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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
January 19 2011 11:34 GMT
#4201
Jinro better not lose to this kind of play or i'm going to be dissapointed . You would think that a player of Nada's experience would play more defensive and draw out the game against this kind of player . Just play safe and slowly kill the opponent with siege tanks . You don't need that much minerals when you already have 2 fully saturated bases you use scans to determine your opponents's army whereabouts . Using scans sensor towers and any meens of scouting that you can do and reacting base on the information is how you learn to play TvT . This is the basic that i learned from watching BW pros . Also if your army is much more immobile then your enemies you make sure to have stationary defences set up at key locations .
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
January 19 2011 11:34 GMT
#4202
ive been trying to restrain myself from posting but seriously guys how the fuck is MKP suddenly a mastermind now and nada an idiot? i hardly knew what was going on and i had complete vision of the map.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 19 2011 11:35 GMT
#4203
I really don't understand how a progamer like Nada can constantly botch sieging his tanks the way he did.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
January 19 2011 11:35 GMT
#4204
So 3 Terran and a Zerg which seems to be a familiar trend in GSL1,2 and this one.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 11:37:24
January 19 2011 11:35 GMT
#4205
On January 19 2011 20:32 ondik wrote:
NaDa played SO bad that it really made me rage just throwing the games away without any motivation to advance to semis (or so it seemed). Any decent player (not saying he's not decent but just didn't care or i don't know) would have won in his position in game 1 and most definitely in game 3. I really don't think MKP's style has any potential in future when players learn to counter it properly as NaDa was able to get in commanding lead in games 1 and 3 fairly easily and I believe Jinro has good chance to advance to finals.


NaDa admitted that he barely trains, I think he just didnt have enough experience of those situations and didnt played them well.

But yea I don't think MKP's style is really good, definitly have some huge weaknesses.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 11:37:05
January 19 2011 11:36 GMT
#4206
On January 19 2011 20:32 Senx wrote:
Yeah Jinro can't go into the MKP series thinking it'll be a standard macro game, prepare for base trades and have a mobile army to counter his. If jinro does use siege tanks, hes gotta use them extremely carefully or MKP will just straight up stomp him.

Its gonna be hard, his style is very hard to beat, You either have to play the same style and do it better or play a flawless siege tank/marine comp which is alot less forgiving than pure bio.


Well I think their Ro16 tells a lot. Jinro had a firm grasp on what was happening but made a similar mistake to Nada. That mistake cost him the game. If he does similar thing but doesn't do same mistake I think he can take the series.

On January 19 2011 20:35 Holgerius wrote:
I really don't understand how a progamer like Nada can constantly botch sieging his tanks the way he did.


From the word on the street, he hardly plays SC2. He's busy with his studies and just plays every now and then. He looked very rusty today.
ZeNd0kUn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States331 Posts
January 19 2011 11:36 GMT
#4207
Nada's main mistake in both game 1 and 3 is ............. he didn't lift his stuff fast enough and couldn't ninja as efficiently as Marine King.
"Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment." - Jesus
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 11:41:11
January 19 2011 11:36 GMT
#4208
On January 19 2011 20:32 ondik wrote:
NaDa played SO bad that it really made me rage just throwing the games away without any motivation to advance to semis (or so it seemed). Any decent player (not saying he's not decent but just didn't care or i don't know) would have won in his position in game 1 and most definitely in game 3. I really don't think MKP's style has any potential in future when players learn to counter it properly as NaDa was able to get in commanding lead in games 1 and 3 fairly easily and I believe Jinro has good chance to advance to finals.


Sorry, but base trading against a mobile army is asking for trouble (and we see other players make mistakes against MKP so many times. So far the best way to counter MKP has been shown to be to do the exact same style only superior.)

edit2: Mind you Jinro knows his stuff as well. I'm sure the games are going to be very entertaining.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
January 19 2011 11:36 GMT
#4209
On January 19 2011 20:30 Garnet wrote:
If two Terran get into the finals, maybe we'll finally have a Terran champion.


Haha I love the "maybe".
After the finals are played for some reason both end up being second.
RaiderRob
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands377 Posts
January 19 2011 11:36 GMT
#4210
On January 19 2011 20:35 shannn wrote:
So 3 Terran and a Zerg which seems to be a familiar trend in GSL1,2 and this one.


I guess we can give NesTea the award than, no point in playing the last matches
People don't want freedom but fair leadership
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
January 19 2011 11:36 GMT
#4211
On January 19 2011 20:34 CryMeAReaper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:30 Domination wrote:
On January 19 2011 20:28 CryMeAReaper wrote:
On January 19 2011 20:22 Pewt wrote:
On January 19 2011 20:20 On_Slaught wrote:
Has MKP made a unit other than marines, medivacs and the occasional marauder yet in TvT?

Gameplanning for him should be so easy for Jinro. How did he beat jinro in the ro16? Marines and medivacs.

He made plenty of siege tanks against Jinro. He is usually MMM heavy with the occasional siege tank and/or viking.


