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fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
February 02 2015 18:05 GMT
#7461
ctrl + shift combinations are designed to be pressed with your thumb only. If you remove the keycaps of the keys bedtween ALT GR and CTRL you may find this easier to do / quicker to locate without glancing down.
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
Sh1bby
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany711 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 18:26:47
February 02 2015 18:26 GMT
#7462
On February 03 2015 03:05 fruity. wrote:
ctrl + shift combinations are designed to be pressed with your thumb only. If you remove the keycaps of the keys bedtween ALT GR and CTRL you may find this easier to do / quicker to locate without glancing down.

I did that, but that is not the problem.

Ok, I tried it again. I obv have to make sure to press ctrl+shift before the "I" key. Still feels difficult under stress situations and I can image it's easy to mess up the CGs. Well, I'll play with it a little more.

Thanks.
"People should not ruminate about the past. Just do your best here and now." [Aya Kito]
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
February 02 2015 19:40 GMT
#7463
@Sh1bby
Its just a matter of muscle memory. When you've been at it for a while it'll be easy. Remember, practice slowly and NOT under stress (against no opponent) and once you're comfortable, slowly increase the level of stress. NEVER consciously increase your speed, focus on accuracy and speed will come subconsciously.
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Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
February 03 2015 01:16 GMT
#7464
are there any core starbow users here? I have decided I wanted to play starbow until lotv came out. I have had problems trying to map somethings because the building in the hotkey layout does not properly open.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
brook8128
Profile Joined August 2013
Korea (South)66 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 03:33:27
February 03 2015 03:32 GMT
#7465
On February 02 2015 19:18 derive wrote:
Show nested quote +
- select queen control group
= bring up inject targeting mode
hold ctrl+shift lock in targeting mode
p left click inject hatch 1
o left click inject hatch 2
i left click inject hatch 3


The problem I add using this is that since there is a "shift", the inject is queued if the queen is doing something else.
So when a queen is attacking drops or phoenix (can be an action given or just auto-attack because the queen was idle when the enemy came close) she won't inject before finishing the current action, resulting in a delayed inject. In most cases, you would want her to go inject immediately regardless of what she is attacking.

Am I missing something or is it expected when using this inject method ?


@JaKaTaKSc2
Can you tell me about that? I have a same problem.
OvO
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
February 03 2015 16:27 GMT
#7466
Concerning Using Shift When Injecting

When a queen is attacking and you want it to inject right away, don't use shift. Its good to be flexible with your inject and react to the current game state. The non shift inject looks like this:

- select queen control group
ctrl shift p jump to base 1
i left click inject
ctrl shift o jump to base 2
i left click inject
ctrl shift i jump to base 3
i left click inject

Personally I always inject this way because I value consistency over speed. When weighing the pros/cons you're basically looking at consistency vs speed. (I assume if you're a user of TheCore you give 0 fucking about how long something takes to learn and just want the best).

My personal hotkey philosophy is to make the time sensitive things fast, and the non-time sensitive things consistent (non-reliant on game state). That means I have my 2 main army hotkeys on the home row as they are more time sensitive than macro which is more frequent, but is more about remembering to do it than doing it super fast (for the most part).

Hope that helps

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ginormity
Profile Joined February 2015
2 Posts
February 04 2015 00:07 GMT
#7467
I'm a Terran player, but I like all the races. I play Random on rare occasion. When my Zerg 2v2 partner crashes, I have to take over his base. Also, I'm think of splitting my time Terran/Protoss - 80/20 too.

Is it worth it to learn the Random layout, or should I go with the Terran layout? How inefficient is it to play Protoss/Zerg on the Terran layout? Any worse than the stock hotkey switch?
brook8128
Profile Joined August 2013
Korea (South)66 Posts
February 04 2015 02:55 GMT
#7468
Thank you, JaKaTaKSc2.
I will try that way.
OvO
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
February 04 2015 15:17 GMT
#7469
@ginormity
Use the terran layout. It is specifically designed to make off-racing easy.
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ginormity
Profile Joined February 2015
2 Posts
February 04 2015 20:42 GMT
#7470
Thanks @JaKaTaKSc2! I'm excited to move to the core. This makes me feel much better about the time investment.
Marcaunon
Profile Joined May 2011
South Africa8 Posts
February 05 2015 18:40 GMT
#7471
HI guys

I'm starting to learn TheCore as part of re-entering starcraft world, figured this is the easiest way since I can't remember much from before :D

Ok atm I'm using RRM.
What baffles me a bit is why "attack" is on J which should be pressed with my pinky?
I must be missing something big but it seems that attack move is something you would do a lot in sc2?
Then why is this button on my least capable finger?

