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xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4067 Posts
December 26 2014 01:23 GMT
#41
I might switch to protoss, just for the title of these threads.

"Big book of 10pool bullshit"...

...
said no one ever T_T

<3 things - Life | Kane | Innovation | Scarlett | Solar | MMA
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-26 01:42:52
December 26 2014 01:26 GMT
#42
--- Nuked ---
Centerfold
Profile Joined December 2014
Canada45 Posts
December 26 2014 01:42 GMT
#43
On December 26 2014 10:23 xtorn wrote:
I might switch to protoss, just for the title of these threads.

"Big book of 10pool bullshit"...

...
said no one ever T_T



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/469490-zvp-an-aggressive-playstyle-guide

DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46537 Posts
December 26 2014 03:04 GMT
#44
God bless these two books!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
vhapter
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil677 Posts
December 26 2014 04:08 GMT
#45
The PvT 5 gate all in was sick on Habitation Station. You could easily hide your gates at the bottom of the map when most players were worried about proxy stargates at the gold bases and stuff like that... then gg ezpz
To live is to fight, to fight is to live!
Kommatiazo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States579 Posts
December 26 2014 04:27 GMT
#46
Teo's signature has been one of my favorites on this forum for a long time now. I started as Protoss in SC2, coming from Zerg in BW and he really helped me. Now I'm back to Zerg, but I still love reading your guys' articles.

Great stuff Sated. I especially love the cutting through the BS you do about people mindset and view of the ladder. I'll try to be less mad next time I have one of these builds used on me. :D
"You must enemy don't know, and very good micro" - Bosstoss #Wet4Ret
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
December 26 2014 07:02 GMT
#47
i know a lot more stupid shit that even works in gm.
works better on maps where you know the spawn locations though, can scout earlier or double scout in some cases on other maps.

how about:
PvT 10 gate
--> crono out 2 stalkers
--> proxy stargate with 3rd pylon
--> build 2 more gates
--> 3 gate voidray allin
doesnt work vs 1 base tech builds though, have to build robo twilight in base then and go for 4 gate blink

PvP Cannonrush still works on some maps - i still win a decent amount of games even if they scout the pylon, cuz they dont pull enough probes and i can build the first cannon in so that only 2 probes can attack it.
cannon 2 and 3 in reach of their nexus, build probes at home in the meanwhile and get a stalker out vs their mothercore immediatly, while having a cannon at ur ramp (first pylon has to be close enough to the ramp to make a cannon there).
you have to be smart to pull this off though, some ppl just build a new nexus, some build voidray, some get over to you with all probes and units they have immediatly.

PvZ - 12 forge at your natural, go over with the probe who build the forge and immediatly pylon --> scout mainbase --> 1 cannon in the middle of their natural.
if he doenst pull more than 3 drones, build 2 more cannons, if he pull enough probes, just cancel, build probes at all times, build nexus block 3rd with ur probe, you shouldnt be behind. also make sure to scout around for hidden bases / proxy hatches / scout gas timing if you can - ive lost games to nydus 1 base before.
again, you have be smart and anticipate the reaction of your opponent more than usually.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
December 26 2014 07:03 GMT
#48
Someone get Catz to write some Zerg bullshit. Or just study Catz/soO/Solar VODS I guess.

#RaceEquality
-
Roadog
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1670 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-26 09:13:50
December 26 2014 08:18 GMT
#49
I've been trying NeverDie's 8gate DT drop in PvZ myself. It's a lot like a Tasteless "the correct response to Zealot pressure is to make Spores" kind of build. It seems something like this was mentioned in the old PvZ guide as well.

The first book of bullshit was already more than I could handle, my body was not ready for another one! Great job.
sOs fan. Zerg just seem to have the most...potential. Dubbo Robo Colo! Why I play Protoss: Stalkers, bacon, toilets and mama -- Chelsea FC
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
December 26 2014 10:08 GMT
#50
It seems something like this was mentioned in the old PvZ guide as well.


Guess who wrote about that >.>
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
December 26 2014 11:34 GMT
#51
On December 26 2014 16:03 Motlu wrote:
Someone get Catz to write some Zerg bullshit. Or just study Catz/soO/Solar VODS I guess.

#RaceEquality

only one I can remember is hatch block in the wall on Catallena vs Nexus first

also roach/ling all-in in ZvT that kills everytime unless Terran makes a tank (and it hits at like 8:00)
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
December 26 2014 12:09 GMT
#52
On December 26 2014 20:34 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2014 16:03 Motlu wrote:
Someone get Catz to write some Zerg bullshit. Or just study Catz/soO/Solar VODS I guess.

#RaceEquality

only one I can remember is hatch block in the wall on Catallena vs Nexus first

also roach/ling all-in in ZvT that kills everytime unless Terran makes a tank (and it hits at like 8:00)


There are like a thousand variants of hatch blocks and shit. Watch soO, Life or Scarlett the last six months
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
December 26 2014 12:11 GMT
#53
On December 26 2014 21:09 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2014 20:34 Alchemik wrote:
On December 26 2014 16:03 Motlu wrote:
Someone get Catz to write some Zerg bullshit. Or just study Catz/soO/Solar VODS I guess.

#RaceEquality

only one I can remember is hatch block in the wall on Catallena vs Nexus first

also roach/ling all-in in ZvT that kills everytime unless Terran makes a tank (and it hits at like 8:00)


There are like a thousand variants of hatch blocks and shit. Watch soO, Life or Scarlett the last six months

yeah but most of them come out even or behind at the end (outside of Life's all-in proxy hatch and Scarlett's in-base roach burrow)

but 2 base nydus swarm host in ZvP is a fairly good bullshit, do that
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
December 26 2014 12:24 GMT
#54
On December 26 2014 21:11 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2014 21:09 Heartland wrote:
On December 26 2014 20:34 Alchemik wrote:
On December 26 2014 16:03 Motlu wrote:
Someone get Catz to write some Zerg bullshit. Or just study Catz/soO/Solar VODS I guess.

#RaceEquality

only one I can remember is hatch block in the wall on Catallena vs Nexus first

also roach/ling all-in in ZvT that kills everytime unless Terran makes a tank (and it hits at like 8:00)


There are like a thousand variants of hatch blocks and shit. Watch soO, Life or Scarlett the last six months

yeah but most of them come out even or behind at the end (outside of Life's all-in proxy hatch and Scarlett's in-base roach burrow)

but 2 base nydus swarm host in ZvP is a fairly good bullshit, do that


soO turned his series vs Zest around through those builds, so I disagree
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
December 26 2014 12:53 GMT
#55
2base baneling drops
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
December 26 2014 13:01 GMT
#56
On December 26 2014 21:53 Teoita wrote:
2base baneling drops

wasn't it 1 base?
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
December 26 2014 13:04 GMT
#57
Pretty sure it was off2base, lair+banes+ol speed+ol drops off one base doesnt sound very realistic, and it's much easier to scout
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 26 2014 14:01 GMT
#58
On December 26 2014 20:34 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2014 16:03 Motlu wrote:
Someone get Catz to write some Zerg bullshit. Or just study Catz/soO/Solar VODS I guess.

#RaceEquality

only one I can remember is hatch block in the wall on Catallena vs Nexus first

also roach/ling all-in in ZvT that kills everytime unless Terran makes a tank (and it hits at like 8:00)


There was also that sick first ovie snipe with the spore crawler in ZvZ, though not a build per se and more like a trick, but damn hilarious (maybe a build to pull if you manage to kill it?)
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Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
December 26 2014 14:16 GMT
#59
On December 26 2014 23:01 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2014 20:34 Alchemik wrote:
On December 26 2014 16:03 Motlu wrote:
Someone get Catz to write some Zerg bullshit. Or just study Catz/soO/Solar VODS I guess.

#RaceEquality

only one I can remember is hatch block in the wall on Catallena vs Nexus first

also roach/ling all-in in ZvT that kills everytime unless Terran makes a tank (and it hits at like 8:00)


There was also that sick first ovie snipe with the spore crawler in ZvZ, though not a build per se and more like a trick, but damn hilarious (maybe a build to pull if you manage to kill it?)

Solar tried a 10 pool spore, almost worked
PSIDefenseUp
Profile Joined January 2011
United States251 Posts
December 26 2014 17:41 GMT
#60
These builds are so inspiring. I have to get back on ladder soon.
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