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szaranowicz
Profile Joined December 2010
Benin12 Posts
December 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#3701
wtf at everyone talking pulling scvs is a waste of time becouse he can just cancel and remake LOL, that gives u time to the rax to finish and have like 2 marines and a bunker before the second gateway actually finishes >.> that moron made a gas vs 8gate LOloLOLOL seriously 1900 diamond player would handle that better
ERGO
Profile Joined October 2008
United States168 Posts
December 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#3702
On December 18 2010 20:04 Benjef wrote:
I find it funny how MC stomped Jinro so much harder but people are calling Rain complete trash even though hes holding out a lot better and even won a game... Surely that makes Jinro worse?


it will become clear as time goes on. Jinro is playing in a style that fails if you don't respond just right, but when you do finally understand the matchup you just don't die. Look at Flash for an example of that style at its peak.
Never.enough - Nicht.genug
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
December 18 2010 11:08 GMT
#3703
Despite what Artosis thinks, the only possible way Rain could have stopped that was by sending SCVs to take out the initial pylon right as he scouted it, and then building the bunker so it was in range of the gateway.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
Gorguts
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada254 Posts
December 18 2010 11:08 GMT
#3704
On December 18 2010 20:07 Powster wrote:
I think a lot of you dont have any idea how hard that actually is to stop since you cant make barracks until after depot..


It's pretty easy to stop.

/thumbs down Steppes of War
IMBAkorean
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada835 Posts
December 18 2010 11:08 GMT
#3705
horribad song ugh
RATDOTO
applejuice
Profile Joined October 2010
307 Posts
December 18 2010 11:08 GMT
#3706
On December 18 2010 20:03 DoXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:02 coddan wrote:
TL.net reaction when Rain cheeses: that fucking noob, opponent X is so much better, how dare he?

TL.net reaction when oGsMC cheeses: so good strat, gosu micro, rain is so bad


difference: first was almost always an all-in with every SCV
this one was far away from being an all-in



uh, it's about as all-in possible. It's a freakin proxy inside your opponent's base. Since you have not played SC2 before, let me explain to you that if this fails, it's a GG x 10.
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
December 18 2010 11:08 GMT
#3707
On December 18 2010 20:05 Greentellon wrote:
Why do people hate "rain cheese" and not "MC cheese": MC has yet to use same cheese strat to win 3 games in same series.

But yeah...I do not hate Rain, it's just that MC is so likable in my eyes! But Rain IS a good player, he showed that in game 2 and 3.

Im still mad at Rain for game 2. He could have easily won that game if he had pushed in, or if he had realized MC went for EVERY DAMN TECH.

Darkhallow
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland139 Posts
December 18 2010 11:08 GMT
#3708
as much as i hate seeing that kind of cheese, Rain just could have placed his buildings much better.
I think that it's just the map that courages cheese. SoW is just stupid map in every way for every race

i play toss in case anyone is wondering
The game is not about having fun; it is about stopping as many other people as you can from having fun. That’s the only thing that really matters. As well as being pro.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
December 18 2010 11:08 GMT
#3709
On December 18 2010 20:06 legaton wrote:
I will be lol'ing at the future Recap. Rain will get a C+ for going out 4 - 1 against MC with at least two good long games, when Jinro got a B for rolling over and dying. At least, Rain put up a fight. As a side note, MC's game looks a little less solid than on the semis with MarineKing, some of the B.O. were kind of strange.


Ye. Jinro lost on steppes to just a few zealots running in from a single proxy gate if I recall correctly. People here are just insanely biased against Rain for some reason, despite him beating Hongun, NexGenius and Nestea and now putting up a decent fight against the best PvT'er in the business.


But he is obviously still a total n00b :/
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50645 Posts
December 18 2010 11:08 GMT
#3710
On December 18 2010 20:06 SushilS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:00 Samurai- wrote:
so booring, blizzard really needs to address balance ...


NO!!!

NEVER SAY THAT!!!!

you may call me a know-nothing-noob for saying this but its an issue of maps not balance.

Dont even bother. The trolling that goes on here is a whole different level from the sensible BW threads, is wat I've realised!


