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fengshaun
Profile Joined April 2012
149 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 05:04:28
May 08 2013 04:55 GMT
#881
On May 08 2013 13:17 dsjoerg wrote:
Show nested quote +

By the way, did they add any extra information about supply?


Yep it's in there!



Awesome! So, how about a chart that maps max supply vs used supply? The intersections will be supply caps and the shaded regions will tell you whether you got supply blocked right before, during, or after a battle! Plus, you can derive "supply efficiency" from that! :D

EDIT: also maybe a feedback button on ggtracker itself that links to uservoice or a feedback form on ggtracker would be nice if you want more feedback!
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
May 08 2013 05:52 GMT
#882
I finally beat my first Masters player, yayayayay! :D

I know it isn't very professional or anything to do this, but I had to get this off my chest lol.
dsjoerg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States384 Posts
May 09 2013 05:57 GMT
#883
On May 08 2013 13:55 fengshaun wrote:
Awesome! So, how about a chart that maps max supply vs used supply? The intersections will be supply caps and the shaded regions will tell you whether you got supply blocked right before, during, or after a battle! Plus, you can derive "supply efficiency" from that! :D

EDIT: also maybe a feedback button on ggtracker itself that links to uservoice or a feedback form on ggtracker would be nice if you want more feedback!


Good ideas thanks! There is a feedback button on most pages, in the lower-right hand corner.
card-carrying grubby fan. developer of GGTracker.
TheKleszcz
Profile Joined August 2012
Poland11 Posts
May 11 2013 11:03 GMT
#884
Hey, I appreciate your work and creativity with creating The Staircase. Concentrating on macro and economy has really helped me to get involved into Starcraft again - and what's more important to put fun into it again. Copying builds felt lifeless to me, it was like copying sounds a Chinese person makes without learning the language itself. Thanks, great work!
Ammoth
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden391 Posts
May 11 2013 20:53 GMT
#885
I'm a little confused about protoss, Gas is unlocked at step 2 but some of the given units requires gas. What is up with that? I feel the MSC would be kinda good to have! Now I know I can do whatever I want but I'm curious about the reasoning
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
May 13 2013 14:59 GMT
#886
Step 1 is minerals only. This is the only restriction for Step 1. You are allowed to do anything you can without gas. That means no MsC or observers for Step 1.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
UnseenAlchemist
Profile Joined March 2013
8 Posts
May 19 2013 22:53 GMT
#887
I'm on step 0, I can't find Creep or Die on the Arcade. I was wondering if anyone else has this issue. I'm on EU.
I have no idea what is going on
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
May 19 2013 22:58 GMT
#888
On May 20 2013 07:53 UnseenAlchemist wrote:
I'm on step 0, I can't find Creep or Die on the Arcade. I was wondering if anyone else has this issue. I'm on EU.

It's not an issue; you can just open up a custom game and play without an AI. Click Return to Game when it brings up the victory screen.

Creep or Die isn't on EU yet. :/
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
May 20 2013 02:38 GMT
#889
Or you could switch to AM server?
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
hezmana
Profile Joined May 2011
4 Posts
May 21 2013 04:30 GMT
#890
Ive played 7 games as zerg against hard/harder AI doing step 1. I havent played sc2 in over a year, and always played toss, but thought this seemed like an interesting experiment. At first I was terrible and got slaughtered, but a-move lings when you hit your injects turns out to be so much stuff I ended up winning. It felt like cheating using extra queens as mineral dumps, but it was really hard to get the right number of macro hatches so I could just build lings. I am enjoying the process so far, thanks for doing this!
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
May 21 2013 05:06 GMT
#891
On May 20 2013 11:38 JaKaTaK wrote:
Or you could switch to AM server?

Some people get way too much lag from EU to NA.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
May 21 2013 14:22 GMT
#892
@Anty
That sucks

@hezmana
glad you're having a good time :D
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Kfish
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Chile282 Posts
May 22 2013 00:54 GMT
#893
Hi, I'm trying this out but I can't find the actual numbers of the benchmarks to compare with my replays and the spreadsheet says coming soon and * for zerg.
rezzan
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden329 Posts
May 22 2013 01:47 GMT
#894
I think the amount of "forever bronze" players will go down to almost zero now.. except the ppl that are inactive of course,

the ppl that are like " im to bad / i get frustrated when i lose so i stop playing for a while" type of players will easily go up in rank.

