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Arkless
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1547 Posts
September 03 2010 03:45 GMT
#1401
Yeah, but they can put up a free stream with ads in it. They would make way more in the end that way, because myself as well as ALOT if not MOST or ALL of the north american sc2 pop will not pay for this, and watch it streamed elsewhere. Infact, i would rather chip into one gom account, then release on ustream for free just to thwart them. The esports in NA is still growing, and we need to get everything out their possible, making ppl pay for vods and matches is hindering that greatly!
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Carl_Sagan
Profile Joined March 2010
United States226 Posts
September 03 2010 03:49 GMT
#1402
Me and four friends will not be watching if payment is the only option.
xenom00t
Profile Joined February 2009
United States162 Posts
September 03 2010 03:54 GMT
#1403
sad to say gomtv lost another faithful viewer :[
IdrA, letting me know its OK to rage :]
TheDoK666
Profile Joined May 2010
France179 Posts
September 03 2010 03:56 GMT
#1404
gomtv wants to track and ban every ppl streaming vod or live for free so we need to find a way but we will try i guess ... btw having at least the gom player working is already a risky adventure xD
pwet
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States966 Posts
September 03 2010 04:12 GMT
#1405
Undecided If I will pay to watch but would have gladly donated (as I assumed there was going to be coverage).

From a marketing standpoint, I will have to say that this is a terrible decision, especially at the listed price. I'm sure you would get more viewers and generate more money for a lower price.

Also for an inaugural event I don't think that the current pricing strategy is a very good idea, unless the organizers went a bit overboard with the prize pool and are trying to recuperate it. (Which I'm fairly certain is a strong possibility, since they wanted the publicity from boasting the tournament).


Hopefully there will be bare minimum in terms of advertisements on the stream, other than to give Nick and Artosis a few minutes break.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
Obelisk7
Profile Joined January 2010
Korea (South)65 Posts
September 03 2010 04:31 GMT
#1406
Low quality free stream
HD paid high stream
Free VOD viewing

DVD/Blu-Ray merchandise with recorded live broadcasts, interviews, and behind the scenes.
Advertising team shirts to sale on the main site for all the pro teams.

THAT personally is what I would go for.
Take Nothing For Granted, For Everything Changes.
dante`afk
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom40 Posts
September 03 2010 04:32 GMT
#1407
hope someone gonna restream -_-
Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 04:41:15
September 03 2010 04:35 GMT
#1408
On September 03 2010 12:37 Cedstick wrote:
Ordained, I don't think you understand the complete backstory. You'd have a lot less sympathy for KeSPA and related affairs if you knew how big a jackass KeSPA was being about Brood War rights.

Yes, this fee is kind of ridiculous, but at the same time they need to fund this "foreign" side of their venture somehow, and it looks like they're trying to accomodate us anyway. As for the "people who don't want to watch it," they do want to watch it. They just aren't being charged because of how mainstream and stable competitive gaming is in Korea -- it's got huge advertisers and is on two network TV stations devoted to gaming -- they don't have to charge. It's a lot smaller an audience with "foreigners," and they don't have the same corporate backing on that side of the project is my guess.

I would much rather see a smaller prize pool if it meant that college students could watch it, I already went hungry for a week to buy SC2 (dont have a full time job while going to college) and now I wont be able to watch something that I have been looking forward to.

I know Kespa are a bunch of dicks but so is Gom and so is Blizzard for that matter. I can understand Gom wanting a huge amount of viewers in Korea so they can get bigger names for the tournaments but killing off BW is no way to get BW pros to warm up to SC2. The way Gom is going about this whole situation is wrong.

Edit: Yes, I do think I have a good idea of the back story, I have read every thread that I could dig up on this no matter how old. I know that Gom got exclusive rights to broadcast Starcraft for $1 and when Kespa tried to charge them for broadcasting BW with Kespa pros, Gom refused.

After that Kespa took their pros from the Gom Classic and Gom went under, which is why we haven't seen Tasteless in a while. Gom was never the best of the stations either, they were always the second class citizen. They just had English commentary.

