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legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
December 18 2010 11:06 GMT
#3681
I will be lol'ing at the future Recap. Rain will get a C+ for going out 4 - 1 against MC with at least two good long games, when Jinro got a B for rolling over and dying. At least, Rain put up a fight. As a side note, MC's game looks a little less solid than on the semis with MarineKing, some of the B.O. were kind of strange.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
vylant
Profile Joined September 2010
United States33 Posts
December 18 2010 11:06 GMT
#3682
On December 18 2010 20:02 coddan wrote:
TL.net reaction when Rain cheeses: that fucking noob, opponent X is so much better, how dare he?

TL.net reaction when oGsMC cheeses: so good strat, gosu micro, rain is so bad


This is spot on. This thread isn't even a discussion about the games.
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
December 18 2010 11:06 GMT
#3683
On December 18 2010 20:03 DoXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:02 coddan wrote:
TL.net reaction when Rain cheeses: that fucking noob, opponent X is so much better, how dare he?

TL.net reaction when oGsMC cheeses: so good strat, gosu micro, rain is so bad


difference: first was almost always an all-in with every SCV
this one was far away from being an all-in



Proxy gateway at 8 isnt an all-in but 2 barracks scv/marine attack is? I give up.

I realize that the term "all-in" doesnt mean that you lose if it doesnt work. It just means that you are so far behind that it's almost impossible to win.

Like proxy gate at 8, name a protoss build that is more "all-in"...
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 11:07:05
December 18 2010 11:06 GMT
#3684
I'm crap at SC2, but in BW SCVs pulled to kill in-base proxys worked like a charm.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 18 2010 11:06 GMT
#3685
On December 18 2010 20:03 ThePieRate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:02 Deadlyfish wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:01 andrewwiggin wrote:
Rain was horrible.

Goddamn HORRIBLE.


Now..where are all those noobs who thought he was great again?


MC microed to kill the mules as well. Very smart.




I'm just wondering, when a terran cheeses and wins he is terrible, when a protoss does it, he is brilliant and the opponent is horrible?

I dont get all this bias.


Because a 2 racks is a 1a all in. There is no micro involved really...

But thats not rain's fault. What progamer would willingly choose to use the harder strat if there's one that lets you win a good percentage of the time? People do what it takes to win, any "1a" or "easy" builds are not the players fault for using them, but on the game itself for allowing such an "easy" build. Like incontrol said on SotG, pros would do whatever it takes to win, not taking any opportunity to do so would be stupid.
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
December 18 2010 11:06 GMT
#3686
On December 18 2010 20:02 coddan wrote:
TL.net reaction when Rain cheeses: that fucking noob, opponent X is so much better, how dare he?

TL.net reaction when oGsMC cheeses: so good strat, gosu micro, rain is so bad


There are like 3 people total saying that, and they are probably all trolling you. Most of the people were butthurt Rain fans who preemptively made posts like yours.
FirstQT
Profile Joined October 2010
United States115 Posts
December 18 2010 11:06 GMT
#3687
On December 18 2010 20:04 Grummler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:00 pyro19 wrote:
Fail Proved again.
2 Scvs would have killed that pylon even before the Gateway completed.

MC just Toying with Rain.


Tastosis just explained it for all those noobs out there: You CANT destroy the pylon/gateway with scvs and come out ahead.


2 scvs would not put the terran behind. also, MC lost the probe so it would have been well worth the lost mining time and possibly being behind to take that pylon out rather than lose more economy to reinforcements
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
December 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#3688
On December 18 2010 20:04 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:02 The KY wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:01 andrewwiggin wrote:
Rain was horrible.

Goddamn HORRIBLE.


Now..where are all those noobs who thought he was great again?


MC microed to kill the mules as well. Very smart.




No one said he was great.

They said you were an idiot.

That continues to be the truth.

V. bad game by Rain.


hahahahahahaha truth be told!


Well played KY, Well played.
End my suffering
Maskedsatyr
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore1245 Posts
December 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#3689
On December 18 2010 20:03 Voros wrote:
I was considering buying a season ticket for S4, but the last few series have convinced me otherwise.

Wth? Were you watching the 2nd game that alone was enough for me to justify watching this series. Would you rather see all toss go 2 gate robo and attack only after 2+ colossus...
"Don't believe in you who believes in me, don't believe in me who believes in you, believe in you...who believes in yourself!"
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
December 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#3690
cmon rain get ur shit together wanna see more games ! ^_^
donkkk
Profile Joined December 2010
44 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 11:07:51
December 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#3691
or nvm this guy isnt worth a ban
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
December 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#3692
HOOOT!!!!!!!!!! I GET SOOO PUMPED EVERYTIME I HEAR THIS! DOES THIS MAKE ME A SONE? MAYBE. OH SHIT!!
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
December 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#3693
On December 18 2010 20:06 tdt wrote:

2. No attacking pylon w/2-3 SCVs


you've obviously never faced this kind of rush before. that is auto-loss
Powster
Profile Joined April 2010
United States650 Posts
December 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#3694
I think a lot of you dont have any idea how hard that actually is to stop since you cant make barracks until after depot..
hidiliho
Profile Joined September 2004
Canada685 Posts
December 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#3695
On December 18 2010 20:06 traca wrote:
MC wasn't all in just saying


True... I would call that a Maka Gate lol
I have a dream, that some day I wouldn't see any imba comments in GSL threads.
iEchoic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1776 Posts
December 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#3696
Okay, here's the actual best counter to this strat:

1) As soon as it's scouted, build your rax behind your mineral line.
2) Build bunker in the direct center of your mineral line.
3) Bunker now covers all your scvs, your rax, and your CC.

Don't listen to noobs saying to attack the pylon/gates with your workers, tasteless and artosis know what they're talking about.
vileEchoic -- clanvile.com
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
December 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#3697
On December 18 2010 20:06 tdt wrote:
so much rain fail

1. Gas?
2. No attacking pylon w/2-3 SCVs
3. Terrible bunker placement
4. terrible micro

Dude seriously, attacking the pylon is the worst thing you can do in this case, please stop posting crap
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
December 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#3698
On December 18 2010 20:06 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:03 McDonalds wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:58 Ghostcom wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:56 Holgerius wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:54 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:52 Holgerius wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:51 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:48 Mellotron wrote:
Its really really baffling how people can actually like this music. Its borderline formless. The form that is there is entry level compositional technique, and there is barely any clever rhyme or modulation. Its like a massive drone of amateur harmony and melody with predictable cliche changes and high/low points. Stuff like this really proves that if you just make something sound artificially busy that people will be into it. Just like how burger king commercials never let the camera stay still etc.


its catchy and fun.

unlike tons of western popmusic which is 99% downright crap(POPOPOPPOPOKERFACE)

dont be so serious about it.


also sometimes "bad" and simple stuff can be very good.look at vybz kartel in the dancehall scene. mostly super simple and dumb music but sooooo freakin catchy cause the guy has some magic.

Modern music in general is crap.



cant say that. there is tons of amazing stuff out there in pretty much all genres. just most of it isnt what you see on tv.

Not in my opinion. Music reached it's peak almost 300 years ago and it's been going downhill ever since.


Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones...

Now, let's keep this thread about the match huh?

I like how you compared two of the most overrated bands of all time to the baroque era.


i like how you called 2 of the most influencial and important bands in history overrated


Subjectivity vs. objectivity. hmmm...
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 11:08:49
December 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#3699
Stop saying that we love MC cheeses but not rain, this is getting annoying really fast. No-one ever said MC is a genius for his cheese, we just said rain failed pretty hard.
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
December 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#3700
HOOT! :D
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