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MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-16 06:52:47
April 16 2017 06:51 GMT
#1421
On April 16 2017 06:18 Ryu3600 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2017 16:26 MockHamill wrote:
This is my current gameplan in TvP. Anyting I need to change?

Opening

Defensive marine/tank. Only expand is Protoss expands. Blind turret in mineral line and behind wall to natural.

Midgame
Defensive tank/mine plus a few vikings. Get 4 factories(2 Tech, 2 Reactor) and a starport. Do a couple of widow mine drops. Prioritie armour uppgrades so that carriers do less damage in the late game. Two sensor towers to spot incomming attacks. Check at 7.30 to see if he is going air. If he stays on ground add one more factory. If he goes air go up to 4 starports for BC production.

Late game

Battlecruicers from 4 starports. Use widow mines to protect BCs from void rays and blink stalkers. Add ravens against tempest, tanks against mass stalkers, hellbats if he is not going mass air.


Try opening banshee 1 widow 6 marine medivac drop (or 1 cyclone 4 marines) into banshee I think its a pretty good aggro opener to put pressure on toss so they know to back off


I have found it very risky trying to attack Protos early. If my medivac is at his base it means I have not much to defend his attack on my main/natural. Meanwhile Protoss have shoting pylons and warp-ins.
Slayer1234
Profile Joined April 2017
18 Posts
April 18 2017 14:46 GMT
#1422
How do you play TvT,
Ryu3600
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada470 Posts
April 18 2017 17:31 GMT
#1423
On April 18 2017 23:46 Slayer1234 wrote:
How do you play TvT,


Playing TvT is like playing chess almost. It is very slow and very position based. The army compositions can range from:
Biotank, Mech, TripleMBio(Not good), Skymech and even mass raven. In most TvT's its Biotank vs Biotank. Biotank is consistent of Marines Siege Tanks and Medivacs. The composition is heavily reliant on micro and knowing when and where to siege. At the start of TvT, you will want to open 1 base. Most people open 2 Reaper 1 cyclone or 2 Reaper 1 Hellion into double ravens. The build I prefer to run is 2 reaper 1 hellion. However, you can open with the standard Reaper expand. An example of how TvT can be played is here
. TvT can be very complicated though so if this doesn't help you send me a pm and I can teach you TvT more thoroughly.








Maru is the best Terran ever.
Slayer1234
Profile Joined April 2017
18 Posts
April 18 2017 18:05 GMT
#1424
Ah okay so the skyterran isn't good?
Ryu3600
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada470 Posts
April 18 2017 18:26 GMT
#1425
On April 19 2017 03:05 Slayer1234 wrote:
Ah okay so the skyterran isn't good?


Uh not really. Not early game vs T atleast. Most people will go mech into Viking Raven which is typically the best late game composition. Apart from that Id stick to learning either mech (Hellbat Tank Viking) Or Biotank (Marine Tank Medivac)
Maru is the best Terran ever.
Slayer1234
Profile Joined April 2017
18 Posts
April 18 2017 18:57 GMT
#1426
Okay thx i continue to play on ladder regulary for improve. So i will use bio tank thx very much
Ryu3600
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada470 Posts
April 18 2017 21:20 GMT
#1427
On April 19 2017 03:57 Slayer1234 wrote:
Okay thx i continue to play on ladder regulary for improve. So i will use bio tank thx very much



No problem rmbr just let me know if you're having difficulty I don't mind going into game to help you out :D Us Terrans gotta look out for one another ya know? :D
Maru is the best Terran ever.
Slayer1234
Profile Joined April 2017
18 Posts
April 19 2017 12:09 GMT
#1428
Thx very much i m french and i play in europe if you want we can improve
Ryu3600
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada470 Posts
April 19 2017 12:51 GMT
#1429
On April 19 2017 21:09 Slayer1234 wrote:
Thx very much i m french and i play in europe if you want we can improve


Haha yeah sure I am Canadian I play in the Americas servers but I don't mind hopping onto EU if you want to PM me your Bnet I can add you when get the chance and ill show you what I do in TvT
Maru is the best Terran ever.
Slayer1234
Profile Joined April 2017
18 Posts
April 19 2017 12:54 GMT
#1430
Okay thx very much
Haole_Catt
Profile Joined March 2017
10 Posts
April 22 2017 07:06 GMT
#1431
Is there a better way to assign SCVs to gas than manually clicking on them one at a time.? or for any other project for that matter?
Ryu3600
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada470 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-22 13:44:58
April 22 2017 13:44 GMT
#1432
On April 22 2017 16:06 Haole_Catt wrote:
Is there a better way to assign SCVs to gas than manually clicking on them one at a time.? or for any other project for that matter?


