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kirbynator
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada503 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 16:25:08
November 29 2010 16:24 GMT
#3161
i love you ret <3

dont give up youre da man

f the haters they're ignorant
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 16:32:19
November 29 2010 16:27 GMT
#3162
On November 30 2010 01:22 Liquid`Ret wrote:
not worth it


But it was true.. :/

Do you not have the important tech structure in a hotkey so you can check the progress ?
I always hotkey them cos I screw them up everytime ^^

I hope you get code A !
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 16:34:26
November 29 2010 16:32 GMT
#3163
*leadhat on* Gom doesnt want a 3rd Gsl Zerg Winner Thats why Zerg players get such shitty maps *leadhat off*

Well I must admit T played pretty good in game 3 abusing the map desing.
However if game 2 hadnt been played on the shittiest Zerg map. I think we might have seen different results. Maybe Ret got nervous after losing the game on Sow. Who knows .... He played not to his fullest in game 3.
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
Knee
Profile Joined July 2010
73 Posts
November 29 2010 16:32 GMT
#3164
where can I watch the HongUnPrime.WE vs JSLZenith games? The first one is on GomTV, but I can't watch the rest.
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
November 29 2010 16:36 GMT
#3165
that 2 base carrier by hongun was something else, just completely wrecked the terran bio force. I like seeing these heavy air builds such as the void rays off 2base vs zerg that have been used a couple times so far.
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
November 29 2010 16:37 GMT
#3166
On November 30 2010 01:32 Knee wrote:
where can I watch the HongUnPrime.WE vs JSLZenith games? The first one is on GomTV, but I can't watch the rest.

pay for it and you can watch it. only first games are free
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
ubk
Profile Joined November 2010
15 Posts
November 29 2010 16:38 GMT
#3167
in ret's 3rd game 1 or 2 more spines would'v done the trick imo...or not running the banes down the ramp
Djeez
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
543 Posts
November 29 2010 16:40 GMT
#3168
Hopefully Terran will stop calling zerg overpower, as more and more zerg are losing...

People just to conclusion so much, and now as GSL 3 comes by, it seems new build have come to counter the ''zomg so OP zerg'', showing what most logical people thought: give it time, damn it.
''Watching steppes of war in the gsl would be like watching the dreamhack 1.6 finals start out on fy_iceworld. '' -red_b
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
November 29 2010 16:41 GMT
#3169
That was heartbreaking to watch Ret go out. It wasn't all the maps fault though =\ Steppes was of course, I can write that off as a map loss, but on Jungle Basin the game never even got to the stage that makes it imba for Zerg. Little mistakes on Ret's part but it still feels like he was cheated out of that win so bad.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
November 29 2010 16:45 GMT
#3170
On November 29 2010 21:36 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 21:32 EpiK-J wrote:
On November 29 2010 21:24 Sfydjklm wrote:
On November 29 2010 21:20 Mothxal wrote:
This mob mentality here about "zomg teh maps" here is pretty silly. As if spawning cross-position on metalopolis isn't a superbig advantage for Ret in the first game. In game 3 Ret made quite a lot of mistakes and he was outplayed by his opponent. The map actually didn't have anything to do with the loss, because the game never got to the late stages.

no, cross positions on Meta does not give zerg any advantages.
As Cliiide proven in his series vs leenock if you arent fucking garbage you can hang with Z in macro game. But as Mardow kindly pointed out if all you do is SCV all ins how can you ever learn to macro?
Just look at that retard sC making tanks and empty bunkers against muta in the SoW, or Best making tanks vs Broodlords game 1.


Put your bias away mate. Every zerg except maybe kyrix would love to spawn cross positions.

1. It gives you more time to build units when your oppenent attacks
2. Easy access to a 2nd expo. As artosis once said, if zerg spawned close to thier oppenent, the game becomes like jungle basin as its an easy first expo but the second expo is hard.

we're talking
close t>z
far t=z
instead of
close t>z
far t<z
hope that helped.


wow you are right there with Artosis in term of being Zerg biased. How did you figure that far t=z?? Because of Clide and Leenock game? Clide lost anyway. He was playing from behind the entire time and finally could not deal with that constant tech switch from broodlords to ultras.
TrzystaDrzew
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland72 Posts
November 29 2010 16:46 GMT
#3171
I am really sorry for Ret as I am cheering for all non-korean players.

