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On November 21 2010 17:04 mango_destroyer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 16:56 papyrus wrote:somethings fishy around here, i think foxer intended to lose here. lol, but 16k $ is big ya know.  That is a big reach. I think he could be happy for Kyrix, I assume they are friends I seen some pic on gomtv floating somewhere of him and others watching Kyrix play for GSL 3 prelim.
Foxer has no reason to intentionally lose, especially so soon after the match fixing scandal and before a team league is even established. He would be risking his career before it even started.
On November 21 2010 17:06 Reason.SC2 wrote:
kyrix is looking pretty good... could he be our third zerg GSL winner?
I don't know, he still has some stuff to work on. At least he proved the naysayers he can macro. I actually like his style of mass expanding quickly, he pulled some similar moves in GSL
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Amazing thing about Kyrix that he adapts instantly to the situation and seems like he is comfortable with any units composition on the other hand Foxer seems struggling when he's not doing his usual marine thing.
Btw not a single baling for Kyrix in G2 :D
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On November 21 2010 16:59 QuothTheRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 16:57 kirkybaby wrote:On November 21 2010 16:56 Weirdkid wrote:On November 21 2010 16:54 AlBundy wrote:
One thing that bugs me. The thor drop build is one of the most, if not THE most expected build on LT. Why did he do it? It's so obvious... It's still one of the hardest to stop, especially if the zerg does an early expand. Just because a build is expected doesn't mean it's not a super strong build  Anyway, who's that caucasian dude?? michael someone, couldn't read it fast enough. anyone famous in blizzard named michael? There's Mike Morhaime, but that's not Mike Morhaime there.
looked like jay wilson to me, unless they showed the guy next to him as michael something?
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Foxer the new Yellow? 
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On November 21 2010 17:09 GP wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 17:04 mango_destroyer wrote:On November 21 2010 16:56 papyrus wrote:somethings fishy around here, i think foxer intended to lose here. lol, but 16k $ is big ya know. That is a big reach. I think he could be happy for Kyrix, I assume they are friends I seen some pic on gomtv floating somewhere of him and others watching Kyrix play for GSL 3 prelim. Foxer has no reason to intentionally lose, especially so soon after the match fixing scandal and before a team league is even established. He would be risking his career before it even started.
Who said anything about match fixing? Maybe he just didn't want everybody putting him under the microscope during GSL3 since there is a lot more prize money involved. I doubt that he lost intentionally but there is more than one reason to drop a game.
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On November 21 2010 17:15 McDonalds wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 17:09 GP wrote:On November 21 2010 17:04 mango_destroyer wrote:On November 21 2010 16:56 papyrus wrote:somethings fishy around here, i think foxer intended to lose here. lol, but 16k $ is big ya know. That is a big reach. I think he could be happy for Kyrix, I assume they are friends I seen some pic on gomtv floating somewhere of him and others watching Kyrix play for GSL 3 prelim. Foxer has no reason to intentionally lose, especially so soon after the match fixing scandal and before a team league is even established. He would be risking his career before it even started. Who said anything about match fixing? Maybe he just didn't want everybody putting him under the microscope during GSL3 since there is a lot more prize money involved. I doubt that he lost intentionally but there is more than one reason to drop a game.
I said something about match fixing. ^^ If you intentionally lose, you're fixing the match, there's no way around that. It doesn't matter whether you're doing it for profit or some other stupid reason, you're fixing the outcome of the match. And what other reason would there be to throw a money match other than someone offers you a whole lot more money to lose? I think he had some new builds he wanted to surprise Kyrix with and his nerves got to him, so he performed them very poorly.
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On November 21 2010 17:12 kash2k wrote:
Foxer seems struggling when he's not doing his usual marine thing.
All I can say about this is that you should watch more often. His previous thor drops worked out pretty well. He used tanks effectively in the GSL2 finals. Marauders and ghosts made a big impact in the third game with Tester. If people are waiting for him to play a game without a single marine then I think they'll be waiting forever. It wouldn't make much sense for him to do that when it's a big part of his style of play.
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I don't understand why optimus is listed as getting second place? It was BoxeR that played this tournament and I would assume after getting 2nd in GSL 2 and going to the finals in this tournament that liquipedia would have enough class to list the name he played under.
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I think he should have stuck with the Thor drop he used in the GSL, this one was completely all-in, his build in the GSL was just to harass. I think if Kyrix didn't stay on 1 base so long and did the usual 14 expand business his Thor all-in would have owned.
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On November 21 2010 17:19 GP wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 17:15 McDonalds wrote:On November 21 2010 17:09 GP wrote:On November 21 2010 17:04 mango_destroyer wrote:On November 21 2010 16:56 papyrus wrote:somethings fishy around here, i think foxer intended to lose here. lol, but 16k $ is big ya know. That is a big reach. I think he could be happy for Kyrix, I assume they are friends I seen some pic on gomtv floating somewhere of him and others watching Kyrix play for GSL 3 prelim. Foxer has no reason to intentionally lose, especially so soon after the match fixing scandal and before a team league is even established. He would be risking his career before it even started. Who said anything about match fixing? Maybe he just didn't want everybody putting him under the microscope during GSL3 since there is a lot more prize money involved. I doubt that he lost intentionally but there is more than one reason to drop a game. I said something about match fixing. ^^ If you intentionally lose, you're fixing the match, there's no way around that. It doesn't matter whether you're doing it for profit or some other stupid reason, you're fixing the outcome of the match. And what other reason would there be to throw a money match other than someone offers you a whole lot more money to lose? I think he had some new builds he wanted to surprise Kyrix with and his nerves got to him, so he performed them very poorly.