Does it make sense to just bind J to one of my mouse buttons? (I have some spare ones on my thumb)


varsovie
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada326 Posts
February 05 2015 21:07 GMT
#7472
On February 06 2015 03:40 Marcaunon wrote:
HI guys

I'm starting to learn TheCore as part of re-entering starcraft world, figured this is the easiest way since I can't remember much from before :D

Ok atm I'm using RRM.
What baffles me a bit is why "attack" is on J which should be pressed with my pinky?
I must be missing something big but it seems that attack move is something you would do a lot in sc2?
Then why is this button on my least capable finger?

Does it make sense to just bind J to one of my mouse buttons? (I have some spare ones on my thumb)



The Core is a very good basis, but you're welcome to make your own changes to it. For example The Core doesn't have any mouse key required because it's assumed some people don't have that option.

Don't be afraid of moving few keys.
michaelhasanalias
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)1231 Posts
February 06 2015 01:29 GMT
#7473
I'm trying to use theCore for Protoss Righty Medium, and the spreadsheet here recommends I use O for my gate/star/robo, but O is not 2nd control group.

Am I using the wrong PRM, or is the sheet outdated? Which control group should I use for gate/star/robo?

Thanks
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varsovie
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada326 Posts
February 06 2015 15:47 GMT
#7474
On February 06 2015 10:29 michaelhasanalias wrote:
I'm trying to use theCore for Protoss Righty Medium, and the spreadsheet here recommends I use O for my gate/star/robo, but O is not 2nd control group.

Am I using the wrong PRM, or is the sheet outdated? Which control group should I use for gate/star/robo?

Thanks



o/O is 2 and 0 (zero) is 6.
Can you tell use what control group o/O is?

Also watch out, if you use The Core 2, the group no.2 is actually on i/I.
Coldblackice
Profile Joined April 2011
United States49 Posts
February 08 2015 06:11 GMT
#7475
On February 05 2015 00:17 JaKaTaKSc2 wrote:
@ginormity
Use the terran layout. It is specifically designed to make off-racing easy.


When would the random profile be preferable to use? And how would it be better than just using Terran for all three races?
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
February 08 2015 18:05 GMT
#7476
Random makes compromises for all races to get the best possible layout overall. It is only preferable if you play all 3 races equally, or have a tendency to change a lot.
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Guidji
Profile Joined March 2011
France20 Posts
February 09 2015 00:58 GMT
#7477
Hi, I have been user the core for more than a year and am delighted with it !
I am currently switching to thecore 2.0, playing RRM.
Is there any reason chronoboost is on M instead of P (like the mule for terran) ?
I think I will correct that for me.
Great work guys, you are awesome !
Coldblackice
Profile Joined April 2011
United States49 Posts
February 09 2015 01:16 GMT
#7478
On February 09 2015 03:05 JaKaTaKSc2 wrote:
Random makes compromises for all races to get the best possible layout overall. It is only preferable if you play all 3 races equally, or have a tendency to change a lot.


Thanks. Out of curiosity, what do you personally use?
Coldblackice
Profile Joined April 2011
United States49 Posts
February 09 2015 02:55 GMT
#7479
Does anyone have a list of all Core2.0 keys that would be used for each stage of TheStaircase (or at least step #1)?

I think it'd be helpful for any who are learning both at the same time (like myself) to reference a list for each step that basically says "Here are the only keys you'll be using for step-1 of TheStaircase when using TheCore2.0 RRM hotkey profile".
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
February 09 2015 17:32 GMT
#7480
I'm using a prototype for TheCore+ RLM Lot of customization from what will eventually be stock though.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
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