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LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
January 19 2011 11:29 GMT
#4161
On January 19 2011 20:26 Pulimuli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:15 KonohaFlash wrote:
So are people going to keep saying MarineKing isn't better than NaDa still?


did you even watch the games? NaDa should have won game 1 and 3 easily, just stupid mistakes, has nothing to do with MarineKing's skill

But its oftenly the one who does the least mistakes that wins...no?
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
January 19 2011 11:29 GMT
#4162
On January 19 2011 20:27 branflakes14 wrote:
Code A Ro4:

TTTT

Code S Ro4:

TTTZ

Fuck everything.


Lol didn't even notice that.

Watch the Z end up winning again (tho with these 3 terrans that is asking a lot).
EzCheeze
Profile Joined November 2010
United States81 Posts
January 19 2011 11:29 GMT
#4163
On January 19 2011 20:27 branflakes14 wrote:
Code A Ro4:

TTTT

Code S Ro4:

TTTZ

Fuck everything.


why u mad bro everyone knows Z is op! buff mules.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
January 19 2011 11:29 GMT
#4164
On January 19 2011 20:17 Node wrote:
Well, if it's any consolation for those games, I think Jinro definitely has the capability to stomp MKP.


Foxer used superior mobility and strategy to beat Jinro's marine + tank push in the round of 16 ( was it round of 16? ) .
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
January 19 2011 11:29 GMT
#4165
On January 19 2011 20:27 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:22 starfries wrote:
MKP's style really shouldn't be working, but somehow he's pulling wins out of his ass with micro and decision making... I love it


His style is actually quite strong. The base trades are a key part of his strategy (whether he knows it or not). He basically exploits the immobility of tank + marine as Artosis said, except that because he's Terran and not Zerg or Protoss, he has the ability to come back from base races.

The correct way to play against him is to play defensively. You cannot match his mobility but you can treat his marine medivac forces like mutalisks and aim for the late-game, when you can defend and push at the same time with a 200/200 army. This is not easy however as marines do not have an easy counter like Thors. You basically have to be on the watch for his forces all the time and build some vikings to snipe his medivacs when you can.


If you let a Terran take the map the way a Zerg will then you're boned. If he gets the gold and you don't the difference in economy will be huge
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
January 19 2011 11:29 GMT
#4166
MKP's got the advantage of having only had to prepare TvTs for the last 2 sets. So his TvT will be getting pretty solid. And since there's only one zerg left, finals looking like a TvT too. Marine King has the chance to take this.

I'm hoping MVP and MKP go through. Fightit out for the first GSL Terran and for the title of best Terran!
<3 DongRaeGu <3
Ghorgh
Profile Joined September 2010
170 Posts
January 19 2011 11:29 GMT
#4167
Jinro, please prepare for base trades and you should be fine.
DiiShen
Profile Joined September 2010
United States56 Posts
January 19 2011 11:29 GMT
#4168
MOAR MARINES!!!
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 19 2011 11:29 GMT
#4169
On January 19 2011 20:27 branflakes14 wrote:
Code A Ro4:

TTTT

Code S Ro4:

TTTZ

Fuck everything.



Haha, yeah, the race mixture leaves something to be desired...
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Dubes
Profile Joined August 2010
United States327 Posts
January 19 2011 11:29 GMT
#4170
On January 19 2011 20:27 hellsan631 wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen, i present to you, the biggest thing to happen in the GSL.

John wears a suit!

[image loading]


Shocking.. The universe may in fact be imploding
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
January 19 2011 11:29 GMT
#4171
On January 19 2011 20:27 branflakes14 wrote:
Code A Ro4:

TTTT

Code S Ro4:

TTTZ

Fuck everything.


Dont forget IEM TTTTTTTTTTPP
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
January 19 2011 11:30 GMT
#4172
On January 19 2011 20:28 CryMeAReaper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:22 Pewt wrote:
On January 19 2011 20:20 On_Slaught wrote:
Has MKP made a unit other than marines, medivacs and the occasional marauder yet in TvT?

Gameplanning for him should be so easy for Jinro. How did he beat jinro in the ro16? Marines and medivacs.

He made plenty of siege tanks against Jinro. He is usually MMM heavy with the occasional siege tank and/or viking.


Has Jinro made a unit other than MMMVT and the occasional viking yet in tvt?

Gameplanning for him should be easy for MarineKing. How did he lose to MKP in the ro16? Getting outplayed and outmicroed.

