EPT[G] Zest's 4 immortal / archon timing attack [PvT] - Page 2
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Goedebuur
Netherlands3 Posts
Any chance you got something nice in store for PvP? | ||
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Gene(S)is
Sweden419 Posts
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JayPower
Netherlands171 Posts
The build looks interesting. Oz played very greedy though and got 7 workers killed by 2 hellions, which in my opinion shouldn't have happend. Other than that, k0p seems to be moving out at 12:00, this is when you can already have 4 immortals. So if you recognize the build you can make even more if needed. As far as breaking the terran, I think it's possible, but I'm not 100% sure. If you can drop 2 immortal behind (or to the side of) his army to prevent your whole army from going through 1 choke, then yes + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/M2znalf.jpg) On May 23 2013 22:27 Kinon wrote: So many great Protoss guides lately. It will take a while to go through every single one of them. Do you plan on making a guide for standard macro PvT? I saw Artosis use that a lot, and seems pretty bullet-proof, yet hard to get it right. I'm not sure what kind of PvT guide I'll do next. I don't find standard macro build very interesting because a lot of other people make those already. I prefer bringing new stuff to the table. On May 24 2013 16:29 Goedebuur wrote: Thanks a lot for the guides JayPower, this really helps to diversify my play. Any chance you got something nice in store for PvP? No problem! Sadly I'm not working on anything for PvP. It's very hard to find/make a all-round protoss build that doesn't auto-lose to a certain build. | ||
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JayPower
Netherlands171 Posts
Stats went for a slightly different opener. He got a quick second gas before expand and got a quicker robo with that, also some more sentries in the early game. He adds a 2nd gateway a bit faster but besides that the build is pretty much the same. Fantasy went for some very agressive play with widowmine and hellbat drops into a 3rd base. But he wasn't able to hold the timing attack. | ||
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Protossking
Australia103 Posts
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woreyour
582 Posts
As usual very nice guide! Can you complete this by adding a PvP one? :D | ||
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JayPower
Netherlands171 Posts
On May 30 2013 19:35 woreyour wrote: well another addition to the toss all in arsenal. As usual very nice guide! Can you complete this by adding a PvP one? :D I'm glad you like the guide. Next up on my list is another PvZ guide and after a PvP guide. Both will be released somewhere next week. | ||
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woreyour
582 Posts
On May 31 2013 01:48 JayPower wrote: I'm glad you like the guide. Next up on my list is another PvZ guide and after a PvP guide. Both will be released somewhere next week. I am really a great fan of your guides since I have the 1st hand results, you cannot deny the wins i had having read these. :D I was checking on State's PvP to complete my current arsenal of builds but I guess I have to wait for your PvP one. Good job! Keep it up! I like the linkage of 2 the guides as well! | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
If you don't mind, please add something in the OP about defending a terran countering with drops while you push, and i'll add this to the recommended threads  | ||
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Pytson
Poland3 Posts
. This build is very good for learning map awarness - against medvac drops. In these league when terran playing bio the only thing you have to do is denying these drops since ~8:00-11:30 (still don't know medivac timings).For me this is solid build to learning PvT. | ||
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Aeis
Canada9 Posts
I think it's worth noting that in the first game you linked with KT in it, he uses hallucinations to trick the Terran into thinking that he is going down that tech path. No anti-archon units were on the field, and there were 4 useless Vikings. Although the Terran had been scouting the whole game, he was out of position when KT's army hit, and lacked the appropriate units to deal with the attack. KT hid the attack well, and I think that's a major part of this build. Also On June 04 2013 07:56 Teoita wrote: Holy shit been playing around with this build quite a bit and it's sick. If you don't mind, please add something in the OP about defending a terran countering with drops while you push, and i'll add this to the recommended threads Probably leave your MSC at home to overcharge any incoming drops, as well as warp in chargelots while you're attacking the front. | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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targ
Malaysia445 Posts
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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Jaded.
United States125 Posts
On May 23 2013 04:13 DemigodcelpH wrote: Jay if the Terran is doing k0p's 2 base 4 factory 13:00 timing push would Terran hold this? It's important to note that k0p did this on the OLD fighting spirit which has 1 rich gas geyser, this makes his push a lot faster. We don't know if this kind of push is even possible on a regular map. | ||
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JayPower
Netherlands171 Posts
http://drop.sc/packs/1466 | ||
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entarotassadr
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(Sorry for my bad english) | ||
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tomahawk077
20 Posts
I am a terran mid master player and I've just lost against this build. Is there any tips to counter this timing attack? Somebody talked about the units you should build in order to win or at least survive to it. What are they? Thx for your replies! | ||
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krutopatkin
Germany2612 Posts
On July 12 2013 04:38 tomahawk077 wrote: Hi everybody! I am a terran mid master player and I've just lost against this build. Is there any tips to counter this timing attack? Somebody talked about the units you should build in order to win or at least survive to it. What are they? Thx for your replies! I think it might help if you add a replay of your loss. | ||
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