whatnot.
That's not iem, but please flame your heart out
That's TakeSen, but IEM have chicks making blatant razer marketing. Please.
It's pretty dumb in every way since there are more and more female players in other "male" game like poker. Not to mention it's degrading women.
i dont see the problem at all.
1. its fun. 2. the market is like 90% men 3. this happens EVRYWHERE. i cant walk through the street or turn on the tv without seeing ads with half naked women. its normal and works. 4. degrading women? i will never understand that argument. so whenever a person makes money by looking good its degrading the person? what?
i jsut cant understand how a person in 2011 can be so butthurt about something like this. 1960 maybe, but even then women were used for commercial stuff, they just had more clothes on cause of a different age of moral standarts.
1. for you 2. and I'm sure the market could grow bigger 3. I see shit EVERYWHERE. Need to reproduce shit. 4. Yes, you would understand if every commercial on every kind of shit were accompanied with half naked men.
"Moral standards", you mean that it's some kind of evolution of morals that takes off their clothes. It's pretty depressing because what is interesting with women is to take off their clothes yourself. Having a woman half naked and dancing like a worm maybe is sexy for you, but not for me. Especially when I want to see sc2 games.
1. and for the vast majority of other men. 2. stop acting like this has ANY effect. as if a girl would be interested in sc2, then watch iem and say "a girl in hot pants on iem? FUCK THIS GAME!" 3. you call it shit. i call it standart marketing that works. 4. i see half naked men evrywhere too. underwear,cologne,shower,shavestuff, or freaking coa cola light. and i dont care even the slightest bit.
the last part makes no sense at all. where are the dancing girls that get shown instead of games? or are you talking about the take event again? a special semi private thing that the COMMUNITY, the VIEWERS paid for?
and again have you ever been to any event like this? it doesnt matter in what industry you check. thats how companies roll at events like that.
if you dont like it fine. but stop trying to force your opinion(which you are somewhat alone with) on others and ramble so much about it.
if you really want to continue raging about this then PM me. else im done with that.
You're the one raging, can I give my point of view about something without having germany defending it's brand ? You don't care, I do, I find it pretty low, u mad ? I'm alone with this opinion, you're the sheep with the crowd, congratz. I'm not forcing anything.
Youre not alone in the opinion that "applying to the animal lusts" is getting out of hand in our societies. As Paracelsus said 500 years ago: "Everything is poison, nothing is without poison. Only the dosage determines if a thing is poisonous." In this case "overexposure to boobs" through advertising everything with pretty girls (with as few clothes on as you can get away with) devalues the whole thing and makes us lose the appreciation for it.
It always seem like the korean terrans push comes with 50 marines and 5-6 tanks, and the europeans comes with 30 marines and 3-4 tanks and they lose the whole army =/
On March 02 2011 21:30 rO_Or wrote: I think people simply had WAY too high of expectations for Moon. He was still playing WC3 competitively at the start of his SC2 career and he does not come from a strong SC1 background like many of the other korean pros. Moon is not the only former WC3 player who struggled early on. He's obviously making huge strides in his play and now hes showing what hes really made of. We all should realize that there is a pretty big difference in gameplay style between WC3 and SC2.
Moon was a solid SC1 player. I pretty much think people are just too hard on GSL code A player. It seems like GSL is so much harder, everytime a random code A player comes out of GSL, we witness a sick play. Having Moon winning IEM does not mean he is better and will instantly GG in next code A (see squirtle in GSTL loosing first round of code A...).
lol moon was a sc1 player?
He had more than 50% winning in FOX intern tournament, and played SC1 before WC3.
WTF is that, that's so low. IEM is so retarded with those chicks and whatnot.
That's not iem, but please flame your heart out
That's TakeSen, but IEM have chicks making blatant razer marketing. Please.
It's pretty dumb in every way since there are more and more female players in other "male" game like poker. Not to mention it's degrading women.
i dont see the problem at all.
1. its fun. 2. the market is like 90% men 3. this happens EVRYWHERE. i cant walk through the street or turn on the tv without seeing ads with half naked women. its normal and works. 4. degrading women? i will never understand that argument. so whenever a person makes money by looking good its degrading the person? what?
i jsut cant understand how a person in 2011 can be so butthurt about something like this. 1960 maybe, but even then women were used for commercial stuff, they just had more clothes on cause of a different age of moral standarts.
1. for you 2. and I'm sure the market could grow bigger 3. I see shit EVERYWHERE. Need to reproduce shit. 4. Yes, you would understand if every commercial on every kind of shit were accompanied with half naked men.
"Moral standards", you mean that it's some kind of evolution of morals that takes off their clothes. It's pretty depressing because what is interesting with women is to take off their clothes yourself. Having a woman half naked and dancing like a worm maybe is sexy for you, but not for me. Especially when I want to see sc2 games.
Then watch the games, and find something else to look at during the pre-game ceremonies. I'm sure your girlfriend would appreciate some love and attention in between Starcraft matches.
On March 02 2011 21:28 Vorenius wrote: They should probably chose some more straight up questions for the koreans. I feel bad for the translator when it takes TLO 5 minutes to ask the question...
The Translator is a korean living in Germany for many years speaking perfect german & english - so he can handle it - he probably condenses the questions though^^.
I speak english pretty good, but if I had to listen to an almost minute long sentence, you can be sure I'm not gonna be able to translate it even close to 100% accurate. So if the translator can condense the question the interviewer might as well just formulate the question shorter in the first palce
I can barely understand the translator's Korean, let alone his English. They should let moon do interviews in English by himself. For Squirtle and Ace you have to use translator since they don't speak English well.
Fenix' tank/marine cleaned up in the middle of the map even if most of the banes explode on a tank. His ninja-marine group trying to take out 'glades 3rd does no damage.
Fenix way behind, but now starts the typical Zerg symptom of suiciding units trying to end the game.
On March 02 2011 21:28 Vorenius wrote: They should probably chose some more straight up questions for the koreans. I feel bad for the translator when it takes TLO 5 minutes to ask the question...
The Translator is a korean living in Germany for many years speaking perfect german & english - so he can handle it - he probably condenses the questions though^^.
I speak english pretty good, but if I had to listen to an almost minute long sentence, you can be sure I'm not gonna be able to translate it even close to 100% accurate. So if the translator can condense the question the interviewer might as well just formulate the question shorter in the first palce
I can barely understand the translator's Korean, let alone his English. They should let moon do interviews in English by himself. For Squirtle and Ace you have to use translator since they don't speak English well.
EPT
NsP_Moon (protoss) and not wc3 
Moon I think ?
