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PinheadXXXXXX
Profile Joined February 2012
United States897 Posts
May 13 2015 01:39 GMT
#81
On May 13 2015 06:27 SBGamer wrote:
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On May 13 2015 06:09 NotTrulyEvil wrote:
Do you think the version where you delay your 8th rax in favor of a second factory (tech-labed, building blue flame and thors later on) is better? And if so is it worth building any thors to the 13:00-13:30 push?

Feels like the 200/200 will be quite much stronger but not sure if it's worth it :S


I do not think there is any version with delaying 8th rax for 2nd factory. There is a version where you get a fast 2nd factory after the 1st factory with techlab for blueflame (Bomber vs Revival) and you will have lots of hellions for gaining map control and getting damage done, but this will have delayed upgrades and less bio at 13:30.

Also, getting such early 2nd factory will make you gas starved, delaying everything which costs gas (later medevacs, 2/2, marauders). I think the only time where you get your second factory would be after the 13:30 timing. Thors are worth building later on, but before the timing, it is just killing your gas, ESPECIALLY with blueflame. I would rather stick to this version without a second/third factory before 13:30.

What I find often works is to throw bio/hellbat at zerg and then once you have an advantage (you kill a base but zerg still has an army, you kill all the creep, you are trading very cost-efficiently), consolidate it with a fourth and an extra factory or two to transition into a composition with more long-term sustainability. This is especially good if you are prone to overextending with an advantage and losing the game.
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liduof
Profile Joined January 2013
40 Posts
May 13 2015 18:25 GMT
#82
On May 13 2015 06:09 NotTrulyEvil wrote:
Do you think the version where you delay your 8th rax in favor of a second factory (tech-labed, building blue flame and thors later on) is better? And if so is it worth building any thors to the 13:00-13:30 push?

Feels like the 200/200 will be quite much stronger but not sure if it's worth it :S


I'd say it is possible. After all we are not bomber himself. We do not execute his build as precise as he did. So if we accidentally delayed +2 / rax / starport, built extra scv or paused medivac production, there will be extra gas for us to make thor or blue flame. Try it and tell us how did it work out
liduof
Profile Joined January 2013
40 Posts
May 13 2015 18:28 GMT
#83
On May 13 2015 10:39 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 06:27 SBGamer wrote:
On May 13 2015 06:09 NotTrulyEvil wrote:
Do you think the version where you delay your 8th rax in favor of a second factory (tech-labed, building blue flame and thors later on) is better? And if so is it worth building any thors to the 13:00-13:30 push?

Feels like the 200/200 will be quite much stronger but not sure if it's worth it :S


I do not think there is any version with delaying 8th rax for 2nd factory. There is a version where you get a fast 2nd factory after the 1st factory with techlab for blueflame (Bomber vs Revival) and you will have lots of hellions for gaining map control and getting damage done, but this will have delayed upgrades and less bio at 13:30.

Also, getting such early 2nd factory will make you gas starved, delaying everything which costs gas (later medevacs, 2/2, marauders). I think the only time where you get your second factory would be after the 13:30 timing. Thors are worth building later on, but before the timing, it is just killing your gas, ESPECIALLY with blueflame. I would rather stick to this version without a second/third factory before 13:30.

What I find often works is to throw bio/hellbat at zerg and then once you have an advantage (you kill a base but zerg still has an army, you kill all the creep, you are trading very cost-efficiently), consolidate it with a fourth and an extra factory or two to transition into a composition with more long-term sustainability. This is especially good if you are prone to overextending with an advantage and losing the game.


In this situation when zerg cannot keep up with my production, I'd throw down 4 more rax and keep marines streaming to his death.
Tzam
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden9 Posts
May 14 2015 12:56 GMT
#84
Hey. thanks for the writeup. Would really like to look at your replays, but can't really make out the site you have them on. Any way you coult put them up on ggtracker?
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liduof
Profile Joined January 2013
40 Posts
May 22 2015 02:35 GMT
#85
On May 14 2015 21:56 Tzam wrote:
Hey. thanks for the writeup. Would really like to look at your replays, but can't really make out the site you have them on. Any way you coult put them up on ggtracker?


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