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Jusciax
Profile Joined August 2007
Lithuania588 Posts
November 29 2010 17:57 GMT
#3201
Ret, you are awesome. GSL4 champion go go!
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
November 29 2010 17:58 GMT
#3202
Fruitdealer > Ret since he survive those horrible maps
Doriboi
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States181 Posts
November 29 2010 18:02 GMT
#3203
On November 30 2010 01:46 TrzystaDrzew wrote:
I am really sorry for Ret as I am cheering for all non-korean players.

However I am tired of you ppl notoriously complaining about 1 base style, cheese style and SCV push style.

This is pro-scene. They are not playing to pleasure your expectations but to win. Get with it. If you wanna some long game macro drama SC2 might disappoint you for quiet long.


That last game which Artosis said it was cheese was just stupid. Ret played well, but TheBest came up with creative 1 base pressure to apply to Ret and was able to break him. It was a display of great multitasking and army control. Hardly cheese. I sometimes wish Artosis would bite his tounge at times.
Pew Pew! www.fusionesports.com www.facebook.com/fusionsc2
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
November 29 2010 18:05 GMT
#3204
On November 30 2010 02:28 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 02:22 teacash wrote:
On November 30 2010 02:20 koppik wrote:
Ro32 should be good enough for A-code. There are 64 A-code players and 32 S-code players, right? 32*3 = 96. So even if you had a totally distinct Ro32 every GSL, all Ro32 players would get either S or A codes.

Artosis seemed to suggest that Ret won't get A-class..
I'm not sure how certain he is of this.. but without further info, I'd trust Artosis on this.

He's assuming that getting ro32 gets u to A class atleast. He's forgetting to count in the people that managed to get into ro64 twice or all 3 gsl's but did not make it further. So all in all Artosis might be right but I don't have the spreadsheet of the numbers for this to back this up.
There are repeated Ro32 showings too, so for every player who made it into the Ro32 twice, there could be another player who didn't make the Ro32 once who gets A-code.
Yusername
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden252 Posts
November 29 2010 18:11 GMT
#3205
Is there a risk Ret will be leaving South Korea because of this loss? Didn't he say he'd stay for some time?
fean0r
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany117 Posts
November 29 2010 18:13 GMT
#3206
omg return of the zerg whine thread... worst horrormovie ever, feels like watchin troma
Abysus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States67 Posts
November 29 2010 18:27 GMT
#3207
On November 30 2010 02:28 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 02:22 teacash wrote:
On November 30 2010 02:20 koppik wrote:
Ro32 should be good enough for A-code. There are 64 A-code players and 32 S-code players, right? 32*3 = 96. So even if you had a totally distinct Ro32 every GSL, all Ro32 players would get either S or A codes.

Artosis seemed to suggest that Ret won't get A-class..
I'm not sure how certain he is of this.. but without further info, I'd trust Artosis on this.

He's assuming that getting ro32 gets u to A class atleast. He's forgetting to count in the people that managed to get into ro64 twice or all 3 gsl's but did not make it further. So all in all Artosis might be right but I don't have the spreadsheet of the numbers for this to back this up.


http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/news/284

According to that he will be getting A class
Beider
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany198 Posts
November 29 2010 18:27 GMT
#3208
On November 30 2010 03:11 Yusername wrote:
Is there a risk Ret will be leaving South Korea because of this loss? Didn't he say he'd stay for some time?


I am also very curious about this, I hadn't really seen Ret play before this GSL but damn he is so good, I really want to see more of that guy. Made me so sad to see him go out today, even though he lost I still consider him the superior player of the two just because of how solid his play is.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 29 2010 18:28 GMT
#3209
On November 29 2010 23:05 JinNJuice wrote:
and fruitdealer didn't play against 1-base allins

and FD got out macro'd in game 1. which is pretty aparent that T CAN play a macro game vs Z but instead they just all in every game.
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
November 29 2010 18:34 GMT
#3210
On November 30 2010 00:58 Liquid`HayprO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 00:26 Markwerf wrote:
Ret simply didn't deserve to go through, he played quite bad. He simply didn't adopt to the terran's playstyle at all.

+ Show Spoiler +

Game 1 he took a risky broodlord tech, decent option against mech terran but he was a bit slow with it imo. If terran took the natural and the 3rd and then went viking Ret actually would have lost probably. His first reaction with the roaches was horrible as he took a WAY too long route with the roaches to come from the back getting the other roaches killed already before arriving.

