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boaecho
Profile Joined December 2009
United States124 Posts
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3721
On December 18 2010 20:08 Deadlyfish wrote:
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On December 18 2010 20:08 IMBAkorean wrote:
horribad song ugh


WHAT!?! Best. Song. Ever.



hoot is a horrible song; their old stuff is much better
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3722
On December 18 2010 20:01 andrewwiggin wrote:
Rain was horrible.

Goddamn HORRIBLE.


Now..where are all those noobs who thought he was great again?


MC microed to kill the mules as well. Very smart.




User was temp banned for this post.



I love you plexa! xD

I loved that zealot control from MC! it was really well microed, so many SCV kills for a relatively few zealots, I dont understand the decision to get a marauder from rain tho
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3723
On December 18 2010 20:04 KonohaFlash wrote:
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On December 18 2010 20:01 canikizu wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:59 Kinky wrote:
Why did Rain make a marauder instead of a reaper -_-

Because that's how you counter rush zealots. Following up zealot will always be stalkers. You need to get gas, then get marauders and concussive shell to kite zealots and stalkers. Terran don't have that much gas to produce reapers.


lol no. Tech lab+ marauder build time= 4-5 zealots. no way you're going to be able to kite stalkers and zealots. Best way is to bunker up and continue pumping marines and get a second rax.

That's how SEA Terran counter P zealot cheese. Of course you need the bunkers too. I didn't say T don't need it. After having a tech lab and get marauder, if you have enough money, make a second rax. You don't get second rax just to produce marines because follow-up stalkers will just kite them to hell.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3724
On December 18 2010 20:08 applejuice wrote:
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On December 18 2010 20:03 DoXa wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:02 coddan wrote:
TL.net reaction when Rain cheeses: that fucking noob, opponent X is so much better, how dare he?

TL.net reaction when oGsMC cheeses: so good strat, gosu micro, rain is so bad


difference: first was almost always an all-in with every SCV
this one was far away from being an all-in



uh, it's about as all-in possible. It's a freakin proxy inside your opponent's base. Since you have not played SC2 before, let me explain to you that if this fails, it's a GG x 10.


it's still no allin

i have seen a proxy gate go into a regular game by the protoss many times...
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3725
On December 18 2010 20:03 HiHiByeBye wrote:
Tasteless and artosis just explained how you can use SCV to kill pylon.

one of you noobs who bash on rain tell me how to stop that rush? please

No hate here, but I'd rather place that 1 bunker a bit inside the mineral line(like 1-2 squares further back), put another on the other side, skip gas and pump rines. proxy gates are always hell to deal with, but tbh going gas like that was a very... stupid decision. MC was obviously cutting probes, better just work on fully saturating your base, get a ball of rines up and push out towards the gates. MC obviously did very well with that cheese though.
robin19999
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands246 Posts
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3726
On December 18 2010 20:07 hidiliho wrote:
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On December 18 2010 20:06 traca wrote:
MC wasn't all in just saying


True... I would call that a Maka Gate lol


It would be a make gate if the gate was in the mineral line
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 11:10:27
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3727
Marauders were the right choice against single gate. If it was double-gate, he wouldn't have gotten gas. He needed marauders to fight incoming stalkers. He just lost way too many scvs to zealots. , Imo, Rain should have attacked the gate, with scvs. 8gate is a huge investment (I think that's what Tasteless said this was), and forcing a cancel on the only gateway being made probably could have won the game.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3728
On December 18 2010 20:05 SrJoSeZ wrote:
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On December 18 2010 20:03 ArtOfRandom wrote:
god im sick of people who watch the game more than they play it, its acutally an extremely strong proxy on steppes of war because the zealots dont care about early marines. they can just target scvs and delay/stop mining while gaining the advantage. almost all of you non-players talking down about rain would have lost to it as well


+1000000000000000


no. its hard to stop if you get somewhat surprised by it. not when you scout it at 8-9supply. if his bunker wasnt placed so completly shitty and didnt go for a totally useless gas to get a marauder stopping all marine production he couldve defended it easily.


bunker placement was stupid and it lost him the game. you can cover evrything with one bunker. he failed to do that. he deserves to lose in the embarrassing way he did.


people are hating abit to much in this thread ya. but this was just terrible.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
ThePieRate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States263 Posts
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3729
On December 18 2010 20:07 Roggay wrote:
Stop saying that we love MC cheeses but not rain, this is getting annoying really fast. No-one ever said MC is a genius for his cheese, we just said rain failed pretty hard.


