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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 16 2010 13:05 GMT
#5261
On November 16 2010 21:55 Corrupted wrote:
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On November 16 2010 21:52 Endorsed wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:50 Corrupted wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:48 Tommylew wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:46 The KY wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:44 Raidern wrote:
grats team liquid
3/4 is huuuuge! thats really awesome

its a shame huk didn't make it, but he can do it next time hopefully


I don't even think there are any more GSL opens..?

Seems a little bit like HuK's on a fall from grace.


Actually I think the GSLs that will be next year just means he wont be seeded, so hell either have to face seeded players to qualify as well as having to play any new comers who could be ex bw pros etc


You are wrong. You should probably not comment if you have no idea what you are talking about. The outline for next years tournaments has been laid out and the GSL will no longer be an open tournament.


There wil be an open A tournament and a S-class tournament. So yeah he can still qualify for the A tournament. Then the top A of fight the bottom S for S-class. something like that.




No, it isn't an open A tournament. To qualify for a chance to play in the A tournament you have to be at the top of the ladder (and not in one of the other designations already). So it is clearly very different than the open GSL that was played this year.

I'd love to see your sources because as far as we know there haven't been any official statements. There are rumors of a Code B being created to get entry into Code A and another other rumor is a qualifier for Code A. So yea... You're probably referring to some of the other tournaments GOM is planning to run in '11 (ladder invite/worldwide tournament etc). From what I can gather, the earliest someone can make the GSL without being code A is GSL6.
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Dakmaniac
Profile Joined November 2010
212 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 13:07:46
November 16 2010 13:05 GMT
#5262
ehm get we get back to the topic and stop speculating about seleCT's lifestory ?

i think we all are blatantly wrong in guessing ~.~

mod edit: don't bold your entire post please.
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Anionz
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia105 Posts
November 16 2010 13:06 GMT
#5263
Any update on SeleCTs progress?
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
November 16 2010 13:06 GMT
#5264
Short googling: Select's opponent = NEXNaYa ???
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 16 2010 13:06 GMT
#5265
On November 16 2010 22:05 Dsn4001 wrote:
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On November 16 2010 22:04 dtz wrote:
On November 16 2010 22:02 Dsn4001 wrote:
On November 16 2010 22:00 GTR wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:58 dtz wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:56 Arceus wrote:
pretty sure that SeleCT has double citizenship since he has 18 years in Korea, representing (and winning) Korea in 2 WCGs. Moving to another country doesnt make u lost your citizenship, it's not like SeleCT is a national crime lol


Not every country allows double citizenship though and i think this might affect his mandatory military service ( which is huge for a progamer if you can somehow bypass those)


Korea is one of those countries where if you take up citizenship somewhere else, you cannot get your Korean citizenship back ever.


Wait, that's not right.

Because I have dual citizenship.


Does your Korean government knows about it?
America allows dual citizenship.

I have friends who have dual citizenship for example Korean + American but the Korean government does not know about it because it's not like the American government inform the Korean counterparts that you have acquired a US citizenship

( i could be very wrong here)


Yes, the Korean government knows about it, since I had to register in.

But the deal is probably, that you've been to the korean army, right? Maybe SeleCT indeed dodged that. That could be a reason.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
November 16 2010 13:07 GMT
#5266
Nice to see July qualify
Maxcel
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany18 Posts
November 16 2010 13:07 GMT
#5267
what about that sherif botros guy, is he still in the race? And who is he?
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
November 16 2010 13:07 GMT
#5268
On November 16 2010 22:05 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 21:55 Corrupted wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:52 Endorsed wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:50 Corrupted wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:48 Tommylew wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:46 The KY wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:44 Raidern wrote:
grats team liquid
3/4 is huuuuge! thats really awesome

its a shame huk didn't make it, but he can do it next time hopefully


I don't even think there are any more GSL opens..?

Seems a little bit like HuK's on a fall from grace.


Actually I think the GSLs that will be next year just means he wont be seeded, so hell either have to face seeded players to qualify as well as having to play any new comers who could be ex bw pros etc


You are wrong. You should probably not comment if you have no idea what you are talking about. The outline for next years tournaments has been laid out and the GSL will no longer be an open tournament.


There wil be an open A tournament and a S-class tournament. So yeah he can still qualify for the A tournament. Then the top A of fight the bottom S for S-class. something like that.




No, it isn't an open A tournament. To qualify for a chance to play in the A tournament you have to be at the top of the ladder (and not in one of the other designations already). So it is clearly very different than the open GSL that was played this year.

I'd love to see your sources because as far as we know there haven't been any official statements. There are rumors of a Code B being created to get entry into Code A and another other rumor is a qualifier for Code A. So yea... You're probably referring to some of the other tournaments GOM is planning to run in '11 (ladder invite/worldwide tournament etc). From what I can gather, the earliest someone can make the GSL without being code A is GSL6.


