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[G] First Overview of HotS Zerg - Page 8

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Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
March 18 2013 23:01 GMT
#141
Pretty damn solid guide.
I agree with the view on BLs not being that good now which is also exactly a great spot I like for them to be in funwise, they should be a unit used to break a stall when the zerg is ahead ie, something the swarm host was intended to be. They function quite well still at that now but are not really part of the end-all composition zerg is aiming for.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
March 18 2013 23:02 GMT
#142
On March 14 2013 03:42 TheEmulator wrote:
While editing this my knowledge of Zerg went from I suck to DRG.

^truly inspiring
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
GreenSC
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada1 Post
March 18 2013 23:24 GMT
#143
Thank you so much Blade, your work here is greatly appreciated
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
March 18 2013 23:27 GMT
#144
nooooooooo wheres the terran guide =(
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
RayBeans
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany331 Posts
March 18 2013 23:27 GMT
#145
Thanks for this, great write up
eSports with friends & HSV esports e.V. - Hamburg!
reikai
Profile Joined January 2011
United States359 Posts
March 18 2013 23:30 GMT
#146
On March 14 2013 05:52 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 05:49 Advantageous wrote:
Where is protoss? why all zerg?


Because we zergs like to write guides and help our fellow zergs out. Protosses aren't as nice, neither are terrans :D


This is so true. I don't think I've ever met more than 5 nice terran players :[

Still! I want to see a Terran guide at some point :>
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce. :T:
Fearest
Profile Joined September 2011
854 Posts
March 18 2013 23:58 GMT
#147
On March 19 2013 08:30 reikai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 05:52 blade55555 wrote:
On March 14 2013 05:49 Advantageous wrote:
Where is protoss? why all zerg?


Because we zergs like to write guides and help our fellow zergs out. Protosses aren't as nice, neither are terrans :D


This is so true. I don't think I've ever met more than 5 nice terran players :[

Still! I want to see a Terran guide at some point :>


It's hard to be nice on ladder when the other player is trying to kill you
ZzKaelzZ
Profile Joined October 2012
51 Posts
March 19 2013 01:20 GMT
#148
Thanks blade!! much appreciated!
Idra <3 Leenock <3 DRG <3 Symbol <3 JYP <3 Life <3 HuK <3
sdnnvs
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil33 Posts
March 19 2013 02:04 GMT
#149
Good guide. But not fully agree with the usefulness of Swarm Host. No pro won any match using this unit. Expensive, slow, easy to detect. Who won with SH, was already winning by other means.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 19 2013 02:11 GMT
#150
On March 19 2013 11:04 sdnnvs wrote:
Good guide. But not fully agree with the usefulness of Swarm Host. No pro won any match using this unit. Expensive, slow, easy to detect. Who won with SH, was already winning by other means.


Guess you didn't watch leenock? :o. He won with swarmhosts vs some foreign toss. You'll see most zergs used them badly honestly
When I think of something else, something will go here
MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
March 19 2013 03:15 GMT
#151
On March 19 2013 11:11 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 11:04 sdnnvs wrote:
Good guide. But not fully agree with the usefulness of Swarm Host. No pro won any match using this unit. Expensive, slow, easy to detect. Who won with SH, was already winning by other means.


Guess you didn't watch leenock? :o. He won with swarmhosts vs some foreign toss. You'll see most zergs used them badly honestly

i was about to say the same thing, they are really good vs protoss.
Just wait and see.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
March 19 2013 03:21 GMT
#152
Well done Blade. Quality stuff as always. You going to post more YouTube vids? Last ones were really good as well.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 19 2013 03:46 GMT
#153
On March 19 2013 12:21 BoZiffer wrote:
Well done Blade. Quality stuff as always. You going to post more YouTube vids? Last ones were really good as well.


Yeah new ones coming this week :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
Torrathyr
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada95 Posts
March 19 2013 04:37 GMT
#154
On March 14 2013 05:52 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 05:49 Advantageous wrote:
Where is protoss? why all zerg?


Because we zergs like to write guides and help our fellow zergs out. Protosses aren't as nice, neither are terrans :D

Terran guide: "Really? Did you watch any of the games at MLG?"
Protoss guide: "Do what MC is doing in PvT and PvP and do what PartinG has always been doing in PvZ"

This Zerg guide is required because up to this point, the only strategy I could think of to deal with Terrans or Protoss was to play as good as life =|

Also, amazing guide, I'm bookmarking it and referring back to it whenever I can
Talent < Skill < Practice < Dedication
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
March 19 2013 05:16 GMT
#155
On March 19 2013 13:37 Torrathyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 05:52 blade55555 wrote:
On March 14 2013 05:49 Advantageous wrote:
Where is protoss? why all zerg?