However I am tired of you ppl notoriously complaining about 1 base style, cheese style and SCV push style.

This is pro-scene. They are not playing to pleasure your expectations but to win. Get with it. If you wanna some long game macro drama SC2 might disappoint you for quiet long.
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
November 29 2010 16:52 GMT
#3172
Artosis loves to say that the best maps for the Zerg players are at the same time the best balanced maps. I am not entirely sure if Terran and Protoss players would agree.

But I would like to see different maps for different GSL seasons. Now they are finished anyway, GSL3 is the last.

Hopefully, new maps come out. The bigger maps, suited for macro games and still balanced ones.

I have a suspicion that they had to do these 3 GSL seasons pretty fast. So they were OK with all-in plays. But come 2011, they would want entertaining long games among S class players.
Penetrates
Profile Joined August 2010
Hong Kong82 Posts
November 29 2010 16:52 GMT
#3173
Correct me if I'm wrong but Ret is still going to be a Rank A player right?
Knee
Profile Joined July 2010
73 Posts
November 29 2010 16:54 GMT
#3174
On November 30 2010 01:37 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 01:32 Knee wrote:
where can I watch the HongUnPrime.WE vs JSLZenith games? The first one is on GomTV, but I can't watch the rest.

pay for it and you can watch it. only first games are free



can I eventually watch them free?
Qwix
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
November 29 2010 16:56 GMT
#3175
Can anyone link me a website with the vods of todays matches? I wassen't at home when the restreamers where online so i don't know specific channels that could have had the vods.
Sarmis
Profile Joined July 2010
United States58 Posts
November 29 2010 16:57 GMT
#3176
You know, you could always try gomtv.net
Support your esports!
"All that is very well," answered Candide, "but let us cultivate our garden."
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
November 29 2010 17:01 GMT
#3177
On November 30 2010 00:58 Liquid`HayprO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 00:26 Markwerf wrote:
Ret simply didn't deserve to go through, he played quite bad. He simply didn't adopt to the terran's playstyle at all.

+ Show Spoiler +

Game 1 he took a risky broodlord tech, decent option against mech terran but he was a bit slow with it imo. If terran took the natural and the 3rd and then went viking Ret actually would have lost probably. His first reaction with the roaches was horrible as he took a WAY too long route with the roaches to come from the back getting the other roaches killed already before arriving.

Game 2 he played extremely greedy again. Even losing some stuff to the first poke off 1 base and then simply dying to banshee's. Why didn't he try to change up his game for 1 game or something at least, also his ovie scouting wasn't too good here.

Game 3 he should have held easily with the way jungle basin lets you protect the ramp. All he had for the first attack was basically queens and like 4 lings and it seems like he was completely surprised. Afterwards he kept scouting T had no expo yet he went muta anyway and droned up too much. He was constantly late getting (bane)lings in this matchup which lost him the game.

As for map pool, he can't really complain. Sure steppes is pretty awful (and almost every zerg got it coindedentally, as if they try to balance the results through maps a bit) but meta cross is about the best for Z and jungle basin is quite fine too.




finally someone saying this. i totally agree with u. can we be friends?

Your saying Ret played bad, but at least he doesn't die to marine push due to lack of scouting


User was banned for this post.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
November 29 2010 17:02 GMT
#3178
Fruitdealer's games always makes my heart beat faster. He should be the most popular sc2 player in the world.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
November 29 2010 17:03 GMT
#3179
<3's Ret, was really routing for you. Im sure you will kick ass next season!
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 17:12:12
November 29 2010 17:04 GMT
#3180
It should be GOM's responsibility to take as much imbalance out of the game as possible through making better maps . I still dont know why they havent done this.
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