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warcralft
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore609 Posts
February 26 2011 14:21 GMT
#2121
liquibet died.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8504 Posts
February 26 2011 14:25 GMT
#2122
On February 26 2011 16:05 Spinoza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 15:55 rebdomine wrote:
On February 26 2011 15:54 Inky87 wrote:
I think I can speak for everyone that at least the best players won in those games. No cheese or anything.


This.

Well deserved wins for the players who've won. No real reason to be hating on San and Ensnare for playing so solid.


Absolutely agree, and it wasn't even close. Fantastically fun games to watch, both wins were well deserved. This is turning out to be a great GSL season!


Yes, but in the macro games there is even a better chance of winning for zerg than for example on LT Close. That the other races can makro up like crazy only shows that 99% of the poeple was wrong about the thing, that no one can stop zerg in a pure makro match. I like to hear that because it tells a lot of poeple that they are bad at makro which they never believed.
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
February 26 2011 14:25 GMT
#2123
On February 26 2011 23:21 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 22:58 PlosionCornu wrote:
On February 26 2011 22:34 EchoZ wrote:
Can someone tell me how San did so well?

No one knows.

No one can explain what transpired today.

This transcendes mere logic.


You don't just suddenly get that good. He must have been solid, then just finally got over his fear of the booth or something. He goes from being a joke (and some of us rooting for him in the Up & Down matches last time, because it was nice for him to win something) to rolling out the most solid PvZ ever seen. Then wins solid matches in PvT.

He went from chump to possible title contender. That just doesn't happen.


I was just joking about how low were the expectations towards sanzenith, but at heart I concur.
San's poor performance was mainly psychologic than anything else, most probably
In truth i'm extremely happy for the guy, after all the jokes, the pokes and the shit he went through he was able to come out on top, pitted against of one of the best. In front of everyone.

AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
February 26 2011 14:28 GMT
#2124
I wouldn't say Nestea played extremely well. Certainly not his best. That game against Ensnare the game was very even and he just allowed ensnare to take out his 3rd base when he could've easily stopped the harrass with his 2312312 banelings and mutalisks, for some reason he just sat there and watched the expo die, before eventually engaging and demolishing the army. Who knows how much that put the game in Ensnare's favour. Then later on he went for a counter and lost like all his banelings for no apparent reason. But you have to credit Ensnare, awesome harrass and macro taking bases constantly, had like 5 or 6 at the end and his units were fully upgraded, really can't fault his play in that game and deserved to advance.

Hard to say what happened in the Nestea vs San game, can't exactly say Nestea played bad, San just seemed to do everything right. His early push really weakened nestea, then he held off nesteas response and it got to late game where he seemed to just make every right decision. His DT's were used perfectly sniping hatches and stray units, his use of HT's was also good hitting drones and stuff then making mass archons and using them very effectively. His mothership play was really good, he defended all his expos with turrets to stop the muta harrass, good blink play then he then made the perfect counter to ultras with immortals. I'm not too sure what nestea could've done.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 26 2011 14:29 GMT
#2125
On February 26 2011 23:21 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 22:58 PlosionCornu wrote:
On February 26 2011 22:34 EchoZ wrote:
Can someone tell me how San did so well?

No one knows.

No one can explain what transpired today.

This transcendes mere logic.


You don't just suddenly get that good. He must have been solid, then just finally got over his fear of the booth or something. He goes from being a joke (and some of us rooting for him in the Up & Down matches last time, because it was nice for him to win something) to rolling out the most solid PvZ ever seen. Then wins solid matches in PvT.

He went from chump to possible title contender. That just doesn't happen.

Well, MKP (aka Foxer) played terribly in the Ro64 of GSL2, and now he is one of the scariest Terrans in GSL. Nestea couldn't even spread creep in GSL1, yet he went on to win GSL2 going undefeated until the finals. MC had huge problems with nerves in GSL1 and GSL2, yet once he overcame those nerves, he completely rolled through GSL3. Jinro didn't even qualify for GSL1 and GSL2, yet he now consistently gets to the semifinals of GSL3 and GSL4.

I'm glad to see SanZenith overcome his issues and start playing some extremely solid games. The more good players, the better GSL becomes, even if it is at the detriment of the old champions. The average Code S player is getting better and better, and it's really showing in the increasingly amazing games that are being played.
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Coruscant
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore84 Posts
February 26 2011 14:46 GMT
#2126
Group E's been turning out to be an interesting group after all. So much for Tastosis' predictions about a 3-horse race before the matches haha.
dar0za
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada74 Posts
February 26 2011 14:50 GMT
#2127
wow... sadzenith? MANzenith.
open your mind a little too much and your brain will fall out. | sansfromage #302
Raygun
Profile Joined August 2010
348 Posts
February 26 2011 15:22 GMT
#2128
I was curious about that Vortex when San had Archons, Immortals, and Stalkers and Nestea had Ultras, Banelings, and Corrupters (40th minute in game time). I used a unit tester to see what would have likely occurred if they both just put their armies inside.