before the gas finishes I drag select the extra two I need and move them but if its a new base completely and I am bringing all my units to a completely new base or base I had to run from (due to harass) you grab all the workers you want and click them onto the gas you can hold shift and click off 3 scv's. Then send 3 to the next gas shift click off 3 and send the rest to the mineral field. This trick is very often seen on Avilo's stream but its the easy way to put guys onto stuff
Maru is the best Terran ever.
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3144 Posts
April 22 2017 14:12 GMT
#1433
On April 22 2017 16:06 Haole_Catt wrote:
Is there a better way to assign SCVs to gas than manually clicking on them one at a time.? or for any other project for that matter?


It's called cloning and every good players use it :
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37124 Posts
May 01 2017 02:17 GMT
#1434
So... I've been on a TvZ losing streak lately :/

I feel like 2-1-1 is too overplayed and every zerg knows how to respond against it now. What are some other TvZ strategies that exist right now that I could try learning?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Ryu3600
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada470 Posts
May 01 2017 02:50 GMT
#1435
On May 01 2017 11:17 Seeker wrote:
So... I've been on a TvZ losing streak lately :/

I feel like 2-1-1 is too overplayed and every zerg knows how to respond against it now. What are some other TvZ strategies that exist right now that I could try learning?


So first the 2-1-1 works just not on all maps and with a certain follow-up. Do the quicker 1-1 variant as it is stronger than the 3rd first. Secondly, you may find these builds very useful

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/46270/

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/43314/

Otherbuilds would be Hellbat Banshee (Hellion Banshee with armory (8-2/3 Hellion:Banshee)
or Hellbat Raven Banshee (8 hellbats 1 raven 1-2 banshee)


If you want more help let me know in PM ill show you my other builds in game
Maru is the best Terran ever.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37124 Posts
May 01 2017 03:21 GMT
#1436
On May 01 2017 11:50 Ryu3600 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 11:17 Seeker wrote:
So... I've been on a TvZ losing streak lately :/

I feel like 2-1-1 is too overplayed and every zerg knows how to respond against it now. What are some other TvZ strategies that exist right now that I could try learning?


So first the 2-1-1 works just not on all maps and with a certain follow-up. Do the quicker 1-1 variant as it is stronger than the 3rd first. Secondly, you may find these builds very useful

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/46270/

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/43314/

Otherbuilds would be Hellbat Banshee (Hellion Banshee with armory (8-2/3 Hellion:Banshee)
or Hellbat Raven Banshee (8 hellbats 1 raven 1-2 banshee)


If you want more help let me know in PM ill show you my other builds in game

So which maps does 2-1-1 not work on?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Ryu3600
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada470 Posts
May 01 2017 12:28 GMT
#1437
On May 01 2017 12:21 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 11:50 Ryu3600 wrote:
On May 01 2017 11:17 Seeker wrote:
So... I've been on a TvZ losing streak lately :/

I feel like 2-1-1 is too overplayed and every zerg knows how to respond against it now. What are some other TvZ strategies that exist right now that I could try learning?


So first the 2-1-1 works just not on all maps and with a certain follow-up. Do the quicker 1-1 variant as it is stronger than the 3rd first. Secondly, you may find these builds very useful

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/46270/

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/43314/

Otherbuilds would be Hellbat Banshee (Hellion Banshee with armory (8-2/3 Hellion:Banshee)
or Hellbat Raven Banshee (8 hellbats 1 raven 1-2 banshee)


If you want more help let me know in PM ill show you my other builds in game

So which maps does 2-1-1 not work on?


I wouldn't do the 2-1-1 on like Paladino or Honorgrounds. I prefer doing it on Cactus, Bel'shir, Proxima and sometimes Abyssal. On Paladino, Abyssal and Honorgrounds just open hellion. Oh and on newkirk do that RFE 3CC (3rax 1 fac fast 3cc/3CC4Hellion)
Maru is the best Terran ever.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37124 Posts
May 02 2017 02:06 GMT
#1438
On May 01 2017 21:28 Ryu3600 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 12:21 Seeker wrote:
On May 01 2017 11:50 Ryu3600 wrote:
On May 01 2017 11:17 Seeker wrote:
So... I've been on a TvZ losing streak lately :/

I feel like 2-1-1 is too overplayed and every zerg knows how to respond against it now. What are some other TvZ strategies that exist right now that I could try learning?


