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Providence
Profile Joined May 2010
United States125 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 19:21:36
November 29 2010 19:14 GMT
#3221
I don't think carrier armor should be buffed, but rather the interceptors. Something about marine ball actually being able to target something that moves that fast just doesn't make sense realistically to me lol

Edit: Sorry, didn't mean interceptor armor, I mean interceptors in general. Maybe have like a 50% evasion rate or something.
The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is. - Winston Churchill
gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
November 29 2010 19:20 GMT
#3222
Just caught up on all the games. I'm glad HongUn won, especially with those baller Carriers. As for the Ret games.

I'm glad he lost. Never really liked the guy since he broke into the pro scene in SC1. He comes across as an arrogant asshole. Of course, I could be totally wrong, but from what I've seen and heard, I doubt it. TheBestfOu out played him in all three games. If it wasn't for trying to get up to his main in game 1, he would have won. Games 2 and 3 speak for themselves regardless of what all the fanboys here say.



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frantic.cactus
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand164 Posts
November 29 2010 19:24 GMT
#3223
Aw chin up Ret!

You are an amazing player and were proud to have you represent the foreign community at the higest level.

RET HWAITING!
Terran it up since 2007
Ashera
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada202 Posts
November 29 2010 19:24 GMT
#3224
Thank goodness FruitDealer is still in this, it's sad that Ret couldn't hold on and advance but it's still saying something that he even made it to the Ro32.
Viva la Vida
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
November 29 2010 19:25 GMT
#3225
WoW. Carrier ftw.. who would have figured huh....
kuroshiro
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom378 Posts
November 29 2010 19:28 GMT
#3226
Wasn't it Hongun who said in his RO64 interview that his objective as far as GSL goes was to make a carrier?

Awesome dude ^_^
I am you, and you are me.
Lomak
Profile Joined June 2010
United States311 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 19:30:00
November 29 2010 19:29 GMT
#3227
I'm sorry but why are his own teammates supporting statements like "Ret didn't 'deserve' to go through"

I'm not an expert but that just seems to be sabotaging the idea of having a cohesive team to support / practice with and help get better.

Just really sad to hear that from here, even more so than to see another foreigner get knocked out. I mean c'mon guys we should all be rooting for each other no reason to be hatin (especially on your OWN teammates)
Some see the glass half full, others half empty. I think the glass is just too big.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
November 29 2010 19:43 GMT
#3228
On November 30 2010 04:29 Lomak wrote:
I'm sorry but why are his own teammates supporting statements like "Ret didn't 'deserve' to go through"

I'm not an expert but that just seems to be sabotaging the idea of having a cohesive team to support / practice with and help get better.

Just really sad to hear that from here, even more so than to see another foreigner get knocked out. I mean c'mon guys we should all be rooting for each other no reason to be hatin (especially on your OWN teammates)


It's not hating. It's much healthier for a progamer to face the weaknesses in his play and work on fixing his mistakes than it is for him to think that he 'deserved' to go through and that he only lost because of cheese/imbalance/lag/etc. Ret's teammates know this so they help him keep the right attitude, and of course they'll be there to help him fix any weaknesses he might have. I'm sure they would expect him to do the same if they lost.
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
November 29 2010 19:44 GMT
#3229
Nooooooooooo Ret!!!!!!!!
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PuercoPop
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Peru277 Posts
November 29 2010 19:46 GMT
#3230
On November 30 2010 04:29 Lomak wrote:
I'm sorry but why are his own teammates supporting statements like "Ret didn't 'deserve' to go through"

I'm not an expert but that just seems to be sabotaging the idea of having a cohesive team to support / practice with and help get better.

Just really sad to hear that from here, even more so than to see another foreigner get knocked out. I mean c'mon guys we should all be rooting for each other no reason to be hatin (especially on your OWN teammates)


It is called Sarcasm.

We are all sad Ret lost, and only by the inch of a Hair, even with the maps against him. His opponent played very well also, but I'm left with the feeling the odds were stacked against Ret. Would have liked to see the matches take place in a more balanced map set.
The Proof of the Pudding is in the eating!
MGren
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden148 Posts
November 29 2010 19:52 GMT
#3231
On November 30 2010 02:11 Yusername wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 01:22 Liquid`Ret wrote:
not worth it

Hey, come on. It was your first GSL. Just because you didn't win it doesn't mean it's not worth trying again. You almost won and are clearly amongst the best.


