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snrub
Canada20 Posts
been having lots of trouble in TvZ against roach/ravager into roach/hydra. I find that in the early-mid games when I try to counter them with tanks the ravagers just destroy the tanks too quickly and the roaches just melt the rest of my army despite upgrade advantage. What is a good composition to fight off roach/rav? | ||
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
Leapfrog tanks, unsiege a couple and shift-siege them so the zerg can never catch you unsieged. If you use that composition and aren't completely unsieged on creep and lose, it's a macro issue. | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
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Epitoi
20 Posts
https://www.fichier-rar.fr/2016/12/03/tvz-4thors-replaypack/ a-move build 83% winrate diamond level | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
How the hell do you counter swarmhosts??? | ||
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Lyyna
France776 Posts
Also doabl with a hellion / SCV - tho it gets problematic if he's "clever" enough to notjust A move the locusts | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
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Lyyna
France776 Posts
And when it comes to making banshees / lib - my winrate in TvZ since the patch has been closely linked to how close to 100% my starport is allocating time to ravens | ||
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IVOie
Ireland8 Posts
Trying to find some but no luck. | ||
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Ryu3600
Canada469 Posts
On December 07 2016 02:54 IVOie wrote: Would anyone have any replays from pros for TvX for this patch? Trying to find some but no luck. IEM Gyeonggi should have a lot of good ones if you want a TvT build I just wrote one up on Spawning Tool http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/41668/ | ||
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IVOie
Ireland8 Posts
On December 07 2016 04:04 Ryu3600 wrote: IEM Gyeonggi should have a lot of good ones if you want a TvT build I just wrote one up on Spawning Tool http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/41668/ Thank you, my TvT is the weakest match up right now, its really a hit or miss for me. | ||
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Ryu3600
Canada469 Posts
On December 07 2016 04:40 IVOie wrote: Thank you, my TvT is the weakest match up right now, its really a hit or miss for me. Oh dude awesome im like 8 wins 1 loss with this build. (Only lost 1 game vs cheese) I think this build and the vod will explain the match up very well for you  | ||
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IVOie
Ireland8 Posts
On December 07 2016 04:42 Ryu3600 wrote: Oh dude awesome im like 8 wins 1 loss with this build. (Only lost 1 game vs cheese) I think this build and the vod will explain the match up very well for you I studied it a good bit, the bo is a great starting off point that i was looking for. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
On December 07 2016 04:04 Ryu3600 wrote: IEM Gyeonggi should have a lot of good ones if you want a TvT build I just wrote one up on Spawning Tool http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/41668/ doesn't this die to hellion reaper pressure since you only have a reaper and a few marines for defense? or can you defend with good micro? | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
especially mass roach | ||
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Ryu3600
Canada469 Posts
On December 07 2016 09:36 Charoisaur wrote: doesn't this die to hellion reaper pressure since you only have a reaper and a few marines for defense? or can you defend with good micro? You can defend with good micro not to mention by the time a big force arrives you'll have a widow which usually makes it so they have to screw off. Just make sure you don't move your reaper out (2 player maps) until you kill theirs. (If you scout a reaper expand that is) | ||
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Ryu3600
Canada469 Posts
On December 07 2016 17:51 Incognoto wrote: What is the best way to deal with zergs these days? especially mass roach So against mass roach you want to just make a giant tank line at your base and drop all over. Think of it like this you're throwing away 8 marines and 1 medivac each time to kill workers and queens. Sure you lose some units but Zerg can never break your tankline and at the end of it all one player has a huge economy the other just has some roaches and hardly any drones. (Libs are an option too) But yeah just make marauders and tanks and drop whenever he goes to attack you. Roaches are so slow that if hes on your side and you're on his side hes bound to lose something! :D | ||
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Damien
Brazil131 Posts
P.S. - I've noticed that my first push was not good. Need I to do that? Attacking when hold his poke? I'm thinking about cut widow mines and produce liberators. http://ggtracker.com/matches/6892323 | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On December 07 2016 22:24 Ryu3600 wrote: So against mass roach you want to just make a giant tank line at your base and drop all over. Think of it like this you're throwing away 8 marines and 1 medivac each time to kill workers and queens. Sure you lose some units but Zerg can never break your tankline and at the end of it all one player has a huge economy the other just has some roaches and hardly any drones. (Libs are an option too) But yeah just make marauders and tanks and drop whenever he goes to attack you. Roaches are so slow that if hes on your side and you're on his side hes bound to lose something! :D Will try to go that route. I've been doing strange old version of Forgg's hellbat pushes and have been losing horribly. Feels bad. Will go for tank+drops, thanks | ||
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Ryu3600
Canada469 Posts
On December 07 2016 22:30 Incognoto wrote: Will try to go that route. I've been doing strange old version of Forgg's hellbat pushes and have been losing horribly. Feels bad. Will go for tank+drops, thanks No problem if you ever need more help let me know I can try to find some time to look at your replays and give you some ingame examples? | ||
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