Ive 2 times already gone up to for example platinum.. and if theres any bronze players here, that wonders if it was hard.. id say no.

the first time , i went bronze>platinum i played for 3hours straight and it took me 13 Total games to get to platinum.

and last time (2 days ago) it took me 12 games from silver>platinum, so its super easy.. ive met alot of platinum players that play and act like bronze players, so its not hard at all anymore, it was hard in hots, took long sometimes. But i dont think ill see a bronze league player with 5000 games and still in bronze ever again.

(Sorry if this made no sense, its 4am and im tired so my english sucks lol)
Sponsored by Play3r.net and eurodomination.net www.twitch.tv/tacowtf
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
May 22 2013 15:10 GMT
#895
@Kfish
Use Spending Skill and Hard Supply Blocks for now. We recently learned that other things aren't so important.

http://ggtracker.com/injects
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 15:13:12
May 22 2013 15:12 GMT
#896
On May 22 2013 10:47 rezzan wrote:
I think the amount of "forever bronze" players will go down to almost zero now.. except the ppl that are inactive of course,

the ppl that are like " im to bad / i get frustrated when i lose so i stop playing for a while" type of players will easily go up in rank.

Ive 2 times already gone up to for example platinum.. and if theres any bronze players here, that wonders if it was hard.. id say no.

the first time , i went bronze>platinum i played for 3hours straight and it took me 13 Total games to get to platinum.

and last time (2 days ago) it took me 12 games from silver>platinum, so its super easy.. ive met alot of platinum players that play and act like bronze players, so its not hard at all anymore, it was hard in hots, took long sometimes. But i dont think ill see a bronze league player with 5000 games and still in bronze ever again.

(Sorry if this made no sense, its 4am and im tired so my english sucks lol)


I have friends who are Bronze with 3000+ games played And my GF can't get to platinum even if she's got a reaaallly good macro (don't know how). (I'm amazed at a gold player with 85% inject, 10seconds max supply block and GM spending skill) but... still in gold. And she plays 6 to 8games a day...
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
May 22 2013 15:19 GMT
#897
going from bronze to plat when you're a platinium player may be easy, going from bronze to plat if you're a bronze player is a completely different story.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
May 22 2013 15:20 GMT
#898
On May 23 2013 00:19 JaKaTaK wrote:
going from bronze to plat when you're a platinium player may be easy, going from bronze to plat if you're a bronze player is a completely different story.


True. I'm plat and got 8games in gold after placement match to get top plat.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
May 22 2013 19:51 GMT
#899
On May 23 2013 00:12 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 10:47 rezzan wrote:
I think the amount of "forever bronze" players will go down to almost zero now.. except the ppl that are inactive of course,

the ppl that are like " im to bad / i get frustrated when i lose so i stop playing for a while" type of players will easily go up in rank.

Ive 2 times already gone up to for example platinum.. and if theres any bronze players here, that wonders if it was hard.. id say no.

the first time , i went bronze>platinum i played for 3hours straight and it took me 13 Total games to get to platinum.

and last time (2 days ago) it took me 12 games from silver>platinum, so its super easy.. ive met alot of platinum players that play and act like bronze players, so its not hard at all anymore, it was hard in hots, took long sometimes. But i dont think ill see a bronze league player with 5000 games and still in bronze ever again.

(Sorry if this made no sense, its 4am and im tired so my english sucks lol)


I have friends who are Bronze with 3000+ games played And my GF can't get to platinum even if she's got a reaaallly good macro (don't know how). (I'm amazed at a gold player with 85% inject, 10seconds max supply block and GM spending skill) but... still in gold. And she plays 6 to 8games a day...

What the actual hell

Does she mass Drones or something?
Kfish
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Chile282 Posts
May 22 2013 21:11 GMT
#900
On May 23 2013 00:10 JaKaTaK wrote:
@Kfish
Use Spending Skill and Hard Supply Blocks for now. We recently learned that other things aren't so important.

http://ggtracker.com/injects



Thank you.
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