[D] SC2 History of TvZ - Page 5

On December 23 2012 10:35 kollin wrote:

No, it was pretty clearly satire. I play Terran and have some pretty strong opinions on late game TvZ but I can still see the manner which he wrote it was making fun of people who use the term 'patch zergs'. Hell, he named the headers after the Star Wars movies.

On December 25 2012 00:04 Micket wrote:
What about the Slayers' Blue flame hellion massacre of MLG Anaheim 2011?

On December 22 2012 13:51 Escuche wrote:
For some reason, people always credit Stephano for the ling infestor upgrade style. The first person I saw rely on that heavily every game was Destiny, long before Stephano did it, back in 2011. And even before that, Terrans used to upgrade marines while Zerg players ignored upgrades.

On December 22 2012 12:28 Chronos. wrote:
Thanks for the writeup, it's really cool. I think a useful thing if you have the time would be to link 1 standard game from each of these periods, or a game where this tactic was first employed for example. I love TvZ so much, it's so dynamic and has shifted so much since launch. Can't wait to see how the matchup will unfold when HotS is released!!!

By the way, you might have to put in another entry to this histroy soon:

12. Stephano's New Metagame Part 2. Roach Hydra

On December 25 2012 08:46 RaXCitY wrote:
These reads are proving that Terrans as a whole are more intellectual and responsive as players and people. I do not see one counter thread made by a zerg that is well organized saying, if infestors get nerfed we will be screwed, or this is why we NEED fungal to have poison stun and be so cost effective agiasnt its mirror spell, the Hunter seeker missle.

On December 22 2012 11:09 LgNKami wrote:
Im mad that in #9, ForGG got no type of credit for his Hellion Banshee build that everyone stole.

On December 25 2012 08:51 KT(Rolster)HaunteR wrote:


That's quite true Karmi. ForGG created that build overall when he came on the scene.

He went through Code A with 0 games lost.

On December 25 2012 08:53 kollin wrote:

I'm not even sure what you're trying to insinuate with this post :/

On December 25 2012 08:54 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:


I think you misread the post as saying he won 0 games? It's saying forgg lost 0 games in his code A run, so he was a good Terran/worthy of recognition in the TvZ strategy list history.

On December 25 2012 04:36 rembrant wrote:


Yeah I was thinking this too. It was catz and destiny who really pushed infestor use to the limits and innovated a lot of things like using infested terran bombs to harass. They were really the first ones to show how infestors could be used to fight major battles and harass and defend.

On December 25 2012 09:31 Oboeman wrote:
I feel like roach/ling and roach/baneling busts deserve some kind of mention, but I don't know who you'd credit, or when exactly it was. It was before queen buff. The refined build for roach+baneling may have been shown first by DRG or Leenock, but the idea behind it was a bit older.

sometime after 1 marine + 4 hellions + 3OC + double ebay started becoming normal, zergs would mix in roach all-ins to try to keep terrans honest. I have no idea what you're building behind those 4 hellions, if you are cutting corners every game you'll lose if I happen to choose to all-in you.