[G]TvZ Bomber Rax 3CC 13:30 200 Supply +2/+2 - Page 3

On December 30 2014 05:10 Gamegene wrote:
some pretty eloquent explanations on the nature of various TvZ scenarios

excellent guide i hope you can continue share more knowledge.

your english is more than great too!

On December 29 2014 23:43 SBGamer wrote:
This strat is awesome. Even though i still suck against early speedlings and roach/hydra max outs, and my macro is still bad for this thing (130-140 supply at 13 min? meh.), i have good success with it. Thanks man

On December 30 2014 04:16 Milantes wrote:


This is actually one of the very best builds to play against roach hydra as it gives you the ability to easily flood with bio ( marauder heavy ) + hellbats.

On January 05 2015 22:29 liduof wrote:


this build crash zerg ranged for 3 reasons.
first, in the first 10min, you are building bio to 100, which are better against roach than reaper hellion.
and your 5 barracks finish sooner than reaper hellion build. the above will enable you defend first wave of roach more than

second, your ebay starts at 7:00, there's no upgrade timing for zerg at all.

third, if zerg commit too much roach b4 11min, your 4 medivac will be such a pain in the ass, he have to choose between replenishing roach to defend your multi tasking medivacs before hydra, or drone and get a 4th for macro game at the same time.

when you play this right, you will be more than happy to see any roach on the map, cauz 10 roach are too ez to deal with than 10 banelings and 10 lings which cost the same amt of resources.

On January 06 2015 02:01 SBGamer wrote:


Thanks man! Good luck at WCS!

On January 09 2015 01:06 Bojas wrote:
Thanks for this amazingly detailed guide, it does all the thinking required for me :D. The build doesn't seem much harder than other more conventional builds, as very little multitasking is required.

However I'm a bit confused about Avast finding malware from that site where you uploaded replays. I couldn't read or understand anything and just downloaded the replays.
+ Show Spoiler +

Maybe it's better to upload them elsewhere?

On January 09 2015 08:32 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
http://drop.sc/391822

This is a replay of a game I played using this build vs roach hydra. I made a lot of dumb mistakes, like misplacing my first cc, and I tried to be too fancy with the overlord snipe, making my macro fall apart. This was one of the worst games I have ever played using this build.

That being said, when the zerg attacked me, we had equal army supply, but I just lost horribly, then lost my 3rd cc, and from there I would have lost the game if the zerg had spent his 2000 minerals, or even just paid attention to his upgrades, while I was spending all my money at that point. I don't understand why I lost that first fight vs roach hydra. Was it bad positioning, or just a case of having too few units?

On January 09 2015 08:32 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
http://drop.sc/391822

This is a replay of a game I played using this build vs roach hydra. I made a lot of dumb mistakes, like misplacing my first cc, and I tried to be too fancy with the overlord snipe, making my macro fall apart. This was one of the worst games I have ever played using this build.

That being said, when the zerg attacked me, we had equal army supply, but I just lost horribly, then lost my 3rd cc, and from there I would have lost the game if the zerg had spent his 2000 minerals, or even just paid attention to his upgrades, while I was spending all my money at that point. I don't understand why I lost that first fight vs roach hydra. Was it bad positioning, or just a case of having too few units?

On January 10 2015 01:03 Bojas wrote:
I want to thank you again for this amazing build. It's such fun to see the zerg spreading creep thinking "LOL that terran is way too passive" and then shove a big ass army in his face. :D

Also, MKP did a similar build today on GSL right? only slightly greedier

On January 10 2015 13:22 Taefox wrote:
what is F2A? please don't use those word it's not popular
overall it's a great build and guide Big thanks

On January 10 2015 19:17 Bojas wrote:


F2 button is the default button that select your whole army.

A means attack move.

He means that in certain situations your macro advantage is big enough that you can select your whole army and attack move and win. This works even in higher leagues.


Edit: I don't think I've ever had as much fun with a build, didn't lose with it yet while my execution is still very sub optimal. You just have soo much stuff :D. Might just leave diamond league behind for the first time after 4 years of being diamond.

On January 10 2015 03:08 liduof wrote:


as long as you put down gas and 2nd barracks on time, you can open with CC first into 3CC.

On January 11 2015 16:08 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:

If you watched Snute's practice games against uThermal a couple weeks ago (from uThermal's perspective) you can see CC first into gasless 3CC into pure bio style. The build is very close to the same--it has early 2nd rax before factory, 2 hellions, 2 widow mines, a 10 minute drop, and all infrastructure added before 10 minutes. I've also adapted it myself by doing a build identical to Bomber's after the gas comes down (rax fact ebay ebay starport) but skipping the widow mines because the factory is slightly later.

On January 12 2015 07:21 liduof wrote:


dude that 2 widow mines is all you can count on to defend all-in
for whatever reason if you did not finish them b4 8 min mark, place starport next to factory, switch after starport finish.