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Malauch
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 26 2017 18:59 GMT
#1541
GGtracker is shutting down. Is there any alternative to check Staircase statistics?
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
October 31 2017 15:09 GMT
#1542
Unforunately Spending Skill was a custom metric for TheStaircase built with ggtracker. My attempts to have this added to sc2replaystats.com has failed
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
dchaudh
Profile Joined March 2015
58 Posts
October 31 2017 21:29 GMT
#1543
On November 01 2017 00:09 JaKaTaKSc2 wrote:
Unforunately Spending Skill was a custom metric for TheStaircase built with ggtracker. My attempts to have this added to sc2replaystats.com has failed


Is there a different calculation behind the spending quotient # on sc2replaystats as compared to the SQ on ggtracker? I've been using the sc2replaystats version of SQ as of late but not sure if that's correct now.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
November 03 2017 14:02 GMT
#1544
SQ is not a useful metric because it doesn't take into account the length of the game. All SS is, is SQ in context of game length (capping out at 30 minutes). 100 SQ in a 5 minute game isn't too hard, but in a 25 minute game it's almost impossible.

Fortunately, IMMORTAL will have no need for 3rd party analysis sites because we'll have everything baked into the actual game. A clear path for improvement, deliberate practice maps and drills, and meaningful statistics that show your progress over time.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
fengshaun
Profile Joined April 2012
149 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-06 05:50:38
November 06 2017 05:49 GMT
#1545
Would be nice if either ggtracker.com source was released so someone else could take over maintenance or if calculations were laid out so others could derive the same data from replays directly.

I'm sure sc2replaystats.com is a good way to go, but it looks very convoluted and not fun to use. :S
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
November 06 2017 20:01 GMT
#1546
ggtracker.com has been open source for ages and David has been trying to find someone to take over for equally as long with no luck. If you are the one to save it, let me know!
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
fengshaun
Profile Joined April 2012
149 Posts
November 07 2017 00:25 GMT
#1547
Oh, I see that it's on github. I can't take on more responsibilities, but I hope someone steps up.
Slimper
Profile Joined November 2017
13 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-18 21:17:05
November 18 2017 19:45 GMT
#1548
sc2replaystats.com is the best alternative of the ggtracker. Not only does it have the SQ stats, but it also points out your early game mistakes for free (2 games per day, which is more than enough)! It really is very good, check it out

Scelight replay analyzer is the second thing to look up to when trying to see how well you did
Nebrot
Profile Joined November 2017
1 Post
November 20 2017 08:39 GMT
#1549
Hey,

i am currently working on a user script / browser extension that will show the spendingskill also in sc2replaystats.
I will use the GGTracker data for that (Thanks to David to show me where i can find the data).
I think i will have a first version by next week, will post it here when it´s ready.

The only downside is: The Script will use static data, and will not be updated, it will stay (forever?) on this data:
http://ggtracker.com/spending_skill_stats#?race=zerg&gateway=am

Or has anyone an idea where we can get a huge list of replay data containing:
region of replay :devision of player : duration of the game; race of the player; sq of the player

JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
December 01 2017 17:17 GMT
#1550
Nebrot
That's awesome! You should contact the owner/operator of sc2replaystats and see if you can use the data they have!
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
TurgidLeafMan
Profile Joined September 2016
18 Posts
December 03 2017 08:42 GMT
#1551
Back on The Staircase while I update my muscle memory from Core 3.0 to 4.0

With the imminent closure of GGTracker it would be great to have the spending skill data readily available on Sc2Replaystats since (unless im mistaken) you only get a readout of SQ for your most recently uploaded game and cannot review this change over time or actively compare it against a particular benchmark.

Nebrot you are the hero we need; any update on your extension?

Much Love

TLM
fengshaun
Profile Joined April 2012
149 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-09 09:24:46
December 09 2017 08:26 GMT
#1552
gggreplays.com seems to be missing all the data that made ggtracker.com useful. Hopefully sc2replaystats people will be willing to provide their data for an even more accurate SQ -> SSkill conversion.

Any way to download ggtracker's data in a palatable format like csv?

edit: you can download ggtracker.com's data from the website from the api like so:
http://api.ggtracker.com/api/v1/spending_skill/<region>/<race>
where region can be 'am' or 'eu' without quotes and race is terran zerg or protoss

gggreplays.com should really be using this data instead of starting from scratch.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
December 27 2017 15:38 GMT
#1553
We made a discord server for TheCore and it seems to be working out quite well. Figured it would be good to try one for TheStaircase as well. Enjoy:

https://discord.gg/DbJJVfd
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Leffigi1
Profile Joined July 2020
1 Post
July 04 2020 02:28 GMT
#1554
Bumping a dead thread but what websites could I use now that GGGTRACKER is dead?
SINSTR_SykO
Profile Joined July 2014
1 Post
August 04 2020 05:13 GMT
#1555
In case anyone still interested in this, I created this small site that helps you keep track of your progress a bit more easily: https://kedyn.github.io/TheStaircase/
Comboqueejret
Profile Joined October 2021
2 Posts
October 15 2021 16:11 GMT
#1556
hi guys,

i love this way of playing.

Though, i can't manage to get this second benchmark "Time from 2nd Base Complete to 2 Base Mineral Income (1760)", even when i just focus on fullfill with workers my 2 or 3 bases. Is it a bug? coz i see other players who manage to do it on ggreplays.

any help?

thx
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
December 01 2021 09:13 GMT
#1557
On October 16 2021 01:11 Comboqueejret wrote:
hi guys,

i love this way of playing.

Though, i can't manage to get this second benchmark "Time from 2nd Base Complete to 2 Base Mineral Income (1760)", even when i just focus on fullfill with workers my 2 or 3 bases. Is it a bug? coz i see other players who manage to do it on ggreplays.

any help?

thx


https://gggreplays.com/staircase#?race=zerg&vs_race=zerg
I think the benchmark for that is 20 minerals less at 1740. If the numbers are off, just know it means 16 workers on each bases mineral line.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
adrian_11
Profile Joined December 2021
1 Post
December 14 2021 04:00 GMT
#1558
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Comboqueejret
Profile Joined October 2021
2 Posts
January 09 2022 19:35 GMT
#1559
ggreplay is going down
what else?
KeanuCheese
Profile Joined November 2021
France3 Posts
January 27 2022 22:56 GMT
#1560
im curious about starting the staircase (im a noob) but can't find website that gives spending skill, can i use spending quotient instead ?
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