He cheesed someone out of a tournament who is obviously better than him. I don't see why you cant grasp this.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 18 2010 11:10 GMT
#3730
Attacking the pylon is the worst thing you could possibly do, but I'm not convinced that killing the gates is. It was great in BW. Don't know enough about SC2 to say whether or not it really works in SC2 though.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 11:10:25
December 18 2010 11:10 GMT
#3731
On December 18 2010 20:09 robin19999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:07 hidiliho wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:06 traca wrote:
MC wasn't all in just saying


True... I would call that a Maka Gate lol


It would be a make gate if the gate was in the mineral line


MakaPylon then

pylon in the natural that gets scouted instantly!
Kevmeister @ Dota2
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
December 18 2010 11:10 GMT
#3732
On December 18 2010 20:08 applejuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:03 DoXa wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:02 coddan wrote:
TL.net reaction when Rain cheeses: that fucking noob, opponent X is so much better, how dare he?

TL.net reaction when oGsMC cheeses: so good strat, gosu micro, rain is so bad


difference: first was almost always an all-in with every SCV
this one was far away from being an all-in



uh, it's about as all-in possible. It's a freakin proxy inside your opponent's base. Since you have not played SC2 before, let me explain to you that if this fails, it's a GG x 10.


MakaGate!
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
December 18 2010 11:10 GMT
#3733
On December 18 2010 20:09 Mellotron wrote:
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On December 18 2010 20:07 mizU wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:06 SmoKim wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:03 McDonalds wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:58 Ghostcom wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:56 Holgerius wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:54 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:52 Holgerius wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:51 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:48 Mellotron wrote:
Its really really baffling how people can actually like this music. Its borderline formless. The form that is there is entry level compositional technique, and there is barely any clever rhyme or modulation. Its like a massive drone of amateur harmony and melody with predictable cliche changes and high/low points. Stuff like this really proves that if you just make something sound artificially busy that people will be into it. Just like how burger king commercials never let the camera stay still etc.


its catchy and fun.

unlike tons of western popmusic which is 99% downright crap(POPOPOPPOPOKERFACE)

dont be so serious about it.


also sometimes "bad" and simple stuff can be very good.look at vybz kartel in the dancehall scene. mostly super simple and dumb music but sooooo freakin catchy cause the guy has some magic.

Modern music in general is crap.



cant say that. there is tons of amazing stuff out there in pretty much all genres. just most of it isnt what you see on tv.

Not in my opinion. Music reached it's peak almost 300 years ago and it's been going downhill ever since.


Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones...

Now, let's keep this thread about the match huh?

I like how you compared two of the most overrated bands of all time to the baroque era.


i like how you called 2 of the most influencial and important bands in history overrated


Subjectivity vs. objectivity. hmmm...


Subjectivity vs objectivity doesnt exist when examining parallel construction in strong writing.


are you expecting people to know what youre talking about or do you get off on sounding like a douchebag
http://www.twitch.tv/corpsep0se
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 18 2010 11:10 GMT
#3734
Wow, LR thread these days is a complete disaster. Sad sad sad
Terran
Iamyournoob
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany595 Posts
December 18 2010 11:10 GMT
#3735
I am so glad to see our Protoss-Hero probably taking it. I am glad it is no 4-0 and for entertainment's sake I hope Rain will win the next map!
greycubed
Profile Joined May 2010
United States615 Posts
December 18 2010 11:10 GMT
#3736
Filler time to actual gameplay time ratio: 3:1.

Christ this GSL sucks.
http://i.imgur.com/N3ujB.png
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
December 18 2010 11:10 GMT
#3737
On December 18 2010 20:03 ArtOfRandom wrote:
god im sick of people who watch the game more than they play it, its acutally an extremely strong proxy on steppes of war because the zealots dont care about early marines. they can just target scvs and delay/stop mining while gaining the advantage. almost all of you non-players talking down about rain would have lost to it as well


exactly.

steppes is an auto lose to toss really since terran really outnumber toss's army in early game and FF is not the answer. not saying that Rain played like sh!t, but the gas mining, bunker position and the marauder were terrible decision.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
December 18 2010 11:10 GMT
#3738
On December 18 2010 20:09 SushilS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:06 Holgerius wrote:
I'm crap at SC2, but in BW SCVs pulled to kill in-base proxys worked like a charm.

This is absolutely true! PULL SCVS-> Kill PROBE->Kill Pylon-> Make reaver to kite zealot->Profit!


reavers are from BW and require a robo with support bay. Unless you meant a Reaper, in which case it would have died very quickly to the stalker after the 3 zealots.
Mainland
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada551 Posts
December 18 2010 11:10 GMT
#3739
I think if he built the barracks right next to the gateway, all Rain would need is to start a bunker and an engineering bay or another barracks to completely wall-in that gateway. Then that gateway would be useless until warpgate is research.
tg4u
Profile Joined January 2007
Bulgaria125 Posts
December 18 2010 11:10 GMT
#3740
On December 18 2010 20:09 SushilS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:06 Holgerius wrote:
I'm crap at SC2, but in BW SCVs pulled to kill in-base proxys worked like a charm.

This is absolutely true! PULL SCVS-> Kill PROBE->Kill Pylon-> Make reaver to kite zealot->Profit!


what are you talking about?
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