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pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
October 16 2010 18:49 GMT
#3001
Great job, IdrA.
connoisseur
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
October 16 2010 18:50 GMT
#3002
Man those forcefields are more or less useless now that roach range is huge.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
klauz619
Profile Joined July 2010
453 Posts
October 16 2010 18:50 GMT
#3003
Roach has always been ridiculous cost for cost especially against protoss.

Their only downside is the 3 range, which doesn't matter much until the unit balls start getting big.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 16 2010 18:50 GMT
#3004
IdrA is too sick!
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
October 16 2010 18:50 GMT
#3005
HuK could have completely raped that army if his zealots hadnt been stuck for an hour
=O
ScarletKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States691 Posts
October 16 2010 18:50 GMT
#3006
loving idras creep spreading.
Looks like I picked the wrong week the quit sniffing glue
Zakka
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands762 Posts
October 16 2010 18:50 GMT
#3007
hydras will do so well with he roaches. Roaches will tank Hydra's will do sick dps.
Amsterdam
ProperOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States102 Posts
October 16 2010 18:51 GMT
#3008
I love huk but hes playing terrible this game =/

Go idra!
Goggalor
Profile Joined August 2010
United States310 Posts
October 16 2010 18:51 GMT
#3009
oh man, its over
We are a way for the cosmos to know itself - Carl Sagan
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
October 16 2010 18:51 GMT
#3010
i think HuK's PvZ is worst than KiWiKaKi's
@ggmonx
Cade)Flayer
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom279 Posts
October 16 2010 18:51 GMT
#3011
Pro corruption
That boys a monster
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
October 16 2010 18:51 GMT
#3012
On October 17 2010 03:42 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 03:38 setzer wrote:
On October 17 2010 03:27 Chen wrote:
On October 17 2010 03:26 setzer wrote:
On October 17 2010 03:23 Bear4188 wrote:
On October 17 2010 03:22 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 17 2010 03:18 kojinshugi wrote:
On October 17 2010 03:16 Alaron wrote:
On October 17 2010 03:15 kojinshugi wrote:
On October 17 2010 03:15 Alaron wrote:
CHEESE FAILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


Forge FE is cheese!

Wait what.


Cannoning rushing again isnt cheese? K keep telling yourself that.

He only put up a cannon at his nat after his cheese failed.

Try harder.


My bad, a perfectly visible worker building a cannon in front of the other player to stop an expansion going down is cheese.

My last comment regarding cheese:

Yes it is. Why? Cause it's a failed cheese which results in losing when your opponent plays well.


Kiwi lost because he did a forge FE which no longer works in 1.1.2 with the roach buff.


Why doesn't it work? Hydras have more range in BW and its a very viable strategy. Maybe it Kiwi spent more time mining and not placing useless pylons/cannons he would have been in a better position.

roaches have 65 more hp and 1 more armor plus beat zlots
hydras lost to zlots in low #s


You can get a huge amount of hydras with a 3h allin hydra bust, and slow zealots wouldn't do much against the upgraded zealots.

I don't think forge FE is a dead strategy, I just think Kiwi's progression in the game lead him to die against Idra's mass roach rush. Everything Idra did forced Kiwi to build unnecessary buildings that may have been used for forward cannons/units that could have held that attack off.

you can get a huge amount of roaches too? same cost apart from supply, so in effect its 100/25 when factoring OL's. 2 hatch with queen in sc2=3hatch in BW. and its not really that zlots actually beat hydras its just that they tanked really well. if hydras rushed to kill cannons zlots could attack, if hydras attacked zlots cannons got free shots off and toss got more time to tech/cannon up because zlots could eat ~25 hits each from hydras.


Obviously if you are ready you can easily die, I just think its too early to call whether the strategy is dead based on one game where Kiwi made many mistakes and Idra played flawlessly. Zealots won't stop the hydras in the bust, the cannons do and I think its probably the same against the roaches. Even if you lose gateway/forge you still have the cannons to defend your expansion.

Either way, forge expand can still be viable opening on certain maps and positions. Gateway openings in those positions probably would have been better. Kiwi is a micro player and definitely plays better when he is on the aggressive and is able to dictate.
Sramota
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden183 Posts
October 16 2010 18:51 GMT
#3013
Pancake his opponent?
FUMP!
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
October 16 2010 18:52 GMT
#3014
Great use of Contamination.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
October 16 2010 18:52 GMT
#3015
Fucking incredible.
connoisseur
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
October 16 2010 18:52 GMT
#3016
Roaches >> everything toss has except Collossus/immortal probably
axejaw
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom171 Posts
October 16 2010 18:52 GMT
#3017
IdrA is AWESOME
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
October 16 2010 18:52 GMT
#3018
CONTAMINATION!!!!
odder
Profile Joined April 2010
United States405 Posts
October 16 2010 18:52 GMT
#3019
idra gg!
Friend23
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland270 Posts
October 16 2010 18:52 GMT
#3020
nooooooooooooooooooo gooo huuukk!!!
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