Match fixing usually implies that the result has been organized though, and you suggested that it would put his career at risk. Deciding as the game starts that "meh, I'll just play around in this and if I lose then all the better anyway" isn't going to impact your career, especially in a minor event like this. There wouldn't be any evidence around to implicate you in anything illegal.
But anyway, my first impression is that he has trouble calming down during finals. He was clutch for about a minute when Kyrix was trying to end game two at the ramp, but during the rest of the series he didn't really seem like himself.
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On November 21 2010 17:45 McDonalds wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 17:19 GP wrote:On November 21 2010 17:15 McDonalds wrote:On November 21 2010 17:09 GP wrote:On November 21 2010 17:04 mango_destroyer wrote:On November 21 2010 16:56 papyrus wrote:somethings fishy around here, i think foxer intended to lose here. lol, but 16k $ is big ya know. That is a big reach. I think he could be happy for Kyrix, I assume they are friends I seen some pic on gomtv floating somewhere of him and others watching Kyrix play for GSL 3 prelim. Foxer has no reason to intentionally lose, especially so soon after the match fixing scandal and before a team league is even established. He would be risking his career before it even started. Who said anything about match fixing? Maybe he just didn't want everybody putting him under the microscope during GSL3 since there is a lot more prize money involved. I doubt that he lost intentionally but there is more than one reason to drop a game. I said something about match fixing. ^^ If you intentionally lose, you're fixing the match, there's no way around that. It doesn't matter whether you're doing it for profit or some other stupid reason, you're fixing the outcome of the match. And what other reason would there be to throw a money match other than someone offers you a whole lot more money to lose? I think he had some new builds he wanted to surprise Kyrix with and his nerves got to him, so he performed them very poorly. Match fixing usually implies that the result has been organized though, and you suggested that it would put his career at risk. Deciding as the game starts that "meh, I'll just play around in this and if I lose then all the better anyway" isn't going to impact your career, especially in a minor event like this. There wouldn't be any evidence around to implicate you in anything illegal..
I know what match fixing usually implies. I'm just simply saying that if you're fixing the match, you're fixing the match you can't get around that. Unless the guy's already rich he has no reason to say "meh I'll just play around." All I'm saying is the only reason he would have to throw a match is if any sort of money was involved, and where his career is at he has no reason to even think about it. No one just messes around when there's 5.5 k is on the line. That would be insane.
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On November 21 2010 17:13 eggs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 16:59 QuothTheRaven wrote:On November 21 2010 16:57 kirkybaby wrote:On November 21 2010 16:56 Weirdkid wrote:On November 21 2010 16:54 AlBundy wrote:
One thing that bugs me. The thor drop build is one of the most, if not THE most expected build on LT. Why did he do it? It's so obvious... It's still one of the hardest to stop, especially if the zerg does an early expand. Just because a build is expected doesn't mean it's not a super strong build Anyway, who's that caucasian dude?? michael someone, couldn't read it fast enough. anyone famous in blizzard named michael? There's Mike Morhaime, but that's not Mike Morhaime there. looked like jay wilson to me, unless they showed the guy next to him as michael something?
It was Michael Gilmartin
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Foxer fast becoming the silver surfer of sc2.
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Anyone know where I can find Korean VODs for the whole event (preferably NOT on the GOMTV site).
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On November 21 2010 18:37 GTR wrote:
Anyone know where I can find Korean VODs for the whole event (preferably NOT on the GOMTV site).
Ro16, Ro8 VODs are all posted on sc2rep.com
Today's Semifinal and final games are uploading now.
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Foxer's the Terran Yellow, chokes whenever he's in a finals.
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On November 21 2010 18:54 yypisces wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 18:37 GTR wrote:
Anyone know where I can find Korean VODs for the whole event (preferably NOT on the GOMTV site). Ro16, Ro8 VODs are all posted on sc2rep.com Today's Semifinal and final games are uploading now.
Cool thanks
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The assertions that Foxer wasn't trying his best or was saving some strategies are absolutely hilarious. Since he, unlike apparently many here, knows that even if he somehow was the favorite to win GSL 3, which he most certainly is not, he wouldn't be a big enough favorite to make up for the $5k he lost here. He just isn't nearly as good as some of you thought.
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On November 21 2010 18:54 yypisces wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 18:37 GTR wrote:
Anyone know where I can find Korean VODs for the whole event (preferably NOT on the GOMTV site). Ro16, Ro8 VODs are all posted on sc2rep.com Today's Semifinal and final games are uploading now.
That's with Chinese commentary. I don't want Chinese commentary.
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