I tested it at least a dozen times with an approximation of the unit counts and the appropriate upgrades. Zerg came out on top easily every time. The majority of the Ultras and Corrupters survived with health differing from deep red to green. A few times some Immortals would survive, but the Ultras cleaned them up easy.

Even with only 3 Banelings inside, Zerg won easily each time out of 6 or so tests. There were many more survivors, including some Archons, but Zerg still won with around 4-6 Ultras and a couple of Corrupters.

Tastosis was really pushing for San to send his Archons in, but if Nestea put his Banelings in also, I don't think it would have worked out so well. I think his decision to wait outside was a great one!

*Just for fun! There are so many ways that could have gone down.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
February 26 2011 15:30 GMT
#2129
Of course Im disappointed that the emperor didnt make it, but also I really disliked all the mocking of sanzenith so I love that he 3:0 'ed .

Also I bet this group has the most disgusting liquibet statistic ever.
This is our town, scrub
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
February 26 2011 15:32 GMT
#2130
dissapointed for boxer and nestea but feel really happy for SanZenith
cant forget his sad face when he lost 2 games under 10 minutes on GSL Jan, glad he improved and show that he is SadZenith no more
Put quote here for readability
4of8
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 15:53:38
February 26 2011 15:52 GMT
#2131
If Sanzenith stays at this level he is going to make a lot more players sad.
But since this seems to be the upset season, I am no going to think TheWind will be our champion this season. Just loved his answer in the interview where he was saying he felt sorry for winning because he didn't practice a lot.
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
February 26 2011 15:53 GMT
#2132
sanGOSU
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
Tarot
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada440 Posts
February 26 2011 15:57 GMT
#2133
So many upsets already this season with MVP and Nestea already out. I'm afraid to place anymore liquibets.
Mise
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland580 Posts
February 26 2011 16:02 GMT
#2134
On February 26 2011 23:21 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 22:58 PlosionCornu wrote:
On February 26 2011 22:34 EchoZ wrote:
Can someone tell me how San did so well?

No one knows.

No one can explain what transpired today.

This transcendes mere logic.


You don't just suddenly get that good. He must have been solid, then just finally got over his fear of the booth or something. He goes from being a joke (and some of us rooting for him in the Up & Down matches last time, because it was nice for him to win something) to rolling out the most solid PvZ ever seen. Then wins solid matches in PvT.

He went from chump to possible title contender. That just doesn't happen.
I think San's poor prior performance was because he only played the game for fun and didn't practice all that much, like he himself said. I guess he decided to give his best for his last season and practiced as hard as he could. Surprisingly he was extremelly talented and went from a joke to arguably the best Protoss out there.
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
February 26 2011 16:03 GMT
#2135


anyone?
As a zerg player im sad to see nestea lose, but as a casual protoss player I was happy to see so many archons and a mothership being put to good use in a gsl game.
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
February 26 2011 16:06 GMT
#2136
Couldn't nestea have won with Hydras in the midgame? San had mass Stalkers and was nowhere near Colossus tech, and I feel like he could've hit a timing before Storm and Amulet was done. The mutas did contain San but they never did any damage.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
February 26 2011 16:06 GMT
#2137
At least we'll see them in TSL3 !
Schmexi
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden341 Posts
February 26 2011 16:11 GMT
#2138
Missed the stream, checked the results. My mind is blown, total liquibet disaster.
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
February 26 2011 16:14 GMT
#2139
What if 1.3 hits before GSL finals? :O
damn i hate this format.
@ggmonx
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
February 26 2011 16:17 GMT
#2140
On February 26 2011 19:11 Lobo2me wrote:
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On February 26 2011 19:08 shannn wrote:
So far the only ex-champion that actually made it to ro16 so far is MC with only FD left. The other 2 NesTea and MVP both demoted to up and down matches will make this an easier path for MC to take this season :D This season was truly a slaughter of champions.

On the other hand this is probably the best time for someone like Jinro to take it without fearing NesTea AND MVP. Only obstacle is MC in the ro8 when Jinro wins his ro16 (I'm sure of it!).

Jinro can quite possibly get an all protoss path up to the finals. Hongun in RO16, MC in RO8, San in RO4 if the stars align.


If the stars align? He's said that TvP is his weakest matchup, and that the new maps favour P
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