Has Jinro made a unit other than MMMVT and the occasional viking yet in tvt?

Gameplanning for him should be easy for MarineKing. How did he lose to MKP in the ro16? Getting outplayed and outmicroed.

Its just the units comps for the different style. dont hate cus ur nadas fanboi, plox

Actually against marineking he went refinery before barracks into hellion and banshee harass.


oh yeah i meant banshee. but that wasnt my point i see SC2 as alot like chess, but easier to play, more fun to watch and more dynamic. jinro is slow and "does everything right" in a dull pace, while MKP play is tempo based and is all about micro, catching you out of position etc. now the marine is obviously the perfect answer to the way of playing MKP has. it's just annoying that people complain before they think. do u want him to play this way with tanks, vikings and MMM? no, that would be quite horrible.


QFT. All the complaints are rubbish. GSL has only been exciting when we see 2 massively differently styles clash. People quote Jinro vs Ensnare as an awesome game but in my eyes, it was pretty much a war of attrition and seeing many small poorly micro-ed skirmishes isn't as entertaining as seeing 2 epic styles clash with many clutch decisions and micromanagement.

And all the MK never macroes is rubbish. In all the games vs Nada he was the first to take this third.
<3 DongRaeGu <3
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
January 19 2011 11:37 GMT
#4212
mvp vs jinro wouldn't be fun at all
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
January 19 2011 11:37 GMT
#4213
On January 19 2011 20:34 ZeNd0kUn wrote:
yo guys ... do u know if the semis are bo5 or bo7?


Bo7
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
January 19 2011 11:37 GMT
#4214
On January 19 2011 20:32 ondik wrote:
NaDa played SO bad that it really made me rage just throwing the games away without any motivation to advance to semis (or so it seemed). Any decent player (not saying he's not decent but just didn't care or i don't know) would have won in his position in game 1 and most definitely in game 3. I really don't think MKP's style has any potential in future when players learn to counter it properly as NaDa was able to get in commanding lead in games 1 and 3 fairly easily and I believe Jinro has good chance to advance to finals.

nada is rich hard to get motivated. Does he even live in ogs house 24/7? I doubt it.
MC for president
gork84
Profile Joined July 2010
United States30 Posts
January 19 2011 11:37 GMT
#4215
If Jinro is going to take MKP, maybe he just needs to play the uber passive and go for that one crushing engagement with maxed armies. Obviously the tank timing pushes won't work if you don't prep for the drop/base trade, but a more passive viking/tank approach would be more feasible.
ZeNd0kUn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States331 Posts
January 19 2011 11:37 GMT
#4216
On January 19 2011 20:37 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:34 ZeNd0kUn wrote:
yo guys ... do u know if the semis are bo5 or bo7?


Bo7
thx .. that's awesome!
"Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment." - Jesus
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
January 19 2011 11:37 GMT
#4217
On January 19 2011 20:35 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:32 ondik wrote:
NaDa played SO bad that it really made me rage just throwing the games away without any motivation to advance to semis (or so it seemed). Any decent player (not saying he's not decent but just didn't care or i don't know) would have won in his position in game 1 and most definitely in game 3. I really don't think MKP's style has any potential in future when players learn to counter it properly as NaDa was able to get in commanding lead in games 1 and 3 fairly easily and I believe Jinro has good chance to advance to finals.


NaDa admitted that he barely trains, if think he just didnt have enough experience of those situations and didnt played them well.

But yea I don't think MKP's style is really good, definitly have some huge weaknesses.

im pretty sure with MKP's style, he is now the #1 base trader in tvt in the world ez
im positive he faces a vastly superior tank/marine army every single game and just side steps it and forces a base trade as the only remaining tactic

this shit is seriously ridiculous and needs to stop. eventually people are going to catch on to this
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
January 19 2011 11:38 GMT
#4218
On January 19 2011 20:31 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:30 Garnet wrote:
If two Terran get into the finals, maybe we'll finally have a Terran champion.

Nah, they'll both find a way to fail with getting the gold.

Constant draws ends up with the referees having to cancel the game. No one is declaired a winner.
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thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
January 19 2011 11:38 GMT
#4219
On January 19 2011 20:37 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:32 ondik wrote:
NaDa played SO bad that it really made me rage just throwing the games away without any motivation to advance to semis (or so it seemed). Any decent player (not saying he's not decent but just didn't care or i don't know) would have won in his position in game 1 and most definitely in game 3. I really don't think MKP's style has any potential in future when players learn to counter it properly as NaDa was able to get in commanding lead in games 1 and 3 fairly easily and I believe Jinro has good chance to advance to finals.

nada is rich hard to get motivated. Does he even live in ogs house 24/7? I doubt it.

I think his house is near the OGS house,so he doesnt go there,i think i read there somewhere
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 19 2011 11:38 GMT
#4220
Why are there two "haha"s for the poll results?

Does that mean its a good game or what?
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