I forget the huge difference in BW LR threads and SC2 LR threads.......

but its true that at least 80% of imbalance is contributed by maps.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
December 18 2010 11:08 GMT
#3711

On December 18 2010 20:03 ArtOfRandom wrote:
god im sick of people who watch the game more than they play it,


Thank you for posting this. God everyone is an SC2 strategical bonjwa these days.
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
December 18 2010 11:08 GMT
#3712
On December 18 2010 20:08 IMBAkorean wrote:
horribad song ugh


WHAT!?! Best. Song. Ever.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
iversonjack
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia69 Posts
December 18 2010 11:08 GMT
#3713
rain handled that very poorly
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3714
On December 18 2010 20:06 tdt wrote:
so much rain fail

1. Gas?
2. No attacking pylon w/2-3 SCVs
3. Terrible bunker placement
4. terrible micro


No point attacking pylon lol, thats would be the worse decision ever, but the other 3 points, yea
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3715
On December 18 2010 20:06 vylant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:02 coddan wrote:
TL.net reaction when Rain cheeses: that fucking noob, opponent X is so much better, how dare he?

TL.net reaction when oGsMC cheeses: so good strat, gosu micro, rain is so bad


This is spot on. This thread isn't even a discussion about the games.


What you expect as 70% of people posting here are retarded 15year old biased kids that could imagine posting on tl.net as their life job..
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 11:12:07
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3716
On December 18 2010 20:06 Holgerius wrote:
I'm crap at SC2, but in BW SCVs pulled to kill in-base proxys worked like a charm.

This is absolutely true! PULL SCVS-> Kill PROBE->Kill Pylon-> Make reaper to kite zealot->Profit!

User was warned for this post
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
Reminiscence
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore34 Posts
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3717
Seriously i dont want to be one of these armchair commanders and critique a much higher level player from a third person POV but that was extremely terrible play. Even a competent diamond player would have fended off that cheese and transitted rather easily but rain just had to do everything wrong. Bunker placement was off, gas was totally bad idea, taking up valuable minerals needed to deflect an early rush. Tech lab taking up a marine's build time. Disappointing game, he totally threw it away
Mellotron
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States329 Posts
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3718
On December 18 2010 20:07 mizU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 20:06 SmoKim wrote:
On December 18 2010 20:03 McDonalds wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:58 Ghostcom wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:56 Holgerius wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:54 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:52 Holgerius wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:51 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On December 18 2010 19:48 Mellotron wrote:
Its really really baffling how people can actually like this music. Its borderline formless. The form that is there is entry level compositional technique, and there is barely any clever rhyme or modulation. Its like a massive drone of amateur harmony and melody with predictable cliche changes and high/low points. Stuff like this really proves that if you just make something sound artificially busy that people will be into it. Just like how burger king commercials never let the camera stay still etc.


its catchy and fun.

unlike tons of western popmusic which is 99% downright crap(POPOPOPPOPOKERFACE)

dont be so serious about it.


also sometimes "bad" and simple stuff can be very good.look at vybz kartel in the dancehall scene. mostly super simple and dumb music but sooooo freakin catchy cause the guy has some magic.

Modern music in general is crap.



cant say that. there is tons of amazing stuff out there in pretty much all genres. just most of it isnt what you see on tv.

Not in my opinion. Music reached it's peak almost 300 years ago and it's been going downhill ever since.


Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones...

Now, let's keep this thread about the match huh?

I like how you compared two of the most overrated bands of all time to the baroque era.


i like how you called 2 of the most influencial and important bands in history overrated


Subjectivity vs. objectivity. hmmm...


Subjectivity vs objectivity doesnt exist when examining parallel construction in strong writing.
Starcraft player since 1999
killerkoala
Profile Joined October 2010
518 Posts
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3719
10 minutes of ads.

5 minutes of a game.

10 more minutes of ads.
Panda Bear guy is PISSED
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
December 18 2010 11:09 GMT
#3720
On December 18 2010 20:06 Holgerius wrote:
I'm crap at SC2, but in BW SCVs pulled to kill in-base proxys worked like a charm.


If he pulled his SCVs to kill the rax then the toss would of been ahead. This has been said many times.

Shouldn't of gassed and got an extra rax possibly. Better bunker placement would help too.

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