My source is the widely referred to source that everyone has that is an interview with the guy running the tournaments. Feel free to search for it, it is posted in virtually every thread (including this one somewhere), that involves GOM or the GSL.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51699 Posts
November 16 2010 13:07 GMT
#5269
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korean_nationality_law

I guess they changed it recently.
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PyMeH
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria5 Posts
November 16 2010 13:08 GMT
#5270
Info from wiki:

1. The Government of the Republic of Korea does not permit dual citizenship after the age of 21. Koreans with dual citizenship under South Korean law who work or study in South Korea are legal obliged by the Republic of Korea to choose one or the other citizenship soon after reaching that age.

2. According to a senior Justice Ministry official, the South Korean Government plans to legalize dual citizenship for South Koreans who have acquired another nationality/citizenship, as well as foreigners who have married a Korean or lived in South Korea for five years.
A revised nationality law was passed on 21st April 2010 by the Korean National Assembly. It will go into effect on 1st January 2011 and gives a limited number of groups dual citizenship


GL TL! At least 2 of you must be in ro8
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 16 2010 13:09 GMT
#5271
On November 16 2010 22:05 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 22:02 dtz wrote:
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On November 16 2010 22:00 Kreb wrote:
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On November 16 2010 21:59 PartyBiscuit wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:56 Arceus wrote:
pretty sure that SeleCT has double citizenship since he has 18 years in Korea, representing (and winning) Korea in 2 WCGs. Moving to another country doesnt make u lost your citizenship, it's not like SeleCT is a national crime lol

I thought he no longer has Korean citizenship though (this could be blatant misinformation on my part), he said in the Artosis interview he's only allowed to stay in Korea for 6 months.

What would prevent him from staying longer? Some laws?


I think you can't stay in most countries longer than a few months as tourist.

Considering Select is not studying in Korea ( or have a job) he probably is there on tourist visa and thus his stay is limited.

Wouldnt that apply to all GSL foreigners then? So that means Jinro, Idra and others who was there for first GSL would have to move in some 2-3 months?


just go to Busan, take the ferry over to that small japanese island few miles away, and take the ferry back... np for most foreigners from modern western countries (because they don't have to apply for visa, they just get them when entering the country... Had a friend fromcolumbia trying the same... wasn't that easy and funny for him ^.^)

costs you one day and less then 100 USD, you can do it every 89 days (and maybe spent some days there, is quite a nice place)
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
November 16 2010 13:09 GMT
#5272
On November 16 2010 22:05 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 21:55 Corrupted wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:52 Endorsed wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:50 Corrupted wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:48 Tommylew wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:46 The KY wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:44 Raidern wrote:
grats team liquid
3/4 is huuuuge! thats really awesome

its a shame huk didn't make it, but he can do it next time hopefully


I don't even think there are any more GSL opens..?

Seems a little bit like HuK's on a fall from grace.


Actually I think the GSLs that will be next year just means he wont be seeded, so hell either have to face seeded players to qualify as well as having to play any new comers who could be ex bw pros etc


You are wrong. You should probably not comment if you have no idea what you are talking about. The outline for next years tournaments has been laid out and the GSL will no longer be an open tournament.


There wil be an open A tournament and a S-class tournament. So yeah he can still qualify for the A tournament. Then the top A of fight the bottom S for S-class. something like that.




No, it isn't an open A tournament. To qualify for a chance to play in the A tournament you have to be at the top of the ladder (and not in one of the other designations already). So it is clearly very different than the open GSL that was played this year.

I'd love to see your sources because as far as we know there haven't been any official statements. There are rumors of a Code B being created to get entry into Code A and another other rumor is a qualifier for Code A. So yea... You're probably referring to some of the other tournaments GOM is planning to run in '11 (ladder invite/worldwide tournament etc). From what I can gather, the earliest someone can make the GSL without being code A is GSL6.


Which is really unfortunate for Huk, because he has to wait for one season which he cannot participate in, and another season which he must be in the top 32 non A or S class players on bnet, qualify for A-class for that season, THEN qualify for the actual S class GSL tournament assuming he gets top 16 in the A class tournament.

From now to March, he doesn't have any Korean tournaments upcoming.


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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
November 16 2010 13:10 GMT
#5273
On November 16 2010 22:00 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 21:58 dtz wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:56 Arceus wrote:
pretty sure that SeleCT has double citizenship since he has 18 years in Korea, representing (and winning) Korea in 2 WCGs. Moving to another country doesnt make u lost your citizenship, it's not like SeleCT is a national crime lol


Not every country allows double citizenship though and i think this might affect his mandatory military service ( which is huge for a progamer if you can somehow bypass those)


Korea is one of those countries where if you take up citizenship somewhere else, you cannot get your Korean citizenship back ever.


