EPTMVP deserved the win, though I don't necessarily believe that he is a much better player. Tester didn't try a different strat after MVP proved that his 1 base play was strong enough to beat his FE. lame series to watch.
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SolidZeal
United States393 Posts
MVP deserved the win, though I don't necessarily believe that he is a much better player. Tester didn't try a different strat after MVP proved that his 1 base play was strong enough to beat his FE. lame series to watch. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On January 17 2011 20:17 osten wrote: Fun matches today, a little technical difficulties both with the stream and games but what is the deal with Tastosis feeling the urge to call the game too early. Several times today and it's like it's growing. They never focus on what is happening in a battle, there's 90% almost always Artosis saying he will win...... No the other guy will win..... No he will win... yeah... No the other guy.. All these exciting swings is why starcraft is fun, but it's being thrown away I think because we don't need a horoscope. Nobody will ever surpass these commentators but there are things to improve. You complained about it earlier in the thread and you still feel the need to repeat yourself? Really? | ||
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cordlc
United States360 Posts
Anyway, these games weren't unlike what happened with MC vs Jinro in GSL3. One player (Jinro / Tester) constantly trying their best to fast-expand, while the other keeps mercilessly crushing it with a build designed for that purpose. Tester looked like a noob in G3, maybe, but so did Jinro in G1 in his match against MC. Using risky builds doesn't mean they suck, it just means they were unprepared. I'll still be watching Tester closely for the next GSL, he's probably still the 2nd best protoss in my eyes. On another note, the IM guys are looking freaking unstoppable. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On January 17 2011 20:14 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Unfortunately I am starting agree a bit. I haven't been posting for terribly long, but the snowball of derailment or people not necessarily thinking through their comments as been on the up tick as of late. Hopefully its just a minor bump. Helps to click report (or PM a mod if it's seriously ludicrous and you can't report) if you see someone taking the train off the tracks. Honestly, I feel like this is one of the better LR threads tonight. Only a few whines and mostly people not taking the bait! The games were a bit of a letdown but the play was impressive nonetheless. Countering the mass sentry forcefielding with defensive medivac-marauder lifts? I liked it! | ||
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Providence
United States125 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On January 17 2011 20:06 magha wrote: Has there ever been a Zerg who beat MVP in a bo5? Nestea vs MVP is gonna be interesting :D Actualy, they faced in a bo5 last week in Gainward tourney finals, Nestea allined each game (and lost 0-3 iirc) | ||
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wopaahh
150 Posts
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palookieblue
Australia326 Posts
On January 17 2011 20:17 ftd.rain wrote: We should all just pretend that massing MM and pulling scvs is impressive and skillful from now on, you know, for the sake of the game. BitByBit does this. You think he would have beaten Tester 3-0? Stop trolling the LR thread for goodness' sakes. Or at least for the 'sake of the game'. | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On January 17 2011 20:17 traca wrote: ridiculously high level play that s what you get for designing a game based on hard counter play Yes I can't believe Blizzard decided marines and marauders in a bunker should hard counter probes and a nexus. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On January 17 2011 20:16 Greentellon wrote: I usually go early void ray + 2/3gate preassure on the terran. Granted I'm not masters but if terran tries to do any cute stuff that void ray attack simply destroys him. Gives you enough time to build robo afterwards/during attack and observers and expand maybe, even if attack is repelled. That's what I do usually. If terran tried to do too many marauders/hellions to all-in on you, void rays would simply destroy that army. Ok, now you have forced terran to do anti air stuff. The whole game is now different. Terrran can't just do huge marauder balls versus you now, but can he do huge marine balls either? Guardian shield + 1 base armor from protoss armies = 1/2 dmg from marines. Much more even playfield now. Or that's how I have figured it out. I see. So it sounds like you have to be the one to be aggressive or you'll just get destroyed. It's true that I've seen most Ps win a PvT with a crisp Stargate/3gate timing attack. On the other hand, I've hardly ever seen Ps defend against a Marauder/Raven timing attack of several variants (such as the one with Siege Tanks and Banshees that killed Genius in GSL2, or the blue flame Helion one that just now killed Tester). Incidentally, both of them FE'd. It seems like the ideal path for a Protoss to go down is to go Stargate + 2/3 gate pressure to absolutely keep a terran from doing one of those scary timing attacks to you, then expand. FEing in PvT is just asking for death. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