"You are not trying to win, you are trying to be awesome" -Day[9]
rell
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1 Post
September 03 2010 04:35 GMT
#1409
there will be streams from others available im sure for every event so probly not anything to really worry about, too big of a community to stop

gomtv fail
Nameless Joker
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada7 Posts
September 03 2010 04:37 GMT
#1410
This is a shame. I've been a GOM watcher ever since the beginning of Season 2. It was disappointing when the Valor tournament became a pay-to-watch. You'll also notice that 15x as many people watched the Intel Classic opposed to Valor.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
September 03 2010 04:41 GMT
#1411
I totally agree, Ordained, that neither party is innocent, and as I said, the pricing is pretty ridiculous. Remember, though, that it looks like they're pretty willing to negotiate given the backlash. Hopefully they work a different format out.

I really wouldn't mind ads, as everyone should be used to them with the OGN/MBC network TV structure. The problem there is securing enough advertisors at the last minute.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 04:52:10
September 03 2010 04:51 GMT
#1412
The main thing I dont understand is why Intel paid for ESL to have a free stream but wont do it for this, which is a much bigger tournament. The official name is TG Intel Starcraft Open. I am just raging because they seem pretty anti Proleague and anti foreigner. Former I like and latter I am.

God speed TorcH
"You are not trying to win, you are trying to be awesome" -Day[9]
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
September 03 2010 04:53 GMT
#1413
On September 03 2010 13:31 Obelisk7 wrote:
Low quality free stream
HD paid high stream
Free VOD viewing

DVD/Blu-Ray merchandise with recorded live broadcasts, interviews, and behind the scenes.
Advertising team shirts to sale on the main site for all the pro teams.

THAT personally is what I would go for.


This would be perfect. I would even pay for VODs if it would be for a year or something. This would probably be the best way to attract viewers. If they really like the content, they would pay to rewatch, watch in better quality, and get merchandise.
Obelisk7
Profile Joined January 2010
Korea (South)65 Posts
September 03 2010 05:11 GMT
#1414
Whoever came up with Gom's current idea is not well-researched in who, exactly, is watching the streams and what age group they are dealing with.

GomTV AINT Blizzard. You can't get paid when people don't like what you do. Only Blizzard gets away with that :/
Take Nothing For Granted, For Everything Changes.
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
September 03 2010 05:26 GMT
#1415
I'd like to pay. I don't really understand why it should be completely free.

That said, 20 $ is a bit much for me unfortunately
Skeyser
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada219 Posts
September 03 2010 05:27 GMT
#1416
20$ for a LQ stream is robbery

30$ for VODS? I have no words.
nutrage
Profile Joined July 2010
United States17 Posts
September 03 2010 05:33 GMT
#1417
--------------------------o-- When i first heard about gsl. now 0 ----------------------------------
all the pros play terran
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
September 03 2010 05:39 GMT
#1418
Personally this totally changes my mind when it comes to Blizz/GOM vs Kespa. Before I was in the middle on the whole thing but after this how can anyone support Blizz's side? Kespa has their faults sure but they've provided free viewing for years of MSL/OSL/Proleague which has way higher quality players than GSL. Now Blizz/GOM comes in and expects people to pay 50$ to a watch a brand new tourney for a new game. Pretty obvious at this point that they only care about $$ and don't give 2 shits about "e-sport"
BFCrimson
Profile Joined August 2010
United States176 Posts
September 03 2010 05:41 GMT
#1419
Is anyone else anxiously awaiting an update from Torch? Maybe I'm a little optimistic but I'm a believer in Wheat's connections and Torch seems to be able to get noticed by people that matter (granted being qualified for the GSL probably helps). Crossing my fingers even though I bought my 2 tickets for Day 1/2
Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
September 03 2010 05:46 GMT
#1420
Here's another update. They are acting quite nonchalantly about the whole issue.
Hello everyone,



Many of you are very curious about your bandwidth check result.

We can explain how the bandwidth check works on GOMtv.net



Your result shows the internet connection between your computer and our server. Even though you have a very high internet connection in your area,

if you are located in where far from our server, the result would be low.



GOMtv.net server is located in the west of the US and if you stay in Europe or other country, you might have limited speed.

That is why we recommend you do bandwidth check before watching live broadcasting or purchasing the ticket.



We are trying hard to provide better service and sorry for inconvenience this issue may cause.

We will keep up the posting to make you better understand our service.



Thank you.
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