Because we zergs like to write guides and help our fellow zergs out. Protosses aren't as nice, neither are terrans :D

Terran guide: "Really? Did you watch any of the games at MLG?"
Protoss guide: "Do what MC is doing in PvT and PvP and do what PartinG has always been doing in PvZ"

This Zerg guide is required because up to this point, the only strategy I could think of to deal with Terrans or Protoss was to play as good as life =|

Also, amazing guide, I'm bookmarking it and referring back to it whenever I can


Not everyone has the time to watch MLG. Why hasnt team liquid posted any terran guides vs all races?...
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
March 19 2013 05:17 GMT
#156
All i have been doing is just using the same exact units from WOL and i hardly use any HOTS units. cuz the build orders from WOL are all i know.
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 05:23:26
March 19 2013 05:21 GMT
#157
On March 19 2013 14:17 Riner1212 wrote:
All i have been doing is just using the same exact units from WOL and i hardly use any HOTS units. cuz the build orders from WOL are all i know.


Hard to improve or learn new build orders if you refuse to practice it xD

On March 19 2013 14:16 Riner1212 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 13:37 Torrathyr wrote:
On March 14 2013 05:52 blade55555 wrote:
On March 14 2013 05:49 Advantageous wrote:
Where is protoss? why all zerg?


Because we zergs like to write guides and help our fellow zergs out. Protosses aren't as nice, neither are terrans :D

Terran guide: "Really? Did you watch any of the games at MLG?"
Protoss guide: "Do what MC is doing in PvT and PvP and do what PartinG has always been doing in PvZ"

This Zerg guide is required because up to this point, the only strategy I could think of to deal with Terrans or Protoss was to play as good as life =|

Also, amazing guide, I'm bookmarking it and referring back to it whenever I can


Not everyone has the time to watch MLG. Why hasnt team liquid posted any terran guides vs all races?...


Because there are no terrans who want to write guides.

I just want this to be known that I wasn't forced to write this, hell I wasn't even asked to I wrote it myself got help from TL members for editing/formatting because this place is badass and then this was created. This wasn't forced upon anyone, nobody who did this was forced to work on this zerg guide, I wrote it, I got help for editing/formatting and then I released it. .
When I think of something else, something will go here
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
March 19 2013 05:23 GMT
#158
Ok, so I really hate to use times because people do some crazy shit and even when it's a standard opening, I'm just really bad at remembering times. What triggers do you use when you're not using straight times to put down your buildings? For example, I had a game where a guy just made a random ass batch of lings and made a third queen to deny scouting, so i was dumping gas and minerals into dealing with this harassment, and now my lair and 2/3 gas timings are all screwed up because I couldn't really get them at the time specified and be ok versus the harass, then I didn't know when the right time to get gas was, and it was all a big mess.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
March 19 2013 05:26 GMT
#159
On March 19 2013 14:21 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 14:17 Riner1212 wrote:
All i have been doing is just using the same exact units from WOL and i hardly use any HOTS units. cuz the build orders from WOL are all i know.


Hard to improve or learn new build orders if you refuse to practice it xD

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 14:16 Riner1212 wrote:
On March 19 2013 13:37 Torrathyr wrote:
On March 14 2013 05:52 blade55555 wrote:
On March 14 2013 05:49 Advantageous wrote:
Where is protoss? why all zerg?


Because we zergs like to write guides and help our fellow zergs out. Protosses aren't as nice, neither are terrans :D

Terran guide: "Really? Did you watch any of the games at MLG?"
Protoss guide: "Do what MC is doing in PvT and PvP and do what PartinG has always been doing in PvZ"

This Zerg guide is required because up to this point, the only strategy I could think of to deal with Terrans or Protoss was to play as good as life =|

Also, amazing guide, I'm bookmarking it and referring back to it whenever I can


Not everyone has the time to watch MLG. Why hasnt team liquid posted any terran guides vs all races?...


Because there are no terrans who want to write guides.

I just want this to be known that I wasn't forced to write this, hell I wasn't even asked to I wrote it myself got help from TL members for editing/formatting because this place is badass and then this was created. This wasn't forced upon anyone, nobody who did this was forced to work on this zerg guide, I wrote it, I got help for editing/formatting and then I released it. .


So in a nutshell, as a terran player basically i have to analyze your guide and work my way back from it, to see which options will help me win the game vs zerg.
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
asaed
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1412 Posts
March 19 2013 05:29 GMT
#160
AMAZING write up!!!
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