Its just the units comps for the different style. dont hate cus ur nadas fanboi, plox

Actually against marineking he went refinery before barracks into hellion and banshee harass.
Savant
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States379 Posts
January 19 2011 11:30 GMT
#4173
Nada was way out of his comfort zone today. You can see he was floundering and made bad decisions when he had the ball in a base elimination. If anything his failure to lift his cc's early was a huge blunder, since MKP always had that card while Nada didn't.
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
January 19 2011 11:30 GMT
#4174
On January 19 2011 20:28 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:27 Holgerius wrote:
On January 19 2011 20:25 jalstar wrote:
On January 19 2011 20:23 Holgerius wrote:
On January 19 2011 20:21 jalstar wrote:
On January 19 2011 20:18 Holgerius wrote:
Foxer 100% deserved to win that series due to Nada's depressingly bad decision making, but I really don't think his style is good at all. A competent Terran should smash him.


Explain how he's 24-7 in TvTs then. What Terrans hasn't he played anyway? Ensnare? Slayers_Boxer?

It's sort of like when Kwanro got results for a while in BW, knocking out people like Flash from Starleagues. Once they figure this out, he'll have to stop playing like this.


Nah, it's more like people complaining about Savior going 3 hatch muta all the time.

I don't think so. I feel quite certain that Foxer will not get away with making pure marines in TvT for much longer.


People have been saying that since November

Yeah, every time MarineKing wins a set one of the commentators questions how much longer he can keep winning sets.

I hope he sticks around for a lot longer because I'm never more entertained by a GSL match than when he's playing.
High five :---)
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9027 Posts
January 19 2011 11:30 GMT
#4175
If two Terran get into the finals, maybe we'll finally have a Terran champion.
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
January 19 2011 11:30 GMT
#4176
On January 19 2011 20:28 noD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:27 branflakes14 wrote:
Code A Ro4:

TTTT

Code S Ro4:

TTTZ

Fuck everything.


like it wasnt tttz on season 1 and 2 ....

Sorry I thought we were still with protoss is OP I didnt get the memo.


When will people stop crying and just enjoy the games.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
January 19 2011 11:30 GMT
#4177
On January 19 2011 20:28 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:27 Holgerius wrote:
On January 19 2011 20:25 jalstar wrote:
On January 19 2011 20:23 Holgerius wrote:
On January 19 2011 20:21 jalstar wrote:
On January 19 2011 20:18 Holgerius wrote:
Foxer 100% deserved to win that series due to Nada's depressingly bad decision making, but I really don't think his style is good at all. A competent Terran should smash him.


Explain how he's 24-7 in TvTs then. What Terrans hasn't he played anyway? Ensnare? Slayers_Boxer?

It's sort of like when Kwanro got results for a while in BW, knocking out people like Flash from Starleagues. Once they figure this out, he'll have to stop playing like this.


Nah, it's more like people complaining about Savior going 3 hatch muta all the time.

I don't think so. I feel quite certain that Foxer will not get away with making pure marines in TvT for much longer.


People have been saying that since November


Nada was in a better position in both game 1 and game 3, so yeah I truly think that his "build" was better. However, he handled those situations pretty poorly, which is surely related to the fact that he doesnt play a lot.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 11:32:24
January 19 2011 11:30 GMT
#4178
On January 19 2011 20:29 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:27 Azarkon wrote:
On January 19 2011 20:22 starfries wrote:
MKP's style really shouldn't be working, but somehow he's pulling wins out of his ass with micro and decision making... I love it


His style is actually quite strong. The base trades are a key part of his strategy (whether he knows it or not). He basically exploits the immobility of tank + marine as Artosis said, except that because he's Terran and not Zerg or Protoss, he has the ability to come back from base races.

The correct way to play against him is to play defensively. You cannot match his mobility but you can treat his marine medivac forces like mutalisks and aim for the late-game, when you can defend and push at the same time with a 200/200 army. This is not easy however as marines do not have an easy counter like Thors. You basically have to be on the watch for his forces all the time and build some vikings to snipe his medivacs when you can.


If you let a Terran take the map the way a Zerg will then you're boned. If he gets the gold and you don't the difference in economy will be huge


On certain maps, his strategy is probably the optimal one.

On others, you can likely take your gold as well with siege tanks and bunkers.

Also, if you do base trade, which you can because you have the better army, be prepared to turtle at the gold once it's done.
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
January 19 2011 11:31 GMT
#4179
WOuldnt blue flame hellions just wreck MKP's strategy?
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
January 19 2011 11:31 GMT
#4180
Jinro needs to do some major theory crafting on base trade scenarios before this match.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
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