Not necessarily. I know a girl who has a korean / british dual citizenship. Maybe it's different for males but i doubt it.
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Anionz
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia105 Posts
November 16 2010 13:10 GMT
#5274
Wow, SeleCTs game must be taking long.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 16 2010 13:11 GMT
#5275
On November 16 2010 22:10 Anionz wrote:
Wow, SeleCTs game must be taking long.


There might be delays before starting them, like it was for iNControl
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MiNDtriX
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden146 Posts
November 16 2010 13:11 GMT
#5276
On November 16 2010 22:10 Anionz wrote:
Wow, SeleCTs game must be taking long.


lol yeah. Maybe he's floating around with his Orbitals.
I don't rap about bitches and hoes. I rap about witches and trolls.
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
November 16 2010 13:11 GMT
#5277
On November 16 2010 22:09 netherDrake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 22:05 Plexa wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:55 Corrupted wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:52 Endorsed wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:50 Corrupted wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:48 Tommylew wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:46 The KY wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:44 Raidern wrote:
grats team liquid
3/4 is huuuuge! thats really awesome

its a shame huk didn't make it, but he can do it next time hopefully


I don't even think there are any more GSL opens..?

Seems a little bit like HuK's on a fall from grace.


Actually I think the GSLs that will be next year just means he wont be seeded, so hell either have to face seeded players to qualify as well as having to play any new comers who could be ex bw pros etc


You are wrong. You should probably not comment if you have no idea what you are talking about. The outline for next years tournaments has been laid out and the GSL will no longer be an open tournament.


There wil be an open A tournament and a S-class tournament. So yeah he can still qualify for the A tournament. Then the top A of fight the bottom S for S-class. something like that.




No, it isn't an open A tournament. To qualify for a chance to play in the A tournament you have to be at the top of the ladder (and not in one of the other designations already). So it is clearly very different than the open GSL that was played this year.

I'd love to see your sources because as far as we know there haven't been any official statements. There are rumors of a Code B being created to get entry into Code A and another other rumor is a qualifier for Code A. So yea... You're probably referring to some of the other tournaments GOM is planning to run in '11 (ladder invite/worldwide tournament etc). From what I can gather, the earliest someone can make the GSL without being code A is GSL6.


Which is really unfortunate for Huk, because he has to wait for one season which he cannot participate in, and another season which he must be in the top 32 non A or S class players on bnet, qualify for A-class for that season, THEN qualify for the actual S class GSL tournament assuming he gets top 16 in the A class tournament.

From now to March, he doesn't have any Korean tournaments upcoming.




This. My original post still stands. Nowhere did I imply that HuK would never be able to make it into the GSL. My post said that he wouldn't be able to make his way into the top 64 next time like the poster insinuated. He may be able to work his way back into the main GSL tournament after a very long series of qualifications that will likely take a number of months if everything goes right...but like I said, that is very different from the tournaments that took place this year.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
November 16 2010 13:12 GMT
#5278
On November 16 2010 22:05 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 22:02 dtz wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 16 2010 22:00 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 21:59 PartyBiscuit wrote:
On November 16 2010 21:56 Arceus wrote:
pretty sure that SeleCT has double citizenship since he has 18 years in Korea, representing (and winning) Korea in 2 WCGs. Moving to another country doesnt make u lost your citizenship, it's not like SeleCT is a national crime lol

I thought he no longer has Korean citizenship though (this could be blatant misinformation on my part), he said in the Artosis interview he's only allowed to stay in Korea for 6 months.

What would prevent him from staying longer? Some laws?


I think you can't stay in most countries longer than a few months as tourist.

Considering Select is not studying in Korea ( or have a job) he probably is there on tourist visa and thus his stay is limited.

Wouldnt that apply to all GSL foreigners then? So that means Jinro, Idra and others who was there for first GSL would have to move in some 2-3 months?

sorry for keeping up a kind of off topic discussion, but isn't korea like japan in the way that you get 90 days visa and can just leave the country and re enter for renewing it? and if you have a valid reason for returning they are kind of easy with it. so when the TL guys went to dallas i'd imagine they got their korean visas renewed.
Kimmay
Profile Joined November 2010
United States56 Posts
November 16 2010 13:12 GMT
#5279
-.- seriously, stop arguing about the dual citizenship thing. SeleCT is not an american citizen.


any updates on him though?
Astans
Profile Joined October 2010
205 Posts
November 16 2010 13:12 GMT
#5280
I wish GomTV would release a replay pack of the most entertaining qualification matches.
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