On January 17 2011 20:16 Providence wrote: WhiteRa was one of the pioneers of stargate against Terran. Opting to go for relatively quick voidrays to force a lot of marines, then tech switching to chargelot/HTs to punish it. Again, Reps/VODs? I've seen this style, though not from him...and ages ago. I watched many games from homestorycup and didn't see him go for stargate vs T once, but I didn't see all his games. @ admins: I hope you are ok with this discussion since the LR is over.....if not I'm sorry | ||
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Providence
United States125 Posts
On January 17 2011 20:19 cordlc wrote: Damn, that was painful to watch. And with that, my dream Tester v Idra finals have been shattered~ Anyway, these games weren't unlike what happened with MC vs Jinro in GSL3. One player (Jinro / Tester) constantly trying their best to fast-expand, while the other keeps mercilessly crushing it with a build designed for that purpose. Tester looked like a noob in G3, maybe, but so did Jinro in G1 in his match against MC. Using risky builds doesn't mean they suck, it just means they were unprepared. I'll still be watching Tester closely for the next GSL, he's probably still the 2nd best protoss in my eyes. On another note, the IM guys are looking freaking unstoppable. I'm assuming you meant MC v Jinro in season 3? Cause that was nothing like MC v Jinro in this season :o | ||
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dormer
United States1314 Posts
On January 17 2011 20:17 ftd.rain wrote: We should all just pretend that massing MM and pulling scvs is impressive and skillful from now on, you know, for the sake of the game. MVP used a lot more than marine / marauder / SCV, so don't see your point. He did rush early in the first two games, but against a FE protoss, that isn't such a bad idea, apparently, since he completely rolled through Tester. | ||
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
On January 17 2011 20:19 Providence wrote: The maps will most likely play an important role but other then that I really don't know. I like the both of them equally but since there can only be one winner I'm going to go with MVP.So what do you guys think--Nestea or MVP? Both have noted in the interviews as thinking the other is going to win, which I think is quite cool and cute :D | ||
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elliminist
Japan121 Posts
On January 17 2011 20:18 Gecko wrote: i definitely feel like the reason no toss are in the RO4 is more of the players failing than the race failing. Tester lost to 3 attacks he might of been able to defend or at least salvage, choya just all-in's. On the flip side MC played well but he was in the group of death with foxer and jinro. I thought the group of death was more because of MC was in it, than because of Foxer and Jinro in it... Though its amusing that Ro16, Foxer assumes MC will win undisputedly so only focuses on TvT, hence securing his seat in the Ro8. Then Jinro goes OptimusPrime (Mech) on MC twice in a row. MC got metagamed those two matches | ||
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Moragon
United States355 Posts
On January 17 2011 20:16 Scorch wrote: Wow MVP, that was a nice showing. 3-0'ing Tester is no small feat. This reinforces MVP as the favorite to win the tournament. Sure MVP has gotten the most hype but MVP, Nestea, and Marineking all have gone untested so far. | ||
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opis
Sweden17 Posts
On January 17 2011 20:18 Elefanto wrote: Yeah, 1 base play is interesting to watch. : | They start on one base? That's like saying it is boring to watch them build workers in the start. It's part of the game. You should earn your second expand, or take a high risk expanding which, if done blindly, should be easily punishable imo. Makes all the sense in the world. You can't claim a chess game is boring because it is the same pieces every time :| | ||
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ftd.rain
United Kingdom539 Posts
On January 17 2011 20:21 palookieblue wrote: BitByBit does this. You think he would have beaten Tester 3-0? Stop trolling the LR thread for goodness' sakes. Or at least for the 'sake of the game'. Bitbybit?Probably not. TSL_Rain/Jinro/MK/Clide/ETC.?100%. | ||
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CooDu
Australia899 Posts
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imJealous
United States1382 Posts
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