So first the 2-1-1 works just not on all maps and with a certain follow-up. Do the quicker 1-1 variant as it is stronger than the 3rd first. Secondly, you may find these builds very useful

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/46270/

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/43314/

Otherbuilds would be Hellbat Banshee (Hellion Banshee with armory (8-2/3 Hellion:Banshee)
or Hellbat Raven Banshee (8 hellbats 1 raven 1-2 banshee)


If you want more help let me know in PM ill show you my other builds in game

So which maps does 2-1-1 not work on?


I wouldn't do the 2-1-1 on like Paladino or Honorgrounds. I prefer doing it on Cactus, Bel'shir, Proxima and sometimes Abyssal. On Paladino, Abyssal and Honorgrounds just open hellion. Oh and on newkirk do that RFE 3CC (3rax 1 fac fast 3cc/3CC4Hellion)

Could you explain why you wouldn't do the 2-1-1 on Paladino or Honorgrounds?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Duckman
Profile Joined August 2009
United States158 Posts
May 02 2017 17:51 GMT
#1439
On May 02 2017 11:06 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 21:28 Ryu3600 wrote:
On May 01 2017 12:21 Seeker wrote:
On May 01 2017 11:50 Ryu3600 wrote:
On May 01 2017 11:17 Seeker wrote:
So... I've been on a TvZ losing streak lately :/

I feel like 2-1-1 is too overplayed and every zerg knows how to respond against it now. What are some other TvZ strategies that exist right now that I could try learning?


So first the 2-1-1 works just not on all maps and with a certain follow-up. Do the quicker 1-1 variant as it is stronger than the 3rd first. Secondly, you may find these builds very useful

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/46270/

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/43314/

Otherbuilds would be Hellbat Banshee (Hellion Banshee with armory (8-2/3 Hellion:Banshee)
or Hellbat Raven Banshee (8 hellbats 1 raven 1-2 banshee)


If you want more help let me know in PM ill show you my other builds in game

So which maps does 2-1-1 not work on?


I wouldn't do the 2-1-1 on like Paladino or Honorgrounds. I prefer doing it on Cactus, Bel'shir, Proxima and sometimes Abyssal. On Paladino, Abyssal and Honorgrounds just open hellion. Oh and on newkirk do that RFE 3CC (3rax 1 fac fast 3cc/3CC4Hellion)

Could you explain why you wouldn't do the 2-1-1 on Paladino or Honorgrounds?
Natural close to main, 3rd close to main, easier for Zerg to get between bases to defend I reckon.
Ryu3600
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada470 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-02 17:58:51
May 02 2017 17:57 GMT
#1440
On May 02 2017 11:06 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2017 21:28 Ryu3600 wrote:
On May 01 2017 12:21 Seeker wrote:
On May 01 2017 11:50 Ryu3600 wrote:
On May 01 2017 11:17 Seeker wrote:
So... I've been on a TvZ losing streak lately :/

I feel like 2-1-1 is too overplayed and every zerg knows how to respond against it now. What are some other TvZ strategies that exist right now that I could try learning?


So first the 2-1-1 works just not on all maps and with a certain follow-up. Do the quicker 1-1 variant as it is stronger than the 3rd first. Secondly, you may find these builds very useful

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/46270/

http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/43314/

Otherbuilds would be Hellbat Banshee (Hellion Banshee with armory (8-2/3 Hellion:Banshee)
or Hellbat Raven Banshee (8 hellbats 1 raven 1-2 banshee)


If you want more help let me know in PM ill show you my other builds in game

So which maps does 2-1-1 not work on?


I wouldn't do the 2-1-1 on like Paladino or Honorgrounds. I prefer doing it on Cactus, Bel'shir, Proxima and sometimes Abyssal. On Paladino, Abyssal and Honorgrounds just open hellion. Oh and on newkirk do that RFE 3CC (3rax 1 fac fast 3cc/3CC4Hellion)

Could you explain why you wouldn't do the 2-1-1 on Paladino or Honorgrounds?


On Paladino the 2-1-1 is not a safe build at all. Most All-ins will straight up just kill you. It is better to open hellion banshee on that map in my opinion. On Honorgrounds it is mostly preference but I just find a hellion opener to be the much stronger opener, Because (Since I know you'll ask why) The ramp on honorgrounds is hella hard to block sneaking in hellions into the main or natural is so easy. And you can do very greedy fast third bases on that map and deny creep instead if you prefer. Also at the moment, I think most Terrans are finding Hellion/Raven, Hellbat/Banshee and quick 3rd's with Hellion builds to be more dominant. Aside from that I just feel safer doing those builds. Personally, I love the 4Hellion3CC build the best but I like to throw hellbat banshee games in my games every now and then
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