EPT[GSL] Code S Ro8: Day 1 - Page 96
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WniO
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chaosdarkprince
Ecuador52 Posts
On January 19 2011 05:28 PrinceXizor wrote: ...SC2 is a much more mental game than SC1, while SC1 was so heavily invested in knowledge of the game, preparation and raw skill, SC2 is more invested in split second decision making, intelligence, and ability to understand as much as possible about the game... ...(note: this in NO way implies that SC1 pros are stupid,only that SC2 is much more mental than sc1, and that the players at the top of SC1 are at the top because they exhibit all of the categories i mentioned, where low-mid level pros in sc1 may lack in the second categories similar to how low-mid level pros in sc2 lack in the first categories Knowledge of the game=NOT ability to understand as much as possible about the game???? preparation=NOT split decision making (which is acquired by experience or PREPARATION)???? mmmm both games require any ability as much as the other... no point in making those statements... Tester needs to get better, that's all, it has nothing to do with SC1 or SC2, and actually it has to do with the fact that he played the currently strongest terran in game (by words of MarineKing himself)... EDIT: -in fact many people argue that scouting is more important in SC1 than in SC2 and viceversa- so both games are arguably mental (for more reference check Jaedong vs Flash games in which they do not display RAW power, but mental games and complex strategies- well, that's all, nothing against you pal... | ||
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Geovu
Estonia1344 Posts
On January 19 2011 10:13 news wrote: I will wait until I see it. Don't put Huk on the same page with MC please. It is comical to me. Also just to let you guys know. Huk was a C/C+ level player tops on bw with sub par mechanics. He was good at microing things and playing ums maps but that's about it. What does it tell me? He will hit his ceiling mechanically very soon. His potential beyond what we've seen is fairly low. If you played bw for many years and weren't able to overcome some basic challenges you won't be able to claim a top spot on sc2 once it develops into a complex enough game for those differences to matter. SC2 mechanics are so much easier, streamlined and simple compared to BW that it is laughable. Mechanics were the thing that set most Korean pros from the Foreigner "pros". Even if HuK 'was not capable of overcoming BW's mechanics', that doesn't really mean that much. I see more impressive play from ladder games on the NA server than I see from some games in the Korean dominated GSL from BW pros (Choya vs MVP Ro8 anyone? I heard making nothing but zealots and stalkers off 2 bases for 20 minutes is a good talent toi have. Every HongUn game I watch makes me facepalm, not sure if he was from BW though. I used to be a massive Tester fan but after watching his games against MVP I have to say I am disappoint. I can keep going if you want.) If you think HuK doesn't deserve to be in the GSL because he wasn't the best mechanically in a 12 year old game with quite frankly terrible UI then I do not see where you are coming from when he is 1000000X more impressive than most Koreans I see. Jinro was not even a pro in BW but look at how far he has gotten, getting that deep into the GSL twice in a row is something Fruitdealer can't even accomplish, again a former BW pro. | ||
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news
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I didn't say Huk is not worthy of playing in GSL, he is not going to go far - that's all. Same story with TLO, doesn't matter how innovative and good he was during early days of sc2, now it is getting to the point where players' mechanics start to matter more. And not understanding this hurts your logic. Sc2 will be just as demanding as bw was once the level of competitions gets there. So there is a world of difference between someone like MVP and someone like Choya. Also you don't know much about how these guys prepare, some of them take it seriously, some - not so much. Still, Huk might play 12 hours a day for a year and still be nowhere near them in terms of skill. Because some of those guys played bw 12 hours a day for 8-12 years vs the best competition. To your comment about Huk being more impressive than 'some of those koreans' - I feel sorry for your inability to see the difference. You will only start understanding it once you get better yourself. | ||
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Geovu
Estonia1344 Posts
On January 19 2011 16:06 news wrote: To your comment about Huk being more impressive than 'some of those koreans' - I feel sorry for your inability to see the difference. You will only start understanding it once you get better yourself. If you 'feel sorry for me' then please actually attempt to explain to me how HuK fundamentally is incapable of becoming a top player. When I see Tester fast expand after gate and before core and then be completely unable to hold off a banshee raven all in that has been incredibly popular on that map since season 1, I cannot honestly say this is at all impressive. I also do not see where you are coming from by saying that HuK will be incapable of keeping up after the game develops more. SC2 will not ever be as mechanically intensive as BW ever was, that is simply impossible. You also assume for some reason that he cannot improve his mechanics over time to compensate for any changes in the way people play SC2, which is again untrue. | ||
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