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On December 14 2010 19:30 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 19:29 Sobba wrote:
He should have killed the tanks instead of chasing the Thors. Rush up to the ledge and snipe both tanks with the 10 roaches he had several times. That was really bothering me too. My only explanation for that was he didn't know that his roaches could reach the tanks? He had a lot of opportunities to run over there and snipe them ;(
He should have known, especially with how far those tanks were shooting into his base and he must have had a glimpse of the tank at one point. I really don't know why he went for the marines instead there, take the tank out and you`re safe because the roaches will tear through the marines.
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Bawwww, come on Ret you can do it!
Don't let all the naysayers get to you!
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On December 14 2010 19:30 smileyyy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 19:29 Stuv wrote:
None of the 3 games he lost were cheese of some sort, pretty painful. =( rofl .. Come on dont even think to start this now. Did we watch the same games ?
I didn't watch the first game. But the last two games weren't cheese.
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On December 14 2010 19:28 Lann555 wrote:
Pretty horrible game by Ret again. Took so many unnneeded tank shots or have random units just wander off to die.
yeah, he could have held that easily if it wasn't for so many wasted roaches 
make a larger group of roaches instead of sending small groups to get killed.
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On December 14 2010 19:28 Golden Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 19:25 Piski wrote:On December 14 2010 19:24 Golden Ghost wrote:
Does anybody else feels like Ret is becoming a one trick pony with his fast expands every game? It leaves him so vulnarable for early aggression it's not even funny anymore.
I think Ret will be crushed in every game if he keeps playing like this. You're practically talking about every zerg out there I know as a zerg you have to fast expand but my feeling is saying Ret is doing it way earlier as other Zergs I've seen. I don't play the game so I can't speak from experience there but that's just what I feel seeing Ret play. I could be totally wrong naturally.
If we say GSL is the arena for the highest players out there it's safe to assume hatch first is best and most viable option as even the best zergs tried it even on steppes on war vs terran. This was Shakuras, pretty much the best map for hatch first.
I would say he is doing things as good as anyone might. I don't even know what other things he could do. Why go later hatch when the map allows for hatch first?
Pool first is worse eco-wise and only other thing that comes to mind is bling bust but that isn't that great vs good players.
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Ret should have also thrown down a third. His opponent never scouted the map.
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Ret did not mess up his play, but it's not anything spectacular either, while his opponents have been exceptional awesome. G1 is some nice bio micro by aLive, same for Ace's airforce in G2, and now Ret fell to a fresh drop & tank placement
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Maybe if you account for this kind of strategy by breaking down the rocks as soon as possible, it becomes a bit easier to deal with, however on close positions vs terran I guess an open path would somewhat favor terran.
Alternatively maybe you can get an early 3rd base and creep up to it, make your Lair at the natural and just let the main be sacced without spending too much defending it.
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That was actually pretty well played on Maru's part, he abused the map perfectly.
But how does he play so badly against Ace and then so well against Ret, and why can't it be the other way round?
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On December 14 2010 19:31 diehilde wrote:
omg, does ret still have a chance to make it?
Yea I think there's a good chance 2-3 will get you to a tiebreaker.. If he beats NexFreesaga and Gilja he will be 2-3 at that point FreeSaga has a minimum of 3 losses as well and Gilja or Maru will need to lose 1 more match to be 2-3.
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On December 14 2010 19:30 smileyyy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 19:29 Stuv wrote:
None of the 3 games he lost were cheese of some sort, pretty painful. =( rofl .. Come on dont even think to start this now. Did we watch the same games ?
Well he is right. None of the games were cheese.
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On December 14 2010 19:31 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 19:30 HollowLord wrote:On December 14 2010 19:29 Telcontar wrote:
How's ret doing in the group? 0-3 Ouch, not good at all. Is he making fatal mistakes or just getting outplayed?
I would say outplayed.
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On December 14 2010 19:31 Banginglife wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 19:28 Eko200 wrote:
Koreans dominating foreigners, nothing to see here. Statements like these are dying out considering the advent of players like Jinro and what happened at Dreamhack. So stfu Mr. Demoralizer.
What happened at Dreamhack was 2 Korean knock each other out early out. And they are not even top Koreans. Mind your language please.
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In order to qualify:
Ret needs to win his last two games
PLUS
Either FreeSaga to lose every game OR FreeSaga winning 1 game that's not vs. Ret
AND
MaruPrime losing every game.
This is the case of a [2-3] that's not decided by the person that proceeds is based on head to head record.
If 2-3 records are settled by a tiebreaker, then remove the MaruPrime going 1-4 from the equation.
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I think ret's only chance is if gilja and freesaga lose the rest of their games. And to think, I was really looking forward tonight and instead, foreigners just get a giant slap to the face.
Also, bo1 is really annoying
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On December 14 2010 19:31 Macabre wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 19:30 smileyyy wrote:On December 14 2010 19:29 Stuv wrote:
None of the 3 games he lost were cheese of some sort, pretty painful. =( rofl .. Come on dont even think to start this now. Did we watch the same games ? Can you read? He said they WEREN'T cheese. Way to make zero sense.
I stand corrected. I actually read were cheese of some sort. My mind is playing tricks on me..
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On December 14 2010 19:31 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 19:30 HollowLord wrote:On December 14 2010 19:29 Telcontar wrote:
How's ret doing in the group? 0-3 Ouch, not good at all. Is he making fatal mistakes or just getting outplayed?
A slight mix of both I'd say.
He just doesnt look to be at his best shape as it seems
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On December 14 2010 19:30 pyro19 wrote:
and he powers Drones way too hard , his First Roaches came out after the Terran had Tanks+Siege Mode + Armory+Dropships.
And why did he get that Lair if he all he wanted was Roaches only.
Way way too greedy play by Ret pumping Drones and fast lair in Swap of army and got punished Duly by some Delightful Micro by Maru.Prime
Roach speed.
and to be fair at that point he had to commit to roaches for defense or risk losing his main. As you saw the roaches barely held that main. If he had tried mutas that late he wouldn't have held.
Whenever I play this map I am going to tear down those rocks ;P
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On December 14 2010 19:32 FuRong wrote:
That was actually pretty well played on Maru's part, he abused the map perfectly.
But how does he play so badly against Ace and then so well against Ret, and why can't it be the other way round?
which is why we need new freaking maps.
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On December 14 2010 19:29 pileopoop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 19:28 Golden Ghost wrote:On December 14 2010 19:25 Piski wrote:On December 14 2010 19:24 Golden Ghost wrote:
Does anybody else feels like Ret is becoming a one trick pony with his fast expands every game? It leaves him so vulnarable for early aggression it's not even funny anymore.
I think Ret will be crushed in every game if he keeps playing like this. You're practically talking about every zerg out there I know as a zerg you have to fast expand but my feeling is saying Ret is doing it way earlier as other Zergs I've seen. I don't play the game so I can't speak from experience there but that's just what I feel seeing Ret play. I could be totally wrong naturally. Then don't post bullshit.
Says the pileopoop.
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