Yea, go ret! From here you can only become stronger!
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Providence
Profile Joined May 2010
United States125 Posts
November 29 2010 20:02 GMT
#3232
Anyone know how the maps are selected? Or are they randomized? Seems a lot of ZvTs have had steppes, delta quad, or jungle basin in 2/3 of the maps
The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is. - Winston Churchill
Somnolence
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania127 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 20:12:45
November 29 2010 20:12 GMT
#3233
On November 30 2010 03:45 koppik wrote:
Jinro has it worse. He has to play on Scrap Station and Blistering Sands. I'm putting forward a conspiracy theory that GOM really wants to see a Boxer vs. Moon match.

Hopefully this season provides some impetus for GOM and that new players union to get together to decide on some non-Blizzard maps for GSL 2011.



Yes, they did place them in a brackets so they would eventually meet. I hope Jinro channels all terran IMBA and pulls-trough - don't think I could handle another Boxers TvZ like that vs Nestea
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 29 2010 20:14 GMT
#3234
Looks like your opponent got the best of u, ret.
Beider
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany198 Posts
November 29 2010 20:21 GMT
#3235
On November 30 2010 04:20 gozima wrote:
Just caught up on all the games. I'm glad HongUn won, especially with those baller Carriers. As for the Ret games.

I'm glad he lost. Never really liked the guy since he broke into the pro scene in SC1. He comes across as an arrogant asshole. Of course, I could be totally wrong, but from what I've seen and heard, I doubt it. TheBestfOu out played him in all three games. If it wasn't for trying to get up to his main in game 1, he would have won. Games 2 and 3 speak for themselves regardless of what all the fanboys here say.



I am not sure you were watching the same games as the rest of us? Ret did an amazing job in game one and really showed how good he can be, that creep spread + the very impressive micro when the hellions got into his mail. He lost less drones to 5x blue flame than I have seen zergs in GSL lose to 2-3 normal hellions in similar positions.

Quite frankly I think Ret played better than his opponent, but he made a few mistakes in game 3 which cost him the game.
NikNak
Profile Joined April 2010
United States28 Posts
November 29 2010 20:23 GMT
#3236
Steps of War and Jungle Basin that's ridiculous. Had he gotten better maps I bet he would have won as seen by his win on Metalopolis. GSL 4!
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
November 29 2010 20:25 GMT
#3237
He went hatch first on Steppes. There really isn't much more to say about that.

Then he mismicroed and was too lax on dropping spines on jungle basin. He KNEW his opponent was going for some 1 base crap and still didn't put spines until it was too late. Then on the final push, he only had two which were positioned rather poorly considering he knew the T had medivacs. He's going to look at that game and slap himself, because dropping another spine or two could have won him the game. Ret is a great player and will be back, but the map had less to do with it than his decision making.
Don't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
November 29 2010 20:32 GMT
#3238
Not worth me analysing the games. Better luck next time Ret.

Good luck to July, Jinro, Idra and Slayers Boxer!
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
November 29 2010 20:34 GMT
#3239
Too bad ret didn't win. But I have to give props to his opponent for not going the ever popular 2 rax and using marine + mass SCV rush strategies at all, despite how powerful they are. In a way he probably threw ret off by doing this, as it's all people can be expecting.

Game 1: the mech was surprisingly effective, if the terran hadn't been trying to go up the ramp and fight the brood lords from below for 5 minutes but instead had swept around the top of the map and cleared out ret's expos, it could have been a lot tougher for ret. But does show his (and zerg's) insanely powerful macro if left alone!

Game 2: Early harass did quite some damage to ret even though terran was teching, after that it was mostly a guessing game about what terran was gonna throw at him next.

Game 3: Looks like ret would have indeed held the rush (and won the game) had he had zergling speed because those marauders were insane with their kiting. So quite possibly ret not advancing was through a misclick..

And I have to say I'm in the (very lonely) camp of people who don't mind these maps. Throw in a bit of everything. Sure longer macro games are great fun to watch but the solution is NOT to only use big macro maps, that'll just make zerg roflstomp everyone.
here i am
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
November 29 2010 20:43 GMT
#3240
I was most impressed by fruitdealers second game, rets first game and honguns second game. So for anyone who haven't watched those, I highly recommend them.
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