EPT[GSL] S3 Ro8 Day 1 - Page 27
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lol.Donkament
Malta50 Posts
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Elite741
United States19 Posts
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Snowbear
Korea (South)1925 Posts
On December 06 2010 19:40 nK)Duke wrote: too much minerals, they get kicked quickly, they take too long to finish. Could at least make 8 more lings 8 lings << 2 spines. Marines and scv's are actually very bad against spines, especially when you protect them with drones. I really want to see ret his opinion on the fast spines when you scout 2rax. | ||
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ZapRoffo
United States5544 Posts
On December 06 2010 19:43 Shikyo wrote: If you pool-first early enough, the first inject will come before you're dead. Also, 14 gas-pool can hold this pretty well. Pool first can defend the super early scv all-in, but it loses to the later mass marine buildup because of production. | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
On December 06 2010 19:42 Boneyard.au wrote: you know, out of all these games Terran has NEVER EVER scouted the gold position on Steppes. What if some sneaky zerg player will say HAH! I shall take a gambit and go for gold, Terran walts into zerg main thinks AHA! he is on 1 base I shall win and then KABAM he gets crushed due to a very unexpected expo (probably would have to pool first and have an early drone at gold to create an illusion of no FE for zerg when SCV comes into main) Except, a smart player would see no tech or anything and realize that there must be a hidden expo somewhere. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 06 2010 19:43 Shikyo wrote: If you pool-first early enough, the first inject will come before you're dead. Also, 14 gas-pool can hold this pretty well. If you read what Ret said if you do that you are in a position to be bunker blocked at ramp (on most maps with it) which your not gonna break with just zerglings  | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
On December 06 2010 19:43 Shikyo wrote: If you pool-first early enough, the first inject will come before you're dead. Also, 14 gas-pool can hold this pretty well. Have fun getting wall-inned because you pooled first. | ||
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Pudge_172
United States1378 Posts
You don't do humor or reality either. | ||
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Lucius2
Germany548 Posts
On December 06 2010 19:43 Moonwrath wrote: I still don't see how hatch first is better. You pull all your drones off of mining anyway so you can't even use all your larva anyway. Pool first get a spinecrawler, then get an in base hatch if you need the larva so badly. Expand once you defend everything. It's certainly a lot safer than trying to hatch first against someone that is rushing you. It just makes no sense when you know some kind of very fast rush is coming to go for an econ build as opposed to a defensive build. the theorycrafter has arrived | ||
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Shakes
Australia557 Posts
On December 06 2010 19:42 Boneyard.au wrote: you know, out of all these games Terran has NEVER EVER scouted the gold position on Steppes. What if some sneaky zerg player will say HAH! I shall take a gambit and go for gold, Terran walts into zerg main thinks AHA! he is on 1 base I shall win and then KABAM he gets crushed due to a very unexpected expo (probably would have to pool first and have an early drone at gold to create an illusion of no FE for zerg when SCV comes into main) Because the terran is going to scout no pool and no hatch and say "well I guess this previous GSL winner is herp derping and just saving all his minerals". | ||
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_vladimir_
Serbia530 Posts
On December 06 2010 19:36 Liquid`Ret wrote: people who keep talking about 'hatch first' really don't have a clue.. 2 rax constant marines dominates pool first so bad because there's only so few larve off 1 hatch untill after the first queen inject...the marines can just push you back non stop till that first inject finishes and you are in danger of being bunker blocked not to mention you have to blindly make ~20 lings in that case so if terran just stops after 5 mariens and puts down a CC you are economically fucked nestea fucked up his drone/ling control pretty bad there but hatch first is the only choice really...hency why steppes is auto loss vs terran, im sure nestea expected to lose set 2 Quoting for 10th time for truth. And this is one of reasons why this site is full of win, people from team, pro players, actualy bother to post here  But biggest win wa Jinro post GO MC, when MC won RO 16, while he was waiting in box for his own game | ||
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Frazzlehoon
United States3455 Posts
(Taken out of context obviously. ;]) | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
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KingRajesh
United States927 Posts
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Tx-MisfiT
United States283 Posts
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superjoppe
Sweden3694 Posts
On December 06 2010 19:43 Elite741 wrote: Anyone got a stream other than gom? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=174576¤tpage=7#140 | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On December 06 2010 19:43 Gudeldar wrote: True, if he can pull that style off against NesTea or FruitDealer then I will believe its possible. I don't think I've ever seen a Terran survive the Brood Lord/Ultralisk tech switch. Ye, the big problem with that style is that a Zerg who reacts properly will just take the map and tech quickly to Broodlords instead of investing too much in troops. Once Broodlords come out, Jinro's marine/tank mix just gets stomped hard. Maybe Jinro has a solution for that problem but Ill believe it when I see it | ||
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Pudge_172
United States1378 Posts
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SpeaKEaSY
United States1070 Posts
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SayfT
Australia298 Posts
On December 06 2010 19:44 Treadmill wrote: Except, a smart player would see no tech or anything and realize that there must be a hidden expo somewhere. Hence why I said it might have to be pool first to make sure that Terran does not suspect an FE, bolded it out in my quote | ||
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