Game 2 he played extremely greedy again. Even losing some stuff to the first poke off 1 base and then simply dying to banshee's. Why didn't he try to change up his game for 1 game or something at least, also his ovie scouting wasn't too good here.

Game 3 he should have held easily with the way jungle basin lets you protect the ramp. All he had for the first attack was basically queens and like 4 lings and it seems like he was completely surprised. Afterwards he kept scouting T had no expo yet he went muta anyway and droned up too much. He was constantly late getting (bane)lings in this matchup which lost him the game.

As for map pool, he can't really complain. Sure steppes is pretty awful (and almost every zerg got it coindedentally, as if they try to balance the results through maps a bit) but meta cross is about the best for Z and jungle basin is quite fine too.




finally someone saying this. i totally agree with u. can we be friends?


Why do your replies always make me feel like you have some issues with Ret? Even though it might be true that Ret played worse than in practice games, the fact that a teammate comes to point that out just feels..iffy.
this game is a fucking jokie
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
November 29 2010 18:35 GMT
#3211
People are upset cause we were really cheering for you Ret. It sucks to see your favorite player lose and just like with sports, everyone has an oppinion about what you could have done better. Its the downside of being popular and "famous".
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
November 29 2010 18:38 GMT
#3212
The first "real" GSL should be in January, right? So, the earliest Ret could play in the top GSL would be in March.
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
November 29 2010 18:41 GMT
#3213
So not fair....ret has to fight on Jungle Basin AND Steps of war?! T.T
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
November 29 2010 18:45 GMT
#3214
Jinro has it worse. He has to play on Scrap Station and Blistering Sands. I'm putting forward a conspiracy theory that GOM really wants to see a Boxer vs. Moon match.

Hopefully this season provides some impetus for GOM and that new players union to get together to decide on some non-Blizzard maps for GSL 2011.
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
November 29 2010 18:46 GMT
#3215
reading rets results just ruined my day.
Better than Pokebunny
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
November 29 2010 18:46 GMT
#3216
So I'm honestly offended. People have been telling me I'm terrible because I use carriers in PvT. They continuously say that carriers just don't work, they're horrible, vikings destroy them if they get scouted, they're cost inefficient AND that they CANNOT work at high level play.

FUCK ALL THE NAYSAYERS!

Carriers are the answer people, Hongunprime is my savior. Like seriously people, don't knock shit you don't know.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Peekaboo
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada219 Posts
November 29 2010 19:04 GMT
#3217
I cried when I found out the map game 3 would be on. Grats to Ret on playing so well. I love his style.
You loved me as a loser but now you're worried that I just might win. -L. Cohen
PuercoPop
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Peru277 Posts
November 29 2010 19:05 GMT
#3218
On November 30 2010 03:46 N3rV[Green] wrote:
So I'm honestly offended. People have been telling me I'm terrible because I use carriers in PvT. They continuously say that carriers just don't work, they're horrible, vikings destroy them if they get scouted, they're cost inefficient AND that they CANNOT work at high level play.

FUCK ALL THE NAYSAYERS!

Carriers are the answer people, Hongunprime is my savior. Like seriously people, don't knock shit you don't know.


You did watch the interview after the match where he basically said: "I felt like I was going to loose anyway to I thought, what the hell I'll go Carriers. For the Fans."

And in the Korean Interview he asked for a Carrier Armor Buff. Even HongUp doesn't think Carriers are the solution to PvT.

P.D. HongUp The Fans love you!
The Proof of the Pudding is in the eating!
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
November 29 2010 19:10 GMT
#3219
On November 30 2010 03:35 DaCruise wrote:
People are upset cause we were really cheering for you Ret. It sucks to see your favorite player lose and just like with sports, everyone has an oppinion about what you could have done better. Its the downside of being popular and "famous".


I can't emphasize this enough. People are upset/disappointed because they care and cheer for you. It's the same deal with your national team at World Cup, when they lose despite giving their all, people will initially demand their heads on a plate - just to love each and every one of them to bits after next victory. People need to direct their disappontment and anger at someone and the player(s) is the obvious choice.

Don't let it get to you.
Bru
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden184 Posts
November 29 2010 19:12 GMT
#3220
Im really mad at gom/blizzard tbh its so selfish of em to make people not being able to veto just to show "all maps". The player can get screwed like ret did this game just by map and its just plain bad.
, taking away the ability to veto maps is just fking ridicilous, gsl coinflip tourney.

Ive payed for all 3 seasons ticket pass, but if theese idiotic rules who screw really good players over continue i might just cancel. Its ruining the whole experience,

Its kinda like the dreamhack coinflip....

Ret fighting!
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