EPT[G] Protoss: Stupid Shit That Works On Ladder - Page 5
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Teoita
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SatedSC2
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TelecoM
United States10708 Posts
On January 02 2015 07:09 SatedSC2 wrote: I take it you didn't bother to actually read the guide given that you're asking something like that ^_^ I read them all, and all it looks like is a compilation of other guides into one guide, and they are all just guides on how to do all ins. Now may I ask what league are you and are these guides meant for a certain level of players? | ||
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SatedSC2
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TelecoM
United States10708 Posts
I'd like to play you so we can see how these work in action, you game? - -; | ||
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Teoita
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tar
Germany991 Posts
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TedBurtle
Belarus201 Posts
1)good strat's that i picked for my arsenal, 3-phase all in vs zerg, it's really hurt economic of zerg's that not in masters at least, and they just cant prepare with vipers for final push.. And by the way, if they want to counter attack, i still got many forces to kill theyr push. Great strategy, that i played when i was in silver league (old version, that finishes on immortal push) and it helped me get to gold and learn to multitask,micro vs zerg...This one, carried me to the high diamond now. 2)Agressive macro opening in PvP, is interesting, it worked, it can be mastered to perfection, and be used, but i still prefer standart BO. 3)Hyper4Gate. Works well, but it's stick to the timings of everything, little mistake ruin this push potential, misstiming of attack and else is hurts too much. Not using it now, but it helped me to learn (when i was silver) importance of seconds in sc2..of every second. 4)PvT: 1 Gate FE Into 5 Gate All-In... After scouting that you wont face fast/or too many mines, can work (as you said in guide). i prefer to get a plan, and stick to it without too much swings, and this strategy is really about swings, gas before rax? ~75% our strategy will fail, so i won't do it, but maybe add this if i play weird game, by defeating proxy rax, and terran escapes and trying to continue 5)PvZ 15Nexus GATE GATE GATE...yeah maybe on dreampool. not now  6)PvP proxy oracle into voidray allin... Preety nice transition. works. Love it..still playing standart (i prefer blink) 7)PvT- Dark Templars ... still, this is your old BO, that i played in silver (it was on summer)..helped me to get to gold..then i played standart robo macro vs T...Now i enjoying this refined BO again with my multitasking skills increased. So overall..Thanks for builds!! Nice to see people like you! | ||
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Dredrick
United States32 Posts
I'm particularly fond of your PvZ Double Robo attack. I have another PvZ opening that's very aggressive, and I've been trying to find a good follow-up to it for a while. Going to put the two builds together and see how they mash up. I'll come back with some replays in a few days if I like how it goes. On January 02 2015 09:38 GGzerG wrote: I read them all, and all it looks like is a compilation of other guides into one guide, and they are all just guides on how to do all ins. Now may I ask what league are you and are these guides meant for a certain level of players? Well apparently you failed to read the Introduction, or watch a single replay because doing either of those would have answered your question without you trying to flex your muscles at people. Not very impressive. | ||
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SatedSC2
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AkashSky
United States257 Posts
Do you have anything similar to the 4-2-2 against terran? I like the multi stage aggression and the benchmarks it has that helps me macro better overall. win ratio image + Show Spoiler + | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
thanks for getting my PvZ over 30%, the last BO looks so fucking powerful, I wouldn't know how to handle it as Zerg 0_0.... Got 3 questions: a. What is your mutalisk defense of choice? Double SG? Blink? Getting a third and macroing out? b. Zerg ideally wants a Spire or Vipers. Is scouting when the immortals move out a good timing? You should see the 2nd robo, the bay or the low Gate count. How hard is it to defend a Roach Ling basetrade with burrow and hidden Drones? because that, to me, seems like the strongest/most reliable "OH SHIT I wasnt prepared" response. c. Could you provide timing benchmarks to hit in practice? Any pro gamers being this cheesy :p? This sounds like the things sOs would do  Anyways, fuck you and thank you for this guide Mixed feelings much #justrandomplayerthings | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On January 20 2015 18:30 SatedSC2 wrote: I'm glad it's working for you! Unfortunately, I don't have anything like the 4-2-2 that can be used against Terran. My idea behind my 4-2-2 is based on NonY's triple-recall strategy, without that foundation I wouldn't have been able to come up with this build, and I've never seen anyone using a Recall-heavy pressure strategy vs. Terran... 2 base colossus all ins after Blink are really popular. Theres even a 3 base all in (see Dear v MKC from the Samsung v MVP proleague match yesterday) | ||
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MidnightZL
Sweden203 Posts
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SatedSC2
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TelecoM
United States10708 Posts
On January 20 2015 22:35 MidnightZL wrote: If it works, it's not stupid, it is only smart. That's what this game is all about, being smarter than your opponent. Enough said. Yea that is a really intelligent way to look at balancing a game as well